Official Jon Gruden Thread V

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Help me understand something.

How does separating the ad and the academic side of things to be independent of each other help admitting theses kids that are NCAA eligible but haven't been admittable before under cheek????


I think I have read on here that the issue is separating the two and I don't understand how that helps unless cheek gives up his high standard approach to addmittance
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah my dad has had season tickets back to Stokely and he sold popcorn when they played at Alumni Gym before Stokely. My point though is all the unsold tickets to the basketball games makes a statement. It says we still as UT fans will go see a Good product so we haven't quit on the University. We have had a leave from Neyland till a change is made and that is why many are boycotting the football games.
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Best game I've ever been to at TBA was against FL. 9pm tip, I sit in the upper bowl and had to stand the whole time. Amazing atmosphere. That was about 3 or 4 years ago.
 
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GreatWhiteNorth said:
I love the Atomic/Daytona Sunset Orange, and black as well. I've had 4 black Corvettes, lol. Currently have a '75 convertible (maroon) with an LS1/6 speed swap, and my wife drives an '08 convertible, black on tan with a tan top...Ls3 with a 6 speed. Car is a beast.
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very nice! ya...owning 1 is a lifestyle... and an expensive one at that..there's always something to buy or clean...lol
 
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BruinVol said:
Help me understand something.

How does separating the ad and the academic side of things to be independent of each other help admitting theses kids that are NCAA eligible but haven't been admittable before under cheek????


I think I have read on here that the issue is separating the two and I don't understand how that helps unless cheek gives up his high standard approach to addmittance
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Cheek would have no say in who gets hired, and they would probably come to some sort of compromise
on admission standards,just guessing on that part though...I mean you have a 5 star cant miss prospect that would be worth millions of dollars to the university but scores a 20 on his ACT,not admitting him is just bad business and stupid...
 
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vol494 said:
Best game I've ever been to at TBA was against FL. 9pm tip, I sit in the upper bowl and had to stand the whole time. Amazing atmosphere. That was about 3 or 4 years ago.
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Yeah on Super Tuesday or whatever ESPN calls it. My point is basketball can make a stamp on AD on athletics overall. I remember the loudest I have ever heard TBA including the first time bernard King came back was an eruption when Lane Kiffin was here and Eric Berry was introduced during a tv timeout and TBA exploded.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah on Super Tuesday or whatever ESPN calls it. My point is basketball can make a stamp on AD on athletics overall. I remember the loudest I have ever heard TBA including the first time bernard King came back was an eruption when Lane Kiffin was here and Eric Berry was introduced during a tv timeout and TBA exploded.
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I was at that game...against UK. Unreal atmosphere.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah on Super Tuesday or whatever ESPN calls it. My point is basketball can make a stamp on AD on athletics overall. I remember the loudest I have ever heard TBA including the first time bernard King came back was an eruption when Lane Kiffin was here and Eric Berry was introduced during a tv timeout and TBA exploded.
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Just think what it'll be like when Gruden is introduced!!!!
 
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triad280 said:
Cheek would have no say in who gets hired, and they would probably come to some sort of compromise
on admission standards,just guessing on that part though...I mean you have a 5 star cant miss prospect that would be worth millions of dollars to the university but scores a 20 on his ACT,not admitting him is just bad business and stupid...
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I agree that is stupid but what does separating the two help with that????

Cheek giving the athletic programs some academic exceptions doesn't require them separating as far as I understand the inter workings of a university.
 
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ACvol3 said:
I know one thing.. If we hire a coach not named Gruden, I'm never ever coming back to this forum.. It will be like the apocalypse..
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Not because of me if so. I will be happy with any big-time PROVEN coach, or up and comer NFL coordinator. Ex: Roman.
 
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triad280 said:
Cheek would have no say in who gets hired, and they would probably come to some sort of compromise
on admission standards,just guessing on that part though...I mean you have a 5 star cant miss prospect that would be worth millions of dollars to the university but scores a 20 on his ACT,not admitting him is just bad business and stupid...
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It may be bad business, but athletes must be admitted as students under the same or similar requirements as normal students. As I understand the problem to be, UT's standards are somewhat more stringent than other SEC universities which gives other schools an inherent competitive advantage.

I think the argument is that we should have the sane standards as everyone else.
 
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Grudnight all. Sam, Goat, have a good show. Looking forward to the 20 pages I'll be behind in the morning. To the "in the know" group, thank you for the long day of damage control. I'm going to sleep or going to get my son his Halo 4, then going to sleep.
 
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Int'lVOLofMystery said:
It may be bad business, but athletes must be admitted as students under the same or similar requirements as normal students. As I understand the problem to be, UT's standards are somewhat more stringent than other SEC universities which gives other schools an inherent competitive advantage.

I think the argument is that we should have the sane standards as everyone else.
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I disagree. If the university wants to upgrade the academic rep then that's great but the athletic programs need to be given a fair number of exceptions. Other universities work just like that
 
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bbeacham said:
Like I have said in an earlier post, we cannot afford to keep Dooley and we cannot afford to get rid of him! As for Gruden, what if we paid Gruden the 5million and he turned out to be another expensive......DUD????
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We have a maybe, weak one at that, of Gruden not being successful or a sure thing of ineptitude and loss of revenue with Dooley.

Gruden or not, the Dooley experiment is an abject failure.
 
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Gruden just stated on MNF, "you don't just show up and put on a headset and become a head coach." Is that a clue he may change his mind?
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree that is stupid but what does separating the two help with that????

Cheek giving the athletic programs some academic exceptions doesn't require them separating as far as I understand the inter workings of a university.
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Lets the AD run the AD autonomously without the chancellor sticking his nose into everything when he has no idea what he's doing...lets Hart hire,fire,write contracts,etc. w/o Cheek's input as far as I'm understanding it... the farther away from the academic side of control the AD can get,the better....Most professors don't think a coach should make 2,3,4,and definitely not 5 or 6 million a year...and could care less if there are any athletics outside of intramural sports...
they definitely don't need any control over the biggest money maker and life line...
 
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