Official 3/3 GOP debate thread

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snowvols said:
The craziest thing is an economically left wing Democrat that has benefited greatly by shmoozing the establishment is going to win the Republican nomination in large part by claiming to be anti-establishment.
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Mind boggeling that that people are being hood winked.

Insults FTW.
 
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Gramps said:
Yes it is and is not close.

You may not like O's or any other president's policies but there has never been a President act like this group of candidates running for the office. It is a disgrace one of these men, or I should say children, may be POTUS.

I don't care which side of the aisle one is on, the actions of Cruz, Rubio and Trump are an embarrassment to the political process of the United States.
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Have they harmed the country any? barry's policies are a disgrace. Has Trump caused this process to go in the gutter, absolutely but no one on that stage has caused one ounce of damage like the current scumbag has.
 
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Gramps said:
May have. No need for some to act like Trump is the the first man willing to violate the G C.
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Some people called it torture, not everyone. It was a widely accepted practice in many nations as well as being legal in the US before it was stopped from getting so much press.

But make no mistake, using waterboarding as an interrogation technique and actively targeting the families of terrorists are in no way, shape or form the same thing.
 
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Septic said:
Actually, I'd wager they're far more informed on world affairs than you.
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Well he's a true citizen of the world. If we just had a global president position for him, he'd be really great.

Next stop, secretary general of UN.
 
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theFallGuy said:
Well he's a true citizen of the world. If we just had a global president position for him, he'd be really great.

Next stop, secretary general of UN.
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Don't be mad bro, I hear your guy has a big ole' pecker (or at least that's what he says :thumbsup:). Apparently that's a big deal to his base.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Some people called it torture, not everyone. It was a widely accepted practice in many nations as well as being legal in the US before it was stopped from getting so much press.

But make no mistake, using waterboarding as an interrogation technique and actively targeting the families of terrorists are in no way, shape or form the same thing.
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I think there is a difference between "actively targeting the families of terrorists" and holding family members that are complicit in the acts responsible. Everything I have heard from his comments is that he would not show mercy to family members that knew about the attacks getting ready to be carried out. Not sure I agree with Trump's strategy but I can't say it does not have some merit-

“We have to be much tougher, we have to be much stronger than we have been. We have people that know what is going on. You look at the attack in California the other day. Numerous people, including the mother that knew what was going on. They saw a pipe bomb sitting all over the floor. They saw ammunition all over the place. They knew exactly what was going on,” Trump said.

“When you had the World Trade Center go, people were put into planes that were friends, family, girlfriends they were put on planes primarily to Saudi Arabia, and they knew what was going on. They went home and wanted to watch their boyfriends on television,” he added. “I would be very, very firm with families. Frankly, that will make people think because they may not care much about their lives but they do care, believe it or not, about their families lives.”
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Septic said:
Actually, I'd wager they're far more informed on world affairs than you.
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I work for an airline and spend a large portion of my time in Western Europe. The myth that Americans know little about international affairs and the rest of the world is well versed is exactly that, a myth. I have found that neither really knows very much, though lots of Europeans pretend that they do. Most people in a country such as Germany know as much about US politics as an American knows about German. In events like the migrant crisis I meet people all the time that blame the US for the Syrian displacement and "our invasion" of Syria, which of course, we have never invaded. They think we started the Syrian conflict by trying to overthrow Assad, which of course is also not true. The US didn't become involved for over two years. There are many things the rest of the world is quite wrong about, and while I love Europe I don't put much stock into their opinions of the US political system or how they view our politicians.
 
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Septic said:
Actually, most of western europe, the far east including Australia all have favorable views.
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I have friends in Australia and you would be wrong, they think he is a joke.

Something you need to understand is that no one truly has our best interest in mind. Having a favorable opinion of Obama probably indicates they think he's weak.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Have they harmed the country any? barry's policies are a disgrace. Has Trump caused this process to go in the gutter, absolutely but no one on that stage has caused one ounce of damage like the current scumbag has.
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Barry's policies may be a disgrace, some are, some are not. I will state again Obama nor any former president has never acted as bad as the group running for the office. They are an embarrassment. I will also add the acts of the GOP Establishment lately and the moderators at last night's debate were also an embarrassment although Megyn looked extremely sexy as she was trying to destroy Trump.
 
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Gramps said:
Barry's policies may be a disgrace, some are, some are not. I will state again Obama nor any former president has never acted as bad as the group running for the office. They are an embarrassment. I will also add the acts of the GOP Establishment lately and the moderators at last night's debate were also an embarrassment although Megyn looked extremely sexy as she was trying to destroy Trump.
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Agree on all points except Megyn. That short hair is very unbecoming.
 
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hog88 said:
I have friends in Australia and you would be wrong, they think he is a joke.

Something you need to understand is that no one truly has our best interest in mind. Having a favorable opinion of Obama probably indicates they think he's weak.
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I've got business clients in Australia and they don't believe that at all. In fact, AU has some of the highest approval ratings for Obama.

Personal anecdotes aside, the polling doesn't lie. I apologize in advance if the polling doesn't coincide with personal prejudices.

Frankly, I expect few here would acknowledge anything as fact that didn't fit into their preconceived notions of what it should be. Carry on.
 
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snowvols said:
I work for an airline and spend a large portion of my time in Western Europe. The myth that Americans know little about international affairs and the rest of the world is well versed is exactly that, a myth. I have found that neither really knows very much, though lots of Europeans pretend that they do. Most people in a country such as Germany know as much about US politics as an American knows about German. In events like the migrant crisis I meet people all the time that blame the US for the Syrian displacement and "our invasion" of Syria, which of course, we have never invaded. They think we started the Syrian conflict by trying to overthrow Assad, which of course is also not true. The US didn't become involved for over two years. There are many things the rest of the world is quite wrong about, and while I love Europe I don't put much stock into their opinions of the US political system or how they view our politicians.
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Hmm, I don't travel internationally often but my clients come from all over. Trying to keep pace with their perspective is a impossible - we're insulated from things like the refugee crisis, the conflict in Ukraine and the like. By and large, we're told what the propaganda machines want us to know, these people live it because it's on their doorstep. I don't know, the people I talk to are far more informed than you make them out to be.
 
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Septic said:
I've got business clients in Australia and they don't believe that at all. In fact, AU has some of the highest approval ratings for Obama.

Personal anecdotes aside, the polling doesn't lie. I apologize in advance if the polling doesn't coincide with personal prejudices.

Frankly, I expect few here would acknowledge anything as fact that didn't fit into their preconceived notions of what it should be. Carry on.
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That's because they are on the other side of the planet, are an island nation and they don't have a 3rd world country invading them
 
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