NBA Playoffs Thread

[k-town_king]

Dude, you live in an echo chamber.

Greeny, Taylor, Rose, and Williams were all flaming the refs today on Get Up. 4 botched calls in the last few minutes. There is no argument here.

And many more did have talked about how the call was correct. I didn't see Get up today so I'd don't know what they said. I have posted a few links about why the call was right.

On First Take they said it was a block . They argued if it should have been reviewed, but acknowledged that it was a block.

There were missed calls both ways all game. If they called everything correct LeBron would have missed half the game in foul trouble or fouled out. He offensive fouled every time Curry switched on him. He got stripped clean and got the foul call. It went both ways.

That was a block though. He was moving.

Yeah he totally drew that on the side of his body.

He did. Look at the video. Even on the still you posted his feet aren't both set. The right is still moving, not down and set.

Plus 25 year vet Steve Javie said it was a charge

And the current refs said he hadn't established position.:zeitung_lesen:

 

[Cdywolfe]

Both his feet were on the floor at the moment of contact and his right foot moved after KD ran into him. I took a screen shot of a gif and it was difficult it get the exact moment of contact. I only posted it cause it shows KD ran right into the front him, not his side like you stated.

Also... The current NBA refs stated their colleagues and the organization they work for got it right. What a shocker. Guess that ends the discussion everybody.

 

[Cdywolfe]

And FTR I’m not blaming the refs for the loss. Hill could’ve hit both FTs. JR could’ve not been a retard. And the Cavs could’ve showed up for the OT period, which they didn’t.

I’m just stating that’s a questionable call at best and one that had no business ever being reviewed in the first place.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

True. But this game showed quite a bit. Cleveland was afew dumb plays away from beating the mighty Warriors in their house. Thats big.

I think Iggy means more to this team versus the Cavs than people realize. He mitigates LeBron as well as anyone. Offensively, his game is a watered down version of LBJ but he's always been one of the best LBJ stoppers this decade.

 

[apevol]

I think Iggy means more to this team versus the Cavs than people realize. He mitigates LeBron as well as anyone. Offensively, his game is a watered down version of LBJ but he's always been one of the best LBJ stoppers this decade.

ive been saying this for awhile

 

[apevol]

Hey ape how about that lazy ass box out by Durant at the end too?

**** Kevin Durant

 

[zjcvols]

Listening to an interview with Gary Payton and holy **** was the guy durable. Take away the lockout year and his last year (16 years) Payton played 77 games every year! Played at least 80 games 13 times! And averaged 36 MPG.

 

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[Lawrence Wright]

I don't even know what you're talking about, he easily beat Durant to the spot. Lebron leaned a little, but the leaning isn't what created the contact. It was happening either way because Durant was careless and out of control. Lebron had both feet set before Durant left his feet.

Disagree, it looked like a block.

Lebron's slid his right foot to the left as Durant made contact. His feet were not set.

I also don't think that call should be reviewable (let alone eligible to be overturned) for anything other than determining if the defender is outside the restricted area.

 

[apevol]

Listening to an interview with Gary Payton and holy **** was the guy durable. Take away the lockout year and his last year (16 years) Payton played 77 games every year! Played at least 80 games 13 times! And averaged 36 MPG.

He claims a conversation he had with AI when they were on a drinking binge is what prompted the 'practice' rant.

AI asked how he stayed so healthy, and GP told him George Karl never made him practice.

 

[n_huffhines]

Listening to an interview with Gary Payton and holy **** was the guy durable. Take away the lockout year and his last year (16 years) Payton played 77 games every year! Played at least 80 games 13 times! And averaged 36 MPG.

It's crazy to look at the differences in minutes played today. Lebron led the league with 3,026 minutes (36.9 mpg). Shaq, Hakeem, Mailman, Admiral, Ewing....all of them played that many minutes in the 90's.

 

[volnbama_]

It's crazy to look at the differences in minutes played today. Lebron led the league with 3,026 minutes (36.9 mpg). Shaq, Hakeem, Mailman, Admiral, Ewing....all of them played that many minutes in the 90's.

Poppovich was the early mover on resting players and the league played copycat.

What was the difference in pace by chance?

 

[apevol]

Poppovich was the early mover on resting players and the league played copycat.

What was the difference in pace by chance?

Players who played in eras with faster pace than now averaged more minutes too.

 

[n_huffhines]

Poppovich was the early mover on resting players and the league played copycat.

What was the difference in pace by chance?

This says that 2016 had 15 teams averaging 100 possessions per 48 and that it was the most since 1991.

NBA teams playing at fastest pace in more than 20 years - Stats & Info- ESPN

And 20 teams did 100 possessions this year

NBA Stats - NBA Team Possessions per Game on TeamRankings.com

And 16 last year.

NBA Stats - NBA Team Possessions per Game on TeamRankings.com

Then factor in there is more spacing today. It's crazy to look at the minutes played and pace in the 60's. They were off the charts.

 

[apevol]

This says that 2016 had 15 teams averaging 100 possessions per 48 and that it was the most since 1991.

NBA teams playing at fastest pace in more than 20 years - Stats & Info- ESPN

And 20 teams did 100 possessions this year

NBA Stats - NBA Team Possessions per Game on TeamRankings.com

And 16 last year.

NBA Stats - NBA Team Possessions per Game on TeamRankings.com

Then factor in there is more spacing today. It's crazy to look at the minutes played and pace in the 60's. They were off the charts.

60s basketball was endless fast break basketball

 

[apevol]

The charge was either a charge or you dont call anything.

Durant was completely out of control, had no intention of shooting and was praying for a whistle

 

[k-town_king]

The charge was either a charge or you dont call anything.

Durant was completely out of control, had no intention of shooting and was praying for a whistle

He was under control. If not it would have been a player control foul on KD.

 

[95 Vol Alum]

That wasn't a charge.

First thing is one ref called charge, the other block. It wasn't over turned. It was reviewed because they didn't agree.

As for the actual play LeBron was not set and he was sideways. You can not get a call if you are turned to the side and moving. He took an extra slide when he saw how close he was to the restricted area. He was moving. You can't slide under someone going up for the shot.

You have to beat the man to the spot and have your chest towards them unless it's a player control foul. It wasn't though.

People can say it shouldn't have been reviewed or whatever. Once reviewed the correct call was made though.

I don't believe that the refs can review a block/charge because they don't agree. They had to call a block or a charge (I think they went with charge) which allows them to review if the defender was actually in the protected area or not which then allows them to switch the call to the opposite call on the floor.

Jeff Van Gundy had it right, if that can be done, then all foul calls should be open to review and overturn. Why just that specific call makes no sense?

 

[k-town_king]

I don't believe that the refs can review a block/charge because they don't agree. They had to call a block or a charge (I think they went with charge) which allows them to review if the defender was actually in the protected area or not which then allows them to switch the call to the opposite call on the floor.

Jeff Van Gundy had it right, if that can be done, then all foul calls should be open to review and overturn. Why just that specific call makes no sense?

The rule is the rule. Sucks for Cleveland. It was a block when you review the replay.

I wouldn't mind if they did review more fouls. Too many missed or made up star calls in the NBA.

 

[apevol]

The rule is the rule. Sucks for Cleveland. It was a block when you review the replay.

I wouldn't mind if they did review more fouls. Too many missed or made up star calls in the NBA.

Would be a disaster.

 

[apevol]

This says that 2016 had 15 teams averaging 100 possessions per 48 and that it was the most since 1991.

NBA teams playing at fastest pace in more than 20 years - Stats & Info- ESPN

And 20 teams did 100 possessions this year

NBA Stats - NBA Team Possessions per Game on TeamRankings.com

And 16 last year.

NBA Stats - NBA Team Possessions per Game on TeamRankings.com

Then factor in there is more spacing today. It's crazy to look at the minutes played and pace in the 60's. They were off the charts.

Also, what the hell does spacing have to do with this?

 

[n_huffhines]

Also, what the hell does spacing have to do with this?

You gotta cover more ground today because of the spacing. It helps explain how Shaq could play more minutes than Lebron.

 

[apevol]

You gotta cover more ground today because of the spacing. It helps explain how Shaq could play more minutes than Lebron.

You also get to stand around on the perimeter and spend less time with dudes leaning on you all ****ing game.

 

[95 Vol Alum]

Would be a disaster.

I know I'd quit watching. Would be unbearable.

 

[zjcvols]

Oh my God this view