Official Bracketology Thread

Actually I wasn't able to watch that pitiful performance.

I'm a vol fan.

Nobody and I mean nobody worships coaches like you do. There's never been anyone in the history of message board posting go all in on a coach like you did for Martin. Any argument you try and make about me liking an actual good coach falls flat to anyone who witnessed the 30,000 posts you made defending Cuonzo Martin.

Somebody’s mad lulz
 
More false statements from Ziti, say it isn’t so Joe

Tell me again how many top 50 rpi wins Missouri has.....

Was it 2 like you said or was it zero? I can't remember.

Also, did Northwestern make it to the dance at 18-12 (8-10) or did they make the NIT? I can't remember.
 
Tell me again how many top 50 rpi wins Missouri has.....

Was it 2 like you said or was it zero? I can't remember.

Also, did Northwestern make it to the dance at 18-12 (8-10) or did they make the NIT? I can't remember.

So you’re admitting you purposely brought false info to the board?
 
Difference in my mistake is that mine was over a little detail that doesn't really have much bearing on the argument. Stokes is still better than Grant.

Your entire argument was blown to shreds with the bogus crap you brought.

Just can’t admit when you’re wrong can you? It’s ok, we know, you’re right everyone else is wrong.
 
Other pro Williams stat:

Williams while handling the ball more than Stokes did turned it over less.


Literally every stat you can find favors Williams other than rebounding. No idea who anyone can still say Stokes was better.
 
I'm not wrong. 5* PF who was drafted after 2.5 years of college ball is better than Grant Williams.

Crazy take I know.

So exactly how Much better in all categories does Williams have to outperform Stokes to overcome the biased you have because his recruiting ranking was vastly undervalued?
 
So exactly how Much better in all categories does Williams have to outperform Stokes to overcome the biased you have because his recruiting ranking was vastly undervalued?

I've already said he was underrated. The problem is that you guys can't take a simple statement like Stokes was better without assuming that means I think Grant sucks which is why this argument is pointless.

Can't have a legit conversation without it turning into something it's not.
 
I've already said he was underrated. The problem is that you guys can't take a simple statement like Stokes was better without assuming that means I think Grant sucks which is why this argument is pointless.

Can't have a legit conversation without it turning into something it's not.

I don't think you are saying Grant sucks. I just think you are way over valuing stokes recruiting ranking and the fact he was a bad NBA draft. He couldn't cut it because his only game was power and he didn't have enough skill. The numbers prove williams is better and most would say he is better using the eye test as well

Don't confuse my discussion with you with BTOs. Other than coming at you for misinfo on Williams shooting the 3 I think our discussion has been civil
 
I don't think you are saying Grant sucks. I just think you are way over valuing stokes recruiting ranking and the fact he was a bad NBA draft. He couldn't cut it because his only game was power and he didn't have enough skill. The numbers prove williams is better and most would say he is better using the eye test as well

This x 100

Nobody had once said Ziti is saying Grant sucks, he’s looking for a pity party now, good lord.
 
I don't think you are saying Grant sucks. I just think you are way over valuing stokes recruiting ranking and the fact he was a bad NBA draft. He couldn't cut it because his only game was power and he didn't have enough skill. The numbers prove williams is better and most would say he is better using the eye test as well

I'm going off eye test and experience of watching both over time.

If Grant had played 5 years ago and Stokes was playing now you guys would be on the other side of the argument.

Seen similar things happen in football. New guy is always better than the old guy until their both gone and you can compare the two without the bias of hype.
 
I'm going off eye test and experience of watching both over time.

If Grant had played 5 years ago and Stokes was playing now you guys would be on the other side of the argument.

Seen similar things happen in football. New guy is always better than the old guy until their both gone and you can compare the two without the bias of hype.

I agree for most fans. The newest is usually considered the best but For myself I keenly remember the style of player Stokes was. Bull in a China shop that lacked skill.
 
I agree for most fans. The newest is usually considered the best but For myself I keenly remember the style of player Stokes was. Bull in a China shop that lacked skill.

Ok, so you don't like his style? So what? Doesn't mean he wasn't better.
 
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