Official Jon Gruden Thread V

[Godfatha]

He is not coming. He was never coming. We are not going to pay a coach 5 million a year. Dooley probably will not be here unless he wins out, if he wins out he will be the coach next year in my opinion but there is still a lot of football to be played. He was never going to be fired in the middle of the season and an official(unofficially I have been told that it was already made)decision will not be made until the season is over meaning if we don't qualify for a bowl it is over. They will not fire him if we go to a bowl game because that would put his dismissal into January. If we don't qualify for a bowl then his fate has been sealed. Either way, you will know after the Kentucky game. Stop with the Cheek and Hart conspiracies, that is all they are.

Thank you. You missed a spot though.

 

[VolMaster14]

That's it. I'm on board. It's a done deal right?

Can't reveal my sources but its close! I'm also hearing Manning has ties to UT.

 

[crackersneck]

Tennessee Football: Why Jon Gruden and the Spread Could Work on Rocky Top
By Barrett Sallee on November 5, 2012
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Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden
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For the last two weeks, the annual rites of fall—better known as "Jon Gruden coaching rumors"—have picked up steam across the country.

Nowhere are they more prevalent than on Rocky Top, where current Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley is 4-5 overall, 0-5 in the SEC and 4-17 within the conference in his three years as head coach of the Vols.


Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Jon Gruden
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That won't cut it, and coupled with Gruden's connections to the Tennessee football program, the Gruden-to-Tennessee rumors have kicked into overdrive.

But Gruden has never been a head coach at the college level, and hasn't coached in college at any capacity since 1991, when he was the wide receivers coach at the University of Pittsburgh.

After being fired by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers following the 2008 season, Gruden visited current Oregon head coach Chip Kelly in an effort to learn more about Kelly's version of the spread offense, according to The Oregonian.

He came away from that meeting with rave reviews of the offense.

When I got fired from football, I wanted to learn about football, and it started with Oregon. I wanted to learn the spread option, and Chip Kelly was nice enough to come down (to Florida) and spend a week with me.

When I got fired, I opened up an office. I called it the FFCA, the fired football coaches of America, and I was really excited about learning some things I didn't know anything about, and one of them was the spread offense. I started with Oregon because I have a lot of respect for what they've done.

So would that offense work in the SEC, and at Tennessee in particular?

It absolutely could, but it needs the right pieces.

Oregon vs. Auburn 2011 BCS National Championship Game highlights
The last two times we've seen Oregon face off against SEC opponents—in the 2011 season-opener vs. LSU and the 2011 BCS National Championship Game vs. Auburn following the 2010 season—the offense was neutralized by the fast and physical SEC defenses.

In those two games the Ducks averaged just 392 yards of total offense and 23 points, 143.25 yards per game and 25.5 points per game fewer than they have averaged over the last two-plus seasons. Auburn and LSU successfully made those games SEC-style slugfests.


Oregon head coach Chip Kelly
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That's exactly why Oregon's system has struggled against the SEC recently, but if Gruden brought it to Tennessee and recruited the same type of SEC players—particularly SEC offensive linemen—the system could work on Rocky Top.

If you want proof, look no further than to College Station, where first-year Texas A&M head coach Kevin Sumlin altered his air-raid system to fit the skills that quarterback Johnny Manziel possesses. While Manziel has grabbed the headlines, the real reason that the Aggies have been so successful is a veteran offensive line led by Luke Joeckel and Jake Matthews.

While A&M's offense does go east and west more than your average SEC offense, running backs Ben Malena and Christine Michael can, and do, play smash mouth football behind the Aggies offensive line.

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Offensive line has been a bright spot for the Vols this year. The Vols have given up the second-fewest sacks (4) of any team in the nation this season and the fourth-fewest tackles for loss (33). Only one starter—left guard Dallas Thomas—from this year's crew is a senior.

That, coupled with a versatile running game that has improved tremendously from a year ago, is a good foundation for any offense. Even the spread.

Plus, can you imagine wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson in the De'Anthony Thomas role? Look out.

The only missing piece would be the quarterback. Granted, that's a big issue, but not one that Gruden can't overcome.

If Gruden does land on Rocky Top—and admittedly, that's a big "if"—don't be surprised to see the Vols look a little bit like Oregon at times. As long as it's not forced, and Gruden is flexible with his system based on personnel, it could work.


I know it's the bleacher report but I thought it was interesting.

 

[volfan4evr]

So if Gruden wears an orange tie tonigt, it means absolutely nothing? Tell me it ain't so!

 

[VolGirlinGA]

So if Gruden wears an orange tie tonigt, it means absolutely nothing? Tell me it ain't so!

I think it means his stylist likes orange.

 

[bcartervol98]

Super Size that please. And add two apple pies for $1.

 

[orangesoda]

If dooley Is coach we are screwed and not paying that 5 million will cost UT. A hell of a lot more than that!!! The program will bottom out!'

 

[volfan4evr]

I think it means his stylist likes orange.

That be Ron Jawarski maybe?

 

[FearlessFreep]

I know it's the bleacher report but I thought it was interesting.

No more credible than if you or I posted the same thing in this thread.

 

[VolMaster14]

So if Gruden wears an orange tie tonigt, it means absolutely nothing? Tell me it ain't so!

Seen Gruden at the airport popping vitemen C pills. What's the most well known fruit for vitemen C? Yep, oranges. He's coming, book it!

 

[justinvolz]

are you a moron Landscape??? UT will likely make a bowl but will drop one of Missouri and Vandy.... he won't be back how can you say a decision has been made then say if he wins out LOL, we are playing crap teams. If the standard is bottom of the SEC then fine. Hopefullyt he standards are better.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Keeping Dooley is the antithesis of trying to be competitive. I just cannot believe that UTK has completely given up on trying to field a competitive football team. It's easier to keep buying into the Gruden rumors.

 

[Wilson27]

Seen Gruden at the airport popping vitemen C pills. What's the most well known fruit for vitemen C? Yep, oranges. He's coming, book it!

I picked a bad day to stop the midget porn

 

[ob79]

Instead of 100 posts to start a thread, I think it should be 1 year...

 

[YankeeVol]

Never!!!!

 

[UTBasketball2]

I've moved on from Gruden. It was fun while it lasted.

 

[tnvols72]

At this point, I'll take change for the sake of change.

Dooley has LITERALLY become a joke.

First the wheelchair pic, then coaching from a stool, then having a stool carrier (*snicker*), then the cane, and now actually breaking the cane.

NOTE: I didn't even mention the defense.

sigh....how can you build a program when your coach has become a punchline??

This is funny as hell, I don't care who you are.

 

[kerry4vols]

That's it. I'm on board. It's a done deal right?

Yeah announcement coming tomorrow

 

[jbeard82]

If anyone thinks Gruden is going to be our coach next year is a moron! And if by slight chance he is then ill be one happy moron!

 

[Sheath Huler]

The only thing that can fix this mess at this point is to separate the AD from the rest of the university like UGA or UF. The AD would be its own separate nonprofit organization or some structure that is totally separate from the university. The AD advisory board would become a board of directors so to speak. The President of the University would ultimately serve as the Executive Director or Board Chair with the AD running things day to day.

This would undo the mess made several years ago when they let Crabtree go but then took his advice and put the AD under the Knoxville Campus (Cheek). It's not as simple as firing Cheek. You can't fire the Chancellor of the university for not hiring the right football coach when that's not what he was hired to do in the first place - that makes the entire university look stupid and creates just as much division within the ranks because more people at the university care about academics more than they do football.

You can fire Cheek all day long, but who replaces him? If you want to get someone worth a darn for the university then they are more than likely going to take the same stance as Cheek. If you hire someone to be Chancellor that is just to cater to the AD, then what message are you sending your faculty and students?

It's a complicated issue and the answer is to separate the AD from the university itself undoing the mistake made a few years ago. Like I said earlier, I want to see UT win championships, but no one with any sense is going to put football over the university as a whole. My two degrees from that place mean a heck of a lot more in my life than wins on the gridiron, even as much as my mood depends on wins. Anyone who takes the opposite approach is in part responsible for the reputation this state has around the country regarding education.

As a current grad student I say PREACH

 

[patrick]

He is not coming. He was never coming. We are not going to pay a coach 5 million a year. Dooley probably will not be here unless he wins out, if he wins out he will be the coach next year in my opinion but there is still a lot of football to be played. He was never going to be fired in the middle of the season and an official(unofficially I have been told that it was already made)decision will not be made until the season is over meaning if we don't qualify for a bowl it is over. They will not fire him if we go to a bowl game because that would put his dismissal into January. If we don't qualify for a bowl then his fate has been sealed. Either way, you will know after the Kentucky game. Stop with the Cheek and Hart conspiracies, that is all they are.

If what you say is accurate which I seriously doubt and the Fooley wins out and is retained for another year then the football program will fall even further into football anonymity and will suffer irreparable harm. Other athletic programs will also feel the crunch because revenue will reach an all-time low!

Fooley is hack who can't coach his way out of paper bag!

 

[VOL6479]

He is not coming. He was never coming. We are not going to pay a coach 5 million a year. Dooley probably will not be here unless he wins out, if he wins out he will be the coach next year in my opinion but there is still a lot of football to be played. He was never going to be fired in the middle of the season and an official(unofficially I have been told that it was already made)decision will not be made until the season is over meaning if we don't qualify for a bowl it is over. They will not fire him if we go to a bowl game because that would put his dismissal into January. If we don't qualify for a bowl then his fate has been sealed. Either way, you will know after the Kentucky game. Stop with the Cheek and Hart conspiracies, that is all they are.

If by some chance he is back the AD stands to lose alot of money next season. Even if its not Gruden it will be a big name hire. If they make a change who do you think will get the job?

 

[VolMaster14]

I picked a bad day to stop the midget porn

You saying midget porn is better than my post? Donkey porn maybe but tiny folk gettin jiggy wit it? :no:

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I don't usually watch MNF, but I may check it out tonight. I'm going to be listening for any Appalachian colloquialisms and watching for any telling facial ticks or hand gestures.

 

[patrick]

Gruden Gruden Gruden...

Bring me another Grudriver!!!!!