More Climate BS...

[EasternVol]

So you are just trolling. Got it.

Not trolling, just responding to a fallacious argument. Please try to keep up.

 

[Wireless1]

i would like less sensors... thx

Sorry, those sensors put bread on my table, so more, give me more…..

 

[McDad]

Sure, I don’t believe earth climate is too sophisticated to predict, especially the change of only a few variables (notably atmospheric composition).

You must be confused, that's not my question that you answered with a question.

Please try again. Thanks.

 

[norrislakevol]

No, no weather forecasting, just climate forecasting. Like this: Climate Models

Also, do you believe we have the general ability to forecast climate in general, using all available methods?

Climate forecasting is very difficult, and the best assumption is that climate model predictions are sketchy at best. I have a friend who is a climate scientist. He and I have studied the weather for a great many years, and he actually earned degrees in the field. I asked him why the climate models were so horrible, and he told me they were worse than horrible, and that it was almost impossible to get reliable data from them. They don't take oscillations into account, the tropics, and do a very poor job at trying to predict ocean currents.

This was a bout 5 years ago, so they may have improved some since then, but I doubt that they are much more accurate. I mainly just pay attention to the EURO, NAM, and GFS models (regular weather models) which generally do a poor job at accurate predictions more than about 4 days out.

 

[Sea Ray]

Was it better, worse, or the same as this one?

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It was worse...just the opposite of this inverted pyramid. Hence the issue.

 

[OHvol40]

It was worse...just the opposite of this inverted pyramid. Hence the issue.

How was it worse, in terms of nutrition?

 

[85SugarVol]

Well it was the Biden Administration and when an issue was in their agenda they really pushed it.

Exactly my point. And he knows full well he wouldn’t put much stock in a similar report published by this Administration.

NCA5 was released in 2023, which means it was likely compiled in 2022 - during the height of the hyper-Progressive push along multiple fronts.

 

[Sea Ray]

How was it worse, in terms of nutrition?

It emphasized carbs. It incentivized low fat. Low fat things like margarine, fat free milk, potato chips and others were higher in carbs. This advice led to a country with a huge type 2 diabetes problem. Fats are not the problem. In fact they're good for you, particularly for brain health. Carbs are the enemy. The original food pyramid was a bone thrown to the grain industry

 

[Volnanza]

Not so much, Is trial by jury crap? Scientists study available facts and draw their conclusions on issues including climate change. If I'm not mistaken some scientists thought the first A bomb would trigger a chain reaction and destroy Earth, but the consensus was that it wouldn't.

Trial by jury is not even comparable to the scientific method. Did you sleep through science class. The scientific method requires exact, independently, reproducible results. Trial by jury is subjective. Change the jury, change the judge, change the jurisdiction, change the results.

 

[OHvol40]

It emphasized carbs. It incentivized low fat. Low fat things like margarine, fat free milk, potato chips and others were higher in carbs. This advice led to a country with a huge type 2 diabetes problem. Fats are not the problem. In fact they're good for you, particularly for brain health. Carbs are the enemy. The original food pyramid was a bone thrown to the grain industry

Lol, carbs are not “the enemy”, they are an essential nutrient that supports one of the most efficient metabolic processes your body uses to convert food to ATP (energy). A balanced diet with moderate amounts of each essential nutrient is best, unless you have individual needs that differ.

 

[Sea Ray]

Lol, carbs are not “the enemy”, they are an essential nutrient that supports one of the most the most efficient metabolic processes your body uses to convert food to ATP (energy). A balanced diet with moderate amounts of each essential nutrient is best, unless you have individual needs that differ.

Your post made me feel less guilty about all the alcohol I drink

Seriously, carbs are not one of the essential food groups and no American is lacking in carbs

I’m a believer in eating as low processed food as possible and foods that support immune health. I think that’s an area that needs more attention. We have so many autoimmune issues today

 

[OHvol40]

Your post made me feel less guilty about all the alcohol I drink

Seriously, carbs are not one of the essential food groups and no American is lacking in carbs

I’m a believer in eating as low processed food as possible and foods that support immune health. I think that’s an area that needs more attention. We have so many autoimmune issues today

This is just not correct. I’m not a RD, but I work with plenty that could go into greater detail about glycolysis, the Krebs cycle, electron transport chain, etc.

 

[hog88]

Exactly my point. And he knows full well he wouldn’t put much stock in a similar report published by this Administration.

NCA5 was released in 2023, which means it was likely compiled in 2022 - during the height of the hyper-Progressive push along multiple fronts.

Climate change has become a religion. No data or facts are going to change the minds of the true believers.

 

[Sea Ray]

This is just not correct. I’m not a RD, but I work with plenty that could go into greater detail about glycolysis, the Krebs cycle, electron transport chain, etc.

It’s not correct? Here are the five essential food groups and carbs are not one of them

https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/blog/back-basics-all-about-myplate-food-groups

Nowhere does it say that you need to make an effort to eat sugar. There will be carbs in the grains but carbs by themselves are not an essential food group

You’re free to disagree. I often don’t agree with government but it’s not factual for you to say that my comment that carbs are not an essential food group is “not correct “

 

[McDad]

This is just not correct. I’m not a RD, but I work with plenty that could go into greater detail about glycolysis, the Krebs cycle, electron transport chain, etc.

You should brush up on your understanding of glucogenesis. Your body will create glucose e even if no carbs are consumed. Krebs cycle and energy production is maintained.

 

[85SugarVol]

Climate change has become a religion. No data or facts are going to change the minds of the true believers.

Oh the Man-Made Climate Change ideology absolutely has.

Incredibly staunch acolytes in the vanguard of that movement.

 

[OHvol40]

It’s not correct? Here are the five essential food groups and carbs are not one of them

https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/blog/back-basics-all-about-myplate-food-groups

Nowhere does it say that you need to make an effort to eat sugar. There will be carbs in the grains but carbs by themselves are not an essential food group

You’re free to disagree. I often don’t agree with government but it’s not factual for you to say that my comment that carbs are not an essential food group is “not correct “

What do you think is in grains?

 

[OHvol40]

You should brush up on your understanding of glucogenesis. Your body will create glucose e even if no carbs are consumed. Krebs cycle and energy production is maintained.

Haha um, protein is broken down into usable energy through glycogenesis, a process usually taken up by your body when no carbs or fat are available through the more efficient pathways, it’s what’s used when you’re starving or malnourished… but it has nothing to do with glycolysis or the Krebs cycle. Maybe you should brush up.

 

[McDad]

Haha um, protein is broken down into usable energy through glycogenesis, a process usually taken up by your body when no carbs or fat are available through the more efficient pathways, it’s what’s used when you’re starving or malnourished… but it has nothing to do with glycolysis or the Krebs cycle. Maybe you should brush up.

This should be posted in the confidently incorrect reddit subforum.

Good luck with your learned advice to others.

 

[Sea Ray]

What do you think is in grains?

You're so predictable. I knew this was coming so I addressed it in my previous post that you highlighted but obviously didn't read:

"There will be carbs in the grains but carbs by themselves are not an essential food group"

 

[Sea Ray]

“There is no essential carbohydrate,” says Dr. Bessler. “Everything your body needs can be made from proteins and fats that you eat. You don’t need to eat a single carb to live a normal life.”

In fact, carbs can actually prevent some people from leading normal lives. A growing body of research is showing that carbs can be highly addictive. “Carbs release dopamine in the brain, and sugar can act like a drug for some people,” says Dr. Bessler. “There is a reason these foods are called comfort food.”

A New Way to Think About Carbs, Weight, and Obesity

By Natalie ChangGoogle the food pyramid, if you’ve forgotten the graphic that many of us were shown growing up in the United States. The first images that come up—even if they’ve been updated since the USDA first released their version in 1992—share a similar structure, with produce, protein...

columbiasurgery.org

 

[OHvol40]

You're so predictable. I knew this was coming so I addressed it in my previous post that you highlighted but obviously didn't read:

"There will be carbs in the grains but carbs by themselves are not an essential food group"

The original source you used is from the updated “My Plate” recommendations that were implemented after the food pyramid was thrown out. They started using “grains” instead of “carbohydrates” so it would be better understood by laypeople.

 

[OHvol40]

This should be posted in the confidently incorrect reddit subforum.

Good luck with your learned advice to others.

Then correct me. Carbohydrates are the body’s preferred fuel.

 

[Sea Ray]

The original source you used is from the updated “My Plate” recommendations that were implemented after the food pyramid was thrown out. They started using “grains” instead of “carbohydrates” so it would be better understood by laypeople.

Grains have added benefits that carbs don't, namely dietary fiber. I'm not an advocate of completely eliminating carbs from a diet and athletes need a lot of carbs but here's the bottom line:

You can live on zero carbs because your body can produce them. That's why it's not an "essential" food

 

[jvol1]

Fats are more calorie dense than carbs/sugars, that's why they taste so good, but it's all "carbs" in the end as far as the body goes. Fats and proteins just get converted to sugar.

Favoring fats over grains ignores the clogged arteries that are associated with eating too much fat and the benefits to reducing plaques associated with grains.

A diet based on fats and meat is designed to make us out of shape and easy to conquer when we get invaded. Sticking with a healthy balanced diet is best.