Official Jon Gruden thread 32.

[HausVol]

Wow.


Note: I'd be very cautious about believing everything that's
Going to come out over the next couple days. Anyone who had any kind of encounter with his is gonna make him out to be a terrible person no matter what was said

I wish that sh*t would quit coming out until Jones gets a job.

 

[BigPoppa]

note: Just because you were in the band doesent mean you can coach

🤔😃

 

[HausVol]

Note: just because you played football doesent mean you can coach

I do agree with that, but man that dude could play.

 

[Dudleys87]

I wish that sh*t would quit coming out until Jones gets a job.

If and I mean It's a big if it tells me that it could be why Jones didn't get the Purdue job at the end of last season

 

[tnvols72]

Who Mamaw?

yep , he was telling me last week that the HC for knox cath was in a meeting with Butch, Fulmer & Currie and that Currie told Matthews that Butch would be back.

But he did tell me that Gruden would be contacted if Butch was to get fired. He also had some good stories about Gruden when he was a GA

 

[HausVol]

If and I mean It's a big if it tells me that it could be why Jones didn't get the Purdue job at the end of last season

Agreed, that and the fact he's a turd of a coach lol:

 

[Dudleys87]

I do agree with that, but man that dude could play.

Agreed.

Hopefully the numbers are right and we get a ace HC and a bunch of badass assistants

 

[HausVol]

yep , he was telling me last week that the HC for knox cath was in a meeting with Butch, Fulmer & Currie and that Currie told Matthews that Butch would be back.

But he did tell me that Gruden would be contacted if Butch was to get fired. He also had some good stories about Gruden when he was a GA

He would know. Right now he's just trying to figure out how to sell insurance. I bought some from him last year for my mom and it was a blast watching him trying to figure it out, Its a good thing those girls in the office know what there doing.

But to his defense he had just taken the office over

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Me too! I just hope Punch calls to wake me up when the news breaks lol, or they announce after 3:00 pm.

I'm off til Friday so I'll be watching closely.

 

[Dudleys87]

Agreed, that and the fact he's a turd of a coach lol:

Really don't want to put the guy down anymore than we have but you could make an argument that he was in over his head. Homer aside the SEC isn't for everybody no matter the conference you come from, record you had, or assistants you bring with you

 

[HausVol]

I'm off til Friday so I'll be watching closely.

You the man:good!:

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Wow.


Note: I'd be very cautious about believing everything that's
Going to come out over the next couple days. Anyone who had any kind of encounter with his is gonna make him out to be a terrible person no matter what was said

I've seen this a couple of times, Swain being one of them, but judging by the players tweets today he was loved by a lot of them.

 

[tnvols72]

He would know. Right now he's just trying to figure out how to sell insurance. I bought some from him last year for my mom and it was a blast watching him trying to figure it out, Its a good thing those girls in the office know what there doing.

But to his defense he had just taken the office over

lol , he is still trying to figure it out. he had my bill like it was a house payment and I went in there and told him he needs to stay away from computers.

 

[Dudleys87]

I've seen this a couple of times, Swain being one of them, but judging by the players tweets today, he was loved by a lot of them.

I have nothing good to say about Swain after today. He used his platform to publically bash Jones. I get it he's not a saint he did a lot of questionable things here but it doesent help the image of Tennessee if we've got former players going off the deep end.

 

[HausVol]

Really don't want to put the guy down anymore than we have but you could make an argument that he was in over his head. Homer aside the SEC isn't for everybody no matter the conference you come from, record you had, or assistants you bring with you

Here's my opinion on that. I think what success he has had came because he followed Kelly around and the talent was already there and developed. Enter TN where the talent wasn't there and what was there had not been coached up. He just cannot develop players. I think if you switched roles and put Dooley in Jones shoes, there would be very similar career stats.

 

[A_Vol_n_Hog_Country]

Note: just because you played football doesent mean you can coach

Very true...however, Mathews is currently coaching in the NFL and Lott is doing whatever he wants I guess.

 

[Dudleys87]

Here's my opinion on that. I think what success he has had came because he followed Kelly around and the talent was already there and developed. Enter TN where the talent wasn't there and what was there had not been coached up. He just cannot develop players. I think if you switched roles and put Dooley in Jones shoes, there would be very similar career stats.

I agree with that.

If i could go back and combine the talent Dooley and Jones had a great coach wins a lot of games

 

[tnvols72]

Gruden holding steady at +250 on the odds

 

[HausVol]

Gruden holding steady at +250 on the odds

Who did Mamaw think was going to get the job? Or would he say ?

 

[Dudleys87]

Very true...however, Mathews is currently coaching in the NFL and Lott is doing whatever he wants I guess.

We'll be fine either way

 

[White Bread]

I have nothing good to say about Swain after today. He used his platform to publically bash Jones. I get it he's not a saint he did a lot of questionable things here but it doesent help the image of Tennessee if we've got former players going off the deep end.

Swain said what he felt like he needed to say. I respect that. The Helm story was eye opening, the treatment of Antone was horrendous, all the transfers, playing players out of position, etc. While Butch may have done some good things during his time, there’s also a side we don’t get to see. Flame me, but I’m glad people are willing to paint a clearer picture than what we are allowed to see.

 

[Dudleys87]

Gruden holding steady at +250 on the odds

Currie didn't help the Gruden talk die down with his grinch smile today either.

 

[A_Vol_n_Hog_Country]

We'll be fine either way

Haha...I concur, good sir!

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Swain said what he felt like he needed to say. I respect that. The Helm story was eye opening, the treatment of Antone was horrendous, all the transfers, playing players out of position, etc. While Butch may have done some good things during his time, there’s also a side we don’t get to see. Flame me, but I’m glad people are willing to paint a clearer picture than what we are allowed to see.

EDIT: nvm

 

[VolArmy74]

Swain said what he felt like he needed to say. I respect that. The Helm story was eye opening, the treatment of Antone was horrendous, all the transfers, playing players out of position, etc. While Butch may have done some good things during his time, there’s also a side we don’t get to see. Flame me, but I’m glad people are willing to paint a clearer picture than what we are allowed to see.

The Butch defenders will run to the hills and swear they never said a good word about him once all he's done gets out. The stunt he pulled with recruits today should have been enough, but I guess not.