New commitment!!!!

#101
#101
You know it amazes me that everyone on here posits the exact same argument every single time this situation comes up. Don't you guys have anything else to say?
 
#102
#102
My God, these kids are just now going into their Senior year. Many of the 3-stars we have will become 4-stars after this upcoming season. I am pretty confident that Crowder, Smith, Randolph, and Posey will be 4-star recruits by December. Anyway, I am more impressed with offer lists than I am stars.
 
#103
#103
RedStickVOL said:
You know it amazes me that everyone on here posits the exact same argument every single time this situation comes up. Don't you guys have anything else to say?
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Word. We go through this every time a 3-star commits.
 
#105
#105
Not sure if someone else has answered this, but where is the link on Volquest that shows his commitment.
 
#106
#106
This kid WANTS to be a Vol and that should be enough. CDD and CCS saw something in this kid that made them want to offer him, and thats good enough for me. Anyone here think they know more about evaluating d-line talent than CCS? If so then quit your day job and go get a GA job somewhere and start your coaching career. Otherwise quit your whining over stars and give this kid and the new staff a chance.
 
#107
#107
buckfama said:
This kid WANTS to be a Vol and that should be enough.
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There are thousands of kids in Tennessee who want to be Vols. That doesn't change the fact that we would be fighting Vanderbilt to stay out of the SEC East cellar every year if we signed 25 of them in each class.
 
#109
#109
justingroves said:
See this is the thing: One game doesn't make a trend.

9 times out of 10, Alabama monkey stomps Utah and Oklahoma rapes Boise State.

Using one game as an example does nothing.

Where was all that Boise talent when they got exposed by Georgia in 05 or 06? (I can't remember the season)

Tennessee has to play 8 games a year against SEC competition, not one game every decade.
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If a team can stomp a mudhole in a given team on a nationally televised game, they can do it with consistency. It's not like they ate a case of green kryptonite just for that game , in Boise or Utah's case. It's the mentality and conditioning of the team that comes into play. Sure there are players that are far and above others as physical specimens. But most of the ratings are very circumstantial and don't really reflect player A against player M. If player A is a 5 star and player M is as well in another part of the country, both with state championship teams, it's hard to really compare them . So we are left with the assumption that both of them are pretty damn good players when player M may have been on a team in a conference where team A would have ran all over them. And when you say SEC competition. I won't start another pointless flame fest, but the conference is not as strong top to bottom as you think it is. It's like people think that nobody outside the south knows how to play football....
 
#111
#111
This guy is from Gainesville, so if this kid is legit and his a stock rises, UF will offer and he will be a Gator in a heartbeat.

Doubt this guy is a Vol come NSD.
 
#112
#112
Wezcoast said:
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If a team can stomp a mudhole in a given team on a nationally televised game, they can do it with consistency. It's not like they ate a case of green kryptonite just for that game , in Boise or Utah's case. It's the mentality and conditioning of the team that comes into play. Sure there are players that are far and above others as physical specimens. But most of the ratings are very circumstantial and don't really reflect player A against player M. If player A is a 5 star and player M is as well in another part of the country, both with state championship teams, it's hard to really compare them . So we are left with the assumption that both of them are pretty damn good players when player M may have been on a team in a conference where team A would have ran all over them. And when you say SEC competition. I won't start another pointless flame fest, but the conference is not as strong top to bottom as you think it is. It's like people think that nobody outside the south knows how to play football....
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So you'd be willing to bet everything you own on Utah beating Alabama 7 out of 10 times?

And I can promise you the SEC is a whole hell of a lot stonger than the WAC or MWC.
 
#113
#113
Wezcoast said:
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If a team can stomp a mudhole in a given team on a nationally televised game, they can do it with consistency. It's not like they ate a case of green kryptonite just for that game , in Boise or Utah's case. It's the mentality and conditioning of the team that comes into play. Sure there are players that are far and above others as physical specimens. But most of the ratings are very circumstantial and don't really reflect player A against player M. If player A is a 5 star and player M is as well in another part of the country, both with state championship teams, it's hard to really compare them . So we are left with the assumption that both of them are pretty damn good players when player M may have been on a team in a conference where team A would have ran all over them. And when you say SEC competition. I won't start another pointless flame fest, but the conference is not as strong top to bottom as you think it is. It's like people think that nobody outside the south knows how to play football....
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:eek:lol: Utah would beat Alabama with consistency?
 
#116
#116
justingroves said:
So you'd be willing to bet everything you own on Utah beating Alabama 7 out of 10 times?

And I can promise you the SEC is a whole hell of a lot stonger than the WAC or MWC.
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That Utah team against that Alabama team...you bet.
 
#119
#119
SGMVols said:
Was every player Fulmer recruited good enough for you?
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So Fulmer never had a 3 star or lower ever turn out to be a good player? How about Al Wilson? I beleive he was a low 3 star? VA Tech kicked the crap out of us with a team loaded with 3 star talent. The 3 star tailback that ran all over us and the rest of the ACC last year was a 3 star. Stars don't mean squat other than it is an opinion of some guy who watched some film or maybe got to see a game of a kid and evaluate him. 0 stars means no evaluation. Evidently CDD and CCS did evaluate him and saw something that they liked. How is your evaluation coming?
 
#121
#121
buckfama said:
So Fulmer never had a 3 star or lower ever turn out to be a good player? How about Al Wilson? I beleive he was a low 3 star? VA Tech kicked the crap out of us with a team loaded with 3 star talent. The 3 star tailback that ran all over us and the rest of the ACC last year was a 3 star. Stars don't mean squat other than it is an opinion of some guy who watched some film or maybe got to see a game of a kid and evaluate him. 0 stars means no evaluation. Evidently CDD and CCS did evaluate him and saw something that they liked. How is your evaluation coming?
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Al Wilson was a highly regarded recruit way back when.
 
#122
#122
I encourage you to go get boise state or utah talent and see where that gets you.

I don't believe that is dooley's goal and you should be happy about that.
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#123
#123
VKAman said:
And plenty of them sucked.
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That's with any recruiting class in any team. You get a mixed bag . Look I'm not saying that ratings are moot and it doesn't matter , I'm saying that there isn't that much difference between the majority of 3stars vs 5 stars. There's just no consistent way of evaluating them. Hell the same player can have drastically different performance levels in the same season. Look at Travis Henry. There were times when he would hit the pile and immediately hit the ground and there were times when he would have run over a mack truck.
 
#124
#124
Wezcoast said:
That's with any recruiting class in any team. You get a mixed bag . Look I'm not saying that ratings are moot and it doesn't matter , I'm saying that there isn't that much difference between the majority of 3stars vs 5 stars. There's just no consistent way of evaluating them. Hell the same player can have drastically different performance levels in the same season. Look at Travis Henry. There were times when he would hit the pile and immediately hit the ground and there were times when he would have run over a mack truck.
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That doesn't change what I said. A class of 2- and 3-stars would be a disaster in the SEC. See Vanderbilt.
 
#125
#125
Wezcoast said:
That's with any recruiting class in any team. You get a mixed bag . Look I'm not saying that ratings are moot and it doesn't matter , I'm saying that there isn't that much difference between the majority of 3stars vs 5 stars. There's just no consistent way of evaluating them. Hell the same player can have drastically different performance levels in the same season. Look at Travis Henry. There were times when he would hit the pile and immediately hit the ground and there were times when he would have run over a mack truck.
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Look at how well the last 5 BCS Champions recruited according to the "star" system.
 
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