NCAA probing Tennessee basketball program

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hatvol96 said:
I can say with confidence several teams involved in the recruitment of Tobias Harris wondered how Tony Jones could get so close to that family with the limited contacts allowed by rule. Just saying.
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I'll look for that in the coming weeks. Still don't think it's a big deal. His family seemed relatively grounded during the recruiting frenzy.
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wonder if the 'aa will get into ramar smiths paperwork at all?
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
I'll look for that in the coming weeks. Still don't think it's a big deal. His family seemed relatively grounded during the recruiting frenzy.
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If, as has been swirling around the hoops rumor mill for some time now, Tennessee was using throwaway phones to keep daily contact with high profile recruits in response to losing Selby, rest assured it's a big deal.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If, as has been swirling around the hoops rumor mill for some time now, Tennessee was using throwaway phones to keep daily contact with high profile recruits in response to losing Selby, rest assured it's a big deal.
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How can that be proven. Surely they aren't stupid enough to register them to anyone connected to the program.
 
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NYYVol said:
wonder if the 'aa will get into ramar smiths paperwork at all?
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Even though I think you suck, you bring up a valid point. From what I've heard this was the big reason Pearl was megapissed about possible 'AA glasses peering into his program when the Kiffin story broke.
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hatvol96 said:
If, as has been swirling around the hoops rumor mill for some time now, Tennessee was using throwaway phones to keep daily contact with high profile recruits in response to losing Selby, rest assured it's a big deal.
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1 to 10, with 10 being USC under Floyd?
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I'm only going to say one thing and then I'm going to stay away for awhile for the sake of my sanity.

It's not particularly good.

Be back to discuss in the future when things calm down.
 
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
1 to 10, with 10 being USC under Floyd?
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Not sure how a coach that got a clean bill of ethical health would be a 10. That aside, this new basketball task force is making it a focus to hammer intentional rules violations. Can't imagine there are many things more intentional than buying throwaway phones to hide illegal contacts. If true, it's a 9. The only things worse would be outright payment of players or coordinated academic fraud.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Not sure how a coach that got a clean bill of ethical health would be a 10. That aside, this new basketball task force is making it a focus to hammer intentional rules violations. Can't imagine there are many things more intentional than buying throwaway phones to hide illegal contacts. If true, it's a 9. The only things worse would be outright payment of players or coordinated academic fraud.
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Ouch.
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hatvol96 said:
He was stupid enough to think taping a conversation with a 17 year kid and turning it over to the 'AA was a good career move. You tell me.
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couple national titles at the lower levels, multiple sweet sixteens with multiple teams, and an elite 8.

Multi million dollar career just for coaching basketball.

Yes, terrible career move indeed, he'll never recover.
 
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#38
Got to love how the interwebs and ESPN are all over this story but the KNS's assigned beat writer is silent. Awesome reporting.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
couple national titles at the lower levels, multiple sweet sixteens with multiple teams, and an elite 8.

Multi million dollar career just for coaching basketball.

Yes, terrible career move indeed, he'll never recover.
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Yeah, lead assistant at a Big Ten school to over a decade in the sticks. I'm sure that's the career path Pearl had in mind.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yeah, lead assistant at a Big Ten school to over a decade in the sticks. I'm sure that's the career path Pearl had in mind.
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grasping.

I'm sure if he had to do it over again he wouldn't change a thing. I've been to hear him speak where he has said as much. He wouldn't be the coach he is now if it wasn't for the route he took.
 
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What was UConn's penalty for the excess contact Calhoun and staff made from this past spring?
 
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Wow, Bruce Pearl might not be the perfect son who breaks zero rules as some fans make him out to be...shocking.
 
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Unless theres more to it than the phone calls, UConn got cited with worse this spring, and Calhoun said the worst part of that day was going to the dentist for a root canal.

But seriously, it seems like it would be hard to prove anything when it comes to disposable cell phones. the same things our own intelligence communities have problems with terrorists using.
 
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Never read Hatvol96's comment first on a thread with Bruce Pearl's name in it. His BS about throwaway cell phones and a 9 had me going. Until I realized that that happens daily.
 
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golfballs03 said:
Unless theres more to it than the phone calls, UConn got cited with worse this spring, and Calhoun said the worst part of that day was going to the dentist for a root canal.

But seriously, it seems like it would be hard to prove anything when it comes to disposable cell phones. the same things our own intelligence communities have problems with terrorists using.
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UCONN hasn't even filed their response to the Letter of Inquiry yet. Thus, the 'AA hasn't ruled on their infractions yet.

Not near as hard to prove as you think when you can trace where the phone was sold. You think the 'AA is going to believe a story that a bunch of calls from the 865 area code to a kid from, for example, suburban New York City came from anyone other than the coaching staff?
 
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hatvol96 said:
UCONN hasn't even filed their response to the Letter of Inquiry yet. Thus, the 'AA hasn't ruled on their infractions yet.

Not near as hard to prove as you think when you can trace where the phone was sold. You think the 'AA is going to believe a story that a bunch of calls from the 865 area code to a kid from, for example, suburban New York City came from anyone other than the coaching staff?
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Well it will be interesting to see. I'd hate to think they were that dumb. But how can they go about getting phone records for something like that? In this case, they wouldn't be able to go through the school if they were "unauthorized phones"
 
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golfballs03 said:
But how can they go about getting phone records for something like that?
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If it involves a player at UT, it's real simple. They'll do what they did to Renardo Sidney. Give us the records or we'll declare you ineligible.
 
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