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OHvol40 said:
I’m convinced that was made for 3rd graders… and might be AI. Lots of neat pictures and illustrations though, so, cool.
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It has way more facts and science than the current weather change arguments. He did a good job relating complex ideas better than most could. As a former trainer I can say that being able to present topics in a simplified style to communicate with the average lay person is NOT easy.
 
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I suggest you follow Chris Martz on X, he is a scientist who really states facts and studies who isn't a partisan hack on this subject
 
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Volnanza said:
It has way more facts and science than the current weather change arguments. He did a good job relating complex ideas better than most could. As a former trainer I can say that being able to present topics in a simplified style to communicate with the average lay person is NOT easy.
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There is no science, only suggestion/hypothesis, but I understand.
 
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Cows are vegan.

The cow eats the grass... clover... herbs.... wildflowers. The diverse, mineral-rich, organically grown plant matter from the field.

The cow converts all of that plant material into complete protein, bioavailable heme iron, zinc, B12, fat-soluble vitamins, omega-3 fatty acids, creatine, and carnosine.

Using its four stomachs. Which are considerably better at this than yours.

So technically, the most efficient way to eat a plant-based diet is to let a cow do it first.

The cow is the blender.

The cow is doing the processing you cannot do yourself.

When you eat beef, you are eating a hyperconcentrated, biologically optimised, grass-powered superfood that a vegan has been assembling for you in a field for eighteen months.
 
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StarRaider said:
Cows are vegan.

The cow eats the grass... clover... herbs.... wildflowers. The diverse, mineral-rich, organically grown plant matter from the field.

The cow converts all of that plant material into complete protein, bioavailable heme iron, zinc, B12, fat-soluble vitamins, omega-3 fatty acids, creatine, and carnosine.

Using its four stomachs. Which are considerably better at this than yours.

So technically, the most efficient way to eat a plant-based diet is to let a cow do it first.

The cow is the blender.

The cow is doing the processing you cannot do yourself.

When you eat beef, you are eating a hyperconcentrated, biologically optimised, grass-powered superfood that a vegan has been assembling for you in a field for eighteen months.
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holy cow, im a vegan..

no wonder i been craving brussel sprouts
 
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Remember how climate change is settled? Including the sea level rising?

www.theguardian.com

Global sea levels have been underestimated due to poor modelling, research suggests

Analysis shows average levels are 30cm higher than thought, and up to 150cm in south-east Asia and Indo-Pacific
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Oops, sea levels have been higher than previously assumed. So when they tell you sea level has risen X amount, its LIKELY that they didnt have an accurate starting point.

They have been making predictions that Y location should be at X height. Then go out and actually measure Y and find it to be X+2 and assume that means sea levels have risen due to climate change. The reality is more that Y was always closer to X+2 than X but they won't ever tell you that.
 
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Climate change is the biggest hoax in the history of the World. The Earth's fluctuating temperature is due to Sun cycles and can be predicted by Sunspot activity. We are due for and many think on the cusp of the next Grand Solar Minimum, which means the Earth could experience and extended cooling period (10-30 years). Why did global warming suddenly become climate change? Hmmm

CO2 is small fraction of atmosphere. There is no correlation the rise of CO2 and Earth temperature. The rise in CO2 levels has been exponential, the Earth's temperature has not.

The climate change industry rivals the oil industry in scope and a lot of people, including scientist and universities are dependent on it. That's why it is so fiercely defended and anyone has a dissenting view is shouted down. The Sun warms the Earth.
That is all.
 
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OHvol40 said:
The point that you’re missing is that the actual experts that work on these reports aren’t going to change their tune, it’s basically settled science. If we see a report from this admin, it won’t be a collaborative interdepartmental effort. So, if the people doing the work change their minds, I’ll listen. They aren’t going to though.

This hypothetical is the underpinning of the problem though, the issue has become political because so much $ is at stake… but who actually has our best interests in mind is a question everyone should be asking themselves when consuming climate change info.
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This is hogwash.
First science is never settled. Real science is an inductive process so nothing can be proved absolutely. Counter example can disprove but nothing can be proved by example.

Second, history is rife with science hoaxes. Recent ones would include Y2K and the pandemic. Y2K was a massive payday for a lot of people and most of the people who knew kept quiet and raked. The pandemic was a power and money grab. Dr. Fauci himself profited greatly on his interests. It also was the tightest control over the American people the government ever had. Both were of them the result of dishonest junk science.

Climate Change is the maybe the biggest hoax in history.
 
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rikberry31 said:
This is hogwash.
First science is never settled. Real science is an inductive process so nothing can be proved absolutely. Counter example can disprove but nothing can be proved by example.

Second, history is rife with science hoaxes. Recent ones would include Y2K and the pandemic. Y2K was a massive payday for a lot of people and most of the people who knew kept quiet and raked. The pandemic was a power and money grab. Dr. Fauci himself profited greatly on his interests. It also was the tightest control over the American people the government ever had. Both were of them the result of dishonest junk science.

Climate Change is the maybe the biggest hoax in history.
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Thanks for the lecture on science riddled with opinion 😂
 
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OHvol40 said:
Wish I could retroactively take you to work with me during your self-described “dishonest junk science” pandemic.
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I'm not saying that the pandemic was a hoax but by following the science was. Wearing masks and shutting down everything a total power grab excused by "following the science" which was not supported by science and Fauci knew that.
Flattening the curve didn't save one life, it only extended the pandemic. Hospitals raked because everything became covid to get the extra $. (my wife is a nurse who deals with financials, so I could tell you some stories as well) Pharmaceutical company made bank on mandated vaccine. Fauci enriched himself, he got money his for gain of function research that helped create the virus and he made money of his pharmaceutical interests. He should really be in jail.
The 1918 Spanish Flu was much more serious and nobody did that crap. It makes sense to protect the vulnerable and at risk, but shutting down low risk people is stupid, science will tell you that a lot of people will get it and the vast majority will be ok.
The "science behind all that was garbage, corrupt, and greedy.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I'm not saying that the pandemic was a hoax but by following the science was. Wearing masks and shutting down everything a total power grab excused by "following the science" which was not supported by science and Fauci new that.
Flattening the curve didn't save one life, it only extended the pandemic. Hospitals raked because everything became covid to get the extra $. (my wife is a nurse who deals with financials, so I could tell you some stories as well) Pharmaceutical company made bank on mandated vaccine. Fauci enriched himself, he got money his for gain of function research that helped create the virus and he made money of his pharmaceutical interests. He should really be in jail.
The 1918 Spanish Flu was much more serious and nobody did that crap. It makes sense to protect the vulnerable and at risk, but shutting down low risk people is stupid, science will tell you that a lot of people will get it and the vast majority will be ok.
The "science behind all that was garbage, corrupt, and greedy.
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So anyone who uses their position to enrich themselves should be in prison (which I don’t disagree with), well sit down, I’ve got a real doozy of a story for you about our current president…
 
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OHvol40 said:
So anyone who uses their position to enrich themselves should be in prison (which I don’t disagree with), well sit down, I’ve got a real doozy of a story for you about our current president…
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Hate to break it to you, Trump loses money being President.
 
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rikberry31 said:
This is hogwash.
First science is never settled. Real science is an inductive process so nothing can be proved absolutely. Counter example can disprove but nothing can be proved by example.

Second, history is rife with science hoaxes. Recent ones would include Y2K and the pandemic. Y2K was a massive payday for a lot of people and most of the people who knew kept quiet and raked. The pandemic was a power and money grab. Dr. Fauci himself profited greatly on his interests. It also was the tightest control over the American people the government ever had. Both were of them the result of dishonest junk science.

Climate Change is the maybe the biggest hoax in history.
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Y2K wasn't a science hoax. It was a real issue to which many overreacted.
The pandemic wasn't a hoax. It was a very real threat to which many over- or underreacted or otherwise mishandled.
Climate change is real. It's the extent to which humans cause it that's open to debate.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I'm not saying that the pandemic was a hoax but by following the science was. Wearing masks and shutting down everything a total power grab excused by "following the science" which was not supported by science and Fauci new that.
Flattening the curve didn't save one life, it only extended the pandemic. Hospitals raked because everything became covid to get the extra $. (my wife is a nurse who deals with financials, so I could tell you some stories as well) Pharmaceutical company made bank on mandated vaccine. Fauci enriched himself, he got money his for gain of function research that helped create the virus and he made money of his pharmaceutical interests. He should really be in jail.
The 1918 Spanish Flu was much more serious and nobody did that crap.
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You should look at the history. A lot of places did take measures similar to what were used during the pandemic and they helped.
rikberry31 said:
It makes sense to protect the vulnerable and at risk, but shutting down low risk people is stupid, science will tell you that a lot of people will get it and the vast majority will be ok.
The "science behind all that was garbage, corrupt, and greedy.
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rikberry31 said:
Climate change is the biggest hoax in the history of the World. The Earth's fluctuating temperature is due to Sun cycles and can be predicted by Sunspot activity. We are due for and many think on the cusp of the next Grand Solar Minimum, which means the Earth could experience and extended cooling period (10-30 years). Why did global warming suddenly become climate change? Hmmm

CO2 is small fraction of atmosphere. There is no correlation the rise of CO2 and Earth temperature. The rise in CO2 levels has been exponential, the Earth's temperature has not.

The climate change industry rivals the oil industry in scope and a lot of people, including scientist and universities are dependent on it. That's why it is so fiercely defended and anyone has a dissenting view is shouted down. The Sun warms the Earth.
That is all.
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Yep. Climate change, and the stupid people that actually went along with it and actually thought we could actually control the weather are embarrassments. The sun, or lack of sun, makes ALL our weather.

And yes, we just entered a perhaps 50 year period of diminished solar activity. This means colder winters for all for the next several decades. It happens folks.
 
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EasternVol said:
Y2K wasn't a science hoax. It was a real issue to which many overreacted.
The pandemic wasn't a hoax. It was a very real threat to which many over- or underreacted or otherwise mishandled.
Climate change is real. It's the extent to which humans cause it that's open to debate.
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No shite the climate changes. It’s called weather patterns, seasonal and macro.
The hoax is the money being spent on the climate agenda. Trillions have been spent for what? The hoax is that CO2 is causing it.
The Sun warms the Earth, it’s simple as that. What warms your house? HVAC. The humans causing the temp to go up theory is equivalent to flickering a Bic in your living room and hearing up your house. Anybody who says otherwise is either ignorant or lying.
 
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EasternVol said:
You should look at the history. A lot of places did take measures similar to what were used during the pandemic and they helped.
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Uh, I was there. The cost far outweighed the benefit. Trying to lock everyone up and shutting down was stupid and I didn’t participate. Life went on as normal and I didn’t die. Besides if you live your life so afraid of death that you don’t live, you’re already dead. WGWTFA.
 
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