Mike DeBord it is .. Azzani to move on. (unconfirmed)

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You're right about the QB Coach but I was just saying there is no way we hire Debord and do make anymore hires. He is an Oline guy and not a QB Coach at all. So either Debord is hired and other changes or made to get a QB Coach in or they hire Deborg as maybe a Mahoney replacement or some kind of quality control coach. But I see zero chance Debord is hired as OC and them not free up a position for a QB coach to come in. Just seems much simpler to hire an OC who has run a similar offense and can coach QB's. Hell I would love to see Debord brought in to replace Mahoney.

Nick Sheridan coached QB's during his stints at Western Kentucky and USF. Walked on as a QB at Michigan. Don't know much about him or the QB's he's coached up but maybe he's ready to take over the QB coach role. He also got to learn from Bajakian for a year. Just throwing that out there however unlikely it may be. It's the only way I can think we could avoid hiring a QB coach if all this is true.
 
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I thought Butch is the one that gets it? Does he not know & not get it that this is a bad move for the team according to all of the VN posters?
This is pure homerism talking. Butch wouldn't be the first HC to hire a bad assistant. You were barking the same BS when Dooley was in charge. Only time will tell if Butch is utterly beyond any reproach.

Folks can weight the credential of the other candidates, judge for themselves and voice their opinion accordingly, thank you.
 
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At the end of the day, we have some freaking awesome players coming back and coming in on offense. DeBord is not bad enough IMO opinion if it is him, to screw it up that bad. Again, just my opinion. He very well may have just been helping Butch. Either way, we're gonna be ok.
 
Take a breath. Have you never heard of a mentor mentoring? A job interview doesn't take days and involve filming with some of the players.

Butch wasn't intending to mislead, though he surely didn't mind if it threw everyone off the trail. Several NFL types and even Urban were sending Butch recommendations for DeBord. Urban is an old friend of Butch, so it's funny that even he was fooled.

Butch is seemingly covering the entire country mixing in visits to recruits with job interviews. The coaching prospects have all been vetted and are meeting Butch with their agents. Butch bringing along a lawyer. Poor Butch.

The job is attracting as much attention as a Kardashian rump. Butch has a enough candidates to see to keep anyone but him busy till we get to Atlanta.

The Vols are fun again. Thank Butch. Trust Butch.
 
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This is from another poster on TOS


Read this from another poster:

1- For the last five years this board has opined the lack of forethought that lead us to hire Derek Dooley instead of David Cutcliffe (as Wes has reported a few times, Cut turned us down because we wanted to micromanage his staff and because power players wanted a "sexier" hire, but we could have gotten him.) Instead, we got what we all wanted- a connection to the Saban tree. Then we got it again with Sal. You can add the Lane Train to the sexy hire pile. Also, Dave Clawson over better pro-style OCs because fans and boosters wanted a "west coast" offense and running QB like Florida

2. Debord is the David Cutcliffe of the Midwest. Maybe we should learn from our past. How much is he like Cut? He was the OC at Michigan from 97-99. He was undefeated and won a national championship in his first year and won two Big Ten titles during that run before he decided to parlay it into a head coaching job at CMU. (Sound familiar.) In 1997 he was the national assistant coach of the year.

3- The he comes back to Michigan (he was succeeded at CMU by Kelly and then Jones). He was on staff there but not the OC because Carr wouldn't shuffle the deck and move the OC who had replaced him. As a position coach he won another Big 10 title. Then in 06 he returns to the OC position and his first team makes it to the Rose Bowl. After Carr retires he looks just like David Cutcliffe after Phil to the Michigan faithful and so they go with the "sexy hire" instead, Rich Rod. You can find Michigan blogs that opine the fact that they hired Rich Rod instead of Debord.

4- QBs he groomed as an OC at Michigan- Tom Brady, Drew Henson, Brian Griese, and Chad Henne. All had great college careers. Every QB who started a game for him at Michigan played in the NFL. He also has a huge role in the career of Scott Lefler (now OC at V Tech). Scot Loefler was his QB coach at Michigan, then goes with him to CMU, then back to Michigan. When Debord (and Carr) leave Michigan he goes to Florida as QB coach for Meyer, then to the NFL when Urby "retires".

5- When Carr retires Debord goes to the pros. He works under Mike Holmgren (a legendary offensive coach) at Seattle, then Lovie Smith (a very good coach who has a successful track record) at Chicago. Mike Martz who was the OC for the Bears (who knows a thing or two about offense) and coaches on a team that goes to the NFC championship. He stays there until Smith gets canned in early 2013, but past the coaching hiring cycle. Overall he has coached tight ends or the o-line in 5 NFL seasons.

6- The only real problem anyone has with him is the fact that he took two seasons off- but did he really? Here are some other coaches who have taken seasons off- David Cutcliffe, Bill Snyder, Urban Meyer. He is 58, not 85. That means he is younger than Spurrier, Saban, Pinkel, and Les Miles. Roughly the same age as Miles and Richt. He isn't a dinosaur. Also, I'm not convinced he's just been hanging out at intramurals at UM. This job looks more like a way to add a football coach without counting him. Note that he was the interim in charge of the team after Hoke was dismissed (that doesn't sound like a guy who isn't involved in the program) and then he was involved in the hire of Harbaugh- that turned out OK.

All of this to say- I have no idea why we are all so upset about the possibility of adding a coach who won a Natty as an OC to this staff, has coached every position on the offensive side of the ball, and helped groom Tom Brady. What does the guy at TCU, who has never called plays in a college game or the guy who won a lot of games at freaking Marshall, got that that's better than them?

This is not a "we need a recruiter" hire. We have recruiters. We need someone who is a winner, who brings stability, and who knows offense. The fact that he has that national championship ring and all those NFL contacts doesn't hurt either. I have no idea if Butch will hire him, but if our opinions about the coaches we have wanted on the message boards over the years are any measure of success (Muschamp, Strong, Sal, to name a few), then by gosh we should be thrilled that this guy is not someone any of us want. He's just a boring dude who has won a TON of HUGE games as an OC at a program very comparable to ours including a national title.

The 97 team didn't have a 1000 yard rusher or 500 yard receiver. UM won cause of defense.

That defensive unit still holds the "title" for fewest YPG and PPG in the B1G since 1985 (228 YPG and 9.5 ppg). They set the NCAA record for fewest yards per completion and allowed no 4th quarter points or 2nd half TD's in 8 of their 12 games. DeBord's offense did enough to not lose games, which wasn't hard when all you had to do was score 10 to win.
 
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He may just believe that an experienced OC with a NC to his credit that could finish his career as UT's OC in 5+ years might be a good choice.

Again, Michigan won a NC that year mostly because of a defense that gave up just 9.5 points per game, not because of an offense that averaged 26.8 points per game.

Winning a NC does not necessarily mean that every coach who's a part of that NC did a stellar job and is entitled to a lifelong vote of confidence. In fact, Michigan's offense was fairly ordinary in all five of DeBord's years at the offensive helm.

But if Butch Jones believes he's the right man right now for UT, then so be it.
 
I have no clue if DeBord will be hired... if hired, I don't know if he will succeed or fail (I will be rooting for success, as always.)

What I do know is this: This thread is going to be so much fun to bump some day. Almost the entire peanut gallery has posted their Miss Cleo inspired prediction of woe and famine for our Vols.

Yep, some real gems in here. "Call me now!"
 
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I forget. DeBord's current employer is ???


Sports administration

On February 1, 2013, DeBord was hired by Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon to be the sports administrator for the school's Olympic sports teams. In this role he works with the field hockey, men's and women's cross country, men's and women's gymnastics, men's and women's track and field, and men's and women's tennis programs.[8]

Not sure that job is a vote of confidence.
 
Sports administration

On February 1, 2013, DeBord was hired by Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon to be the sports administrator for the school's Olympic sports teams. In this role he works with the field hockey, men's and women's cross country, men's and women's gymnastics, men's and women's track and field, and men's and women's tennis programs.[8]

Not sure that job is a vote of confidence.

Yet they put the football program in his hands between the most recent firing and hiring...
 
no idea if it's going to work or if Azzani would have either... But from the outside looking in I'm a HUGE Azzani fan!
 
Again, Michigan won a NC that year mostly because of a defense that gave up just 9.5 points per game, not because of an offense that averaged 26.8 points per game.

Winning a NC does not necessarily mean that every coach who's a part of that NC did a stellar job and is entitled to a lifelong vote of confidence. In fact, Michigan's offense was fairly ordinary in all five of DeBord's years at the offensive helm.

But if Butch Jones believes he's the right man right now for UT, then so be it.

Pretty sure with the way our defense is setting up we will see similar results or better.
 
I don't see the chemistry aspect here. Only Butch has worked with him on the offensive side of the ball. CWM was DeBord's DB coach for 1 year and DeBord and CSS were on the UM staff together for a few years. Maybe being on the same staff period is a good thing but I don't see an outside OC hire affecting the offensive staff chemistry anymore than DeBord considering no one on offense has worked or played for him.

Edit: looks like Jancek worked on his CMU staff for one year and Elder was a GA at UM for a year while he was there. So a lot of guys on staff know him, still skeptical that it helps on the offensive side of the ball where no one has worked for him. RT insider says Mahoney has but their career timelines say otherwise.

Plus all that was 10-14 years ago. People change and besides that it's not like that staff at CMU was very successful. It's not like the Eagles getting back together.
 
Yet they put the football program in his hands between the most recent firing and hiring...

He was a baby sitter for a few weeks. That's about it. Not looking to argue but ask a random Michigan fan what they think of DeBord as an OC. They are horse laughing at the thought of Butch hiring him as the OC.
 
Yet they put the football program in his hands between the most recent firing and hiring...

How many times have we seen great coordinators across college football not succeed at HC and move back to coordinator and succeed. Same with great position coaches moving to coordinator and failing but put them back in what that do best and they flourish. I've personally seen several good engineers promoted to manager based on being a good engineer and fail. Two different jobs.
 
He was a baby sitter for a few weeks. That's about it. Not looking to argue but ask a random Michigan fan what they think of DeBord as an OC. They are horse laughing at the thought of Butch hiring him as the OC.

Kind of like TN fans screaming about the CBJ and CDT hires? Fans always nail it.
 
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Take a breath. Have you never heard of a mentor mentoring? A job interview doesn't take days and involve filming with some of the players.

Butch wasn't intending to mislead, though he surely didn't mind if it threw everyone off the trail. Several NFL types and even Urban were sending Butch recommendations for DeBord. Urban is an old friend of Butch, so it's funny that even he was fooled.

Butch is seemingly covering the entire country mixing in visits to recruits with job interviews. The coaching prospects have all been vetted and are meeting Butch with their agents. Butch bringing along a lawyer. Poor Butch.

The job is attracting as much attention as a Kardashian rump. Butch has a enough candidates to see to keep anyone but him busy till we get to Atlanta.

The Vols are fun again. Thank Butch. Trust Butch.

Huh?
 
I've been on board through thick and thin. I have gone more than 15 years without missing a single game. Home road or bowl. If they laced it up, I was there. I've missed weddings, funerals, birthdays etc etc etc just to watch this team play. I'm willing to bet there are fewer than 1 or 2 other people on this board who can make such a claim. I'm here to say that if we make this hire.....it will be the straw that broke my back. I'm sick and freaking tired of crap hires like this. Look at who our peers are getting....and the best we can do is this guy. I'm serious. If this goes down....I'm done. If the program isn't more dedicated to winning that that.....I'm not going to be as dedicated at watching them.

/rant.
 
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How many times have we seen great coordinators across college football not succeed at HC and move back to coordinator and succeed. Same with great position coaches moving to coordinator and failing but put them back in what that do best and they flourish. I've personally seen several good engineers promoted to manager based on being a good engineer and fail. Two different jobs.

David Cutcliff comes to mind.
 
Kind of like TN fans screaming about the CBJ and CDT hires? Fans always nail it.

Well Michigan fans have something to go on. If they don't like him now there is a reason. More like us horse laughing when FSU took Sunseri and you see how that turned out. There two years and when he was run off last week FSU fans rejoiced.
 
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