NBA Playoffs Thread

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#1,481
Kingston Vol said:
Is the Lakers roster as currently constructed better than the Cavs? (Minus LeBron)

Probably so.
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KCP is solid, but he's out if Lebron is in. Same goes for IT and Randle (assuming Paul George goes to LAL, too).

I like Hart, Kuzma, and Lonzo, but I don't think they're ready to do anything significant yet.

Ingram is still a project, IMO.

Who is going to be their big? Their bench? I don't think that team can beat Houston or GSW. Can they even beat the Jazz and T Wolves?
 
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#1,482
n_huffhines said:
KCP is solid, but he's out if Lebron is in. Same goes for IT and Randle (assuming Paul George goes to LAL, too).

I like Hart, Kuzma, and Lonzo, but I don't think they're ready to do anything significant yet.

Ingram is still a project, IMO.

Who is going to be their big? Their bench? I don't think that team can beat Houston or GSW. Can they even beat the Jazz and T Wolves?
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I’m not arguing it is a perfect roster. But is it better than the supporting cast he has around him in Cleveland right now? I think it is.

I say this to point out that LeBron is so great that it doesn’t matter where he goes - that team is going to be a title favorite. I don’t know why people think he won’t “wait” for the Lakers to grow up. He won’t have to. He’ll make them grow up quickly.

And they’ll likely be able to add Paul George and possibly CP3 or Kawhi.
 
#1,483
#1,483
n_huffhines said:
Anybody else could have called timeout. That makes 6 idiots.
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If you rewatch, Lebron does make a half assed motion for timeout.

It was a totally blown chance, though.

The Warriors were in absolute shock, and they couldve got a much better look just wingin' it than they would have off an inbounds play.
 
#1,484
#1,484
Refs got the call right on the charge. There were a million plays that could have changed the outcome. Hill hits the free throw and maybe game over. Jr was a dummy like usual. He is there because of LeBron though.
 
#1,486
#1,486
n_huffhines said:
gtfo
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That wasn't a charge.

First thing is one ref called charge, the other block. It wasn't over turned. It was reviewed because they didn't agree.

As for the actual play LeBron was not set and he was sideways. You can not get a call if you are turned to the side and moving. He took an extra slide when he saw how close he was to the restricted area. He was moving. You can't slide under someone going up for the shot.

You have to beat the man to the spot and have your chest towards them unless it's a player control foul. It wasn't though.

People can say it shouldn't have been reviewed or whatever. Once reviewed the correct call was made though.
 
#1,487
#1,487
Hey ape how about that lazy ass box out by Durant at the end too?
 
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#1,488
k-town_king said:
That wasn't a charge.

First thing is one ref called charge, the other block. It wasn't over turned. It was reviewed because they didn't agree.

As for the actual play LeBron was not set and he was sideways. You can not get a call if you are turned to the side and moving. He took an extra slide when he saw how close he was to the restricted area. He was moving. You can't slide under someone going up for the shot.

You have to beat the man to the spot and have your chest towards them unless it's a player control foul. It wasn't though.

People can say it shouldn't have been reviewed or whatever. Once reviewed the correct call was made though.
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I don't even know what you're talking about, he easily beat Durant to the spot. Lebron leaned a little, but the leaning isn't what created the contact. It was happening either way because Durant was careless and out of control. Lebron had both feet set before Durant left his feet.
 
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#1,489
Not that I’m an official but I always look to see when the driver leaves his feet compared to where the defender is. LeBron was there before Durant left his feet. My biggest issue is they initiated the review to see if he was in the circle when he was 5 feet away. That was bad
 
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#1,490
He was clearly out of the circle. If you need to review that, you don't belong on the biggest stage.
 
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#1,491
n_huffhines said:
I don't even know what you're talking about, he easily beat Durant to the spot. Lebron leaned a little, but the leaning isn't what created the contact. It was happening either way because Durant was careless and out of control. Lebron had both feet set before Durant left his feet.
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He wasn't set. He was moving. He also was sideways because he was sliding under him. You can't draw a charge with the side of your body period. You learn that in elementary school basketball leagues. Lmao.

So he was sideways and moving. Most analysis coming out agrees. The only argument is if it should have been reviewed. But that ignores that all the refs did not agree on a charge.

Here’s why referees changed LeBron James’s charge on Kevin Durant to a block - SBNation.com

NBA officials have been able to review block or charge foul calls in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter or during overtime since the 2012-13 season. According to the official NBA rulebook, the call is deemed a block if the defender is: a) Not in a legal guarding position, or b) in a legal guarding position, but inside the restricted area. The call is only deemed a charge if “the defender was in a legal guarding position and outside the restricted area.”

James was not in the restricted area, but you can see his body moving while Durant goes up for his shot. Therefore, the officials changed the call.

Why refs got charge-block call on LeBron James correct — and why Cavs should still be upset | NBA | Sporting News

"The reason for the trigger is that we had doubt as to whether or not James was in the restricted area. When over at the table, we then are allowed to determine whether or not he was in a legal guarding position.

"It was determined he was out of the restricted area, but he was not in legal guarding position prior to Durant's separate shooting motion. So we had to change it to a blocking foul."

This is correct by the book. Despite clearly being outside of the restricted area, James was sliding to his left and hadn't quite established position before Durant attempted a shot. It's a blocking foul. All good here, right?
 
#1,492
#1,492
That’s an opinionated call that should be left the way it was called on the floor. The restricted area was just an excuse to get to the monitor
 
#1,493
#1,493
volnbama_ said:
That’s an opinionated call that should be left the way it was called on the floor. The restricted area was just an excuse to get to the monitor
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Yeah, I watched all 82 Hornets games and probably another 50-100 national games this year and I didn’t know that rule existed. Everyone on my Twitter timeline felt the same way.
 
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n_huffhines said:
He was clearly out of the circle. If you need to review that, you don't belong on the biggest stage.
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Forget the biggest stage. If they needed a review to see if he was out of the restricted area, then I wouldn’t want them calling my kids rec league game.
 
#1,495
#1,495
volnbama_ said:
That’s an opinionated call that should be left the way it was called on the floor. The restricted area was just an excuse to get to the monitor
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It's really not except for Warriors haters and LeBron stans. He was clearly moving. All the refs didn't agree. It should have been reviewed. He definitely was moving. Correct call. He had an all time great performance. He was moving on that play.

Let's not forget all the offensive fouls they didn't call on LeBron and the phantom fouls he got awarded. It wasn't a perfect game but this call was right.
 
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k-town_king said:
It's really not except for Warriors haters and LeBron stans. He was clearly moving. All the refs didn't agree. It should have been reviewed. He definitely was moving. Correct call. He had an all time great performance. He was moving on that play.

Let's not forget all the offensive fouls they didn't call on LeBron and the phantom fouls he got awarded. It wasn't a perfect game but this call was right.
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Dude, you live in an echo chamber.

Greeny, Taylor, Rose, and Williams were all flaming the refs today on Get Up. 4 botched calls in the last few minutes. There is no argument here.
 
#1,497
#1,497
Yeah he totally drew that on the side of his body.
 

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n_huffhines said:
Dude, you live in an echo chamber.

Greeny, Taylor, Rose, and Williams were all flaming the refs today on Get Up. 4 botched calls in the last few minutes. There is no argument here.
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Plus 25 year vet Steve Javie said it was a charge
 
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