Marc Curles

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rjd970 said:
Because it wasn't a personal foul. You really disagree? That was egregiously bad. Plain and simple.
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He laid on Jones for a while, and he pushed him for absolutely no reason on the way up. Was it terrible? No. But in a game where both starting QBs had already been knocked out, you have to know that you can't so much as give the backup a dirty look. So, yeah, I agree that it COULD have gone uncalled. But you're reaching to argue that it SHOULD have gone uncalled.

Find one post in the last 2 years where I said I believe the Big 10 officials have a bias towards Bama. If anything, over the last two years you have been projecting that.
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You're misstating my argument. I'm saying that you've argued that the SEC officials have a bias toward Bama. And yet your favorite example is the comparison of an SEC call with a Big 10 call while saying they were both incorrect.
 
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bamawriter said:
He laid on Jones for a while, and he pushed him for absolutely no reason on the way up. Was it terrible? No. But in a game where both starting QBs had already been knocked out, you have to know that you can't so much as give the backup a dirty look. So, yeah, I agree that it COULD have gone uncalled. But you're reaching to argue that it SHOULD have gone uncalled.



You're misstating my argument. I'm saying that you've argued that the SEC officials have a bias toward Bama. And yet your favorite example is the comparison of an SEC call with a Big 10 call while saying they were both incorrect.
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And I have been saying, repeatedly and unequivocally, that I don't believe the Big 10 has an agenda for Bama. Over and over and over and over again. The point remains on that game, yes, the officials should NOT have thrown that flag and there was a bias in that game. You have to be looking to throw a flag there. It was that bad.

I would venture to say you are the only one not wearing Crimson glasses that believes it wasn't a terrible call.
 
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rjd970 said:
And I have been saying, repeatedly and unequivocally, that I don't believe the Big 10 has an agenda for Bama. Over and over and over and over again. The point remains on that game, yes, the officials should NOT have thrown that flag and there was a bias in that game. You have to be looking to throw a flag there. It was that bad.
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That you feel so strongly about that particular penalty reveals your bias much more than the call itself revealed the refs'.
 
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Isn't this thread about Marc Curles and how much he sucks?

If any of us sucked at our job like he has and does, we'd have been fired.

I don't have the option of being suspended. I get told to take a hike.

The fact that refs in here Are defending this guy is more mind boggling. I'd want to distance myself from a coworker who publicly made the rest of us look like idiots. Instead they come up "Well you go do the job then".

That's junior type debating.
 
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Guys listen. There is no way bamawriter is going to be honest and admit the truth. He is not going to say until the SEC moves the headquarters out of Bama the tide is going to be the favorite. If you read his posts he has tried over and over to deflect the facts and has not addressed anything that resembles the truth.
 
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Vol524 said:
Guys listen. There is no way bamawriter is going to be honest and admit the truth. He is not going to say until the SEC moves the headquarters out of Bama the tide is going to be the favorite. If you read his posts he has tried over and over to deflect the facts and has not addressed anything that resembles the truth.
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You're completely wrong, but I admire your unearned certainty.
 
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bamawriter said:
You're completely wrong, but I admire your unearned certainty.
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He's not entirely wrong. While I appreciate your calculated reasoning on certain points, you typically only inject yourself into discussions involving Bama. He implied you have bias.

The bias is real. Which is understandable given you are apparenty in the media covering for Bama.

That's not necessarily a bad thing however.

The bias of refs defending their own brethren who are so bad that my blind, dead grandfather can see the wrong calls is troubling though.
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
He's not entirely wrong. While I appreciate your calculated reasoning on certain points, you typically only inject yourself into discussions involving Bama. He implied you have bias.

The bias is real. Which is understandable given you are apparenty in the media covering for Bama.
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I actually cover the entire SEC. But I am a Bama fan so I'm obviously biased.

But I also don't subscribe to a conspiracy theory when the facts can be easily explained by incompetence.
 
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bamawriter said:
I actually cover the entire SEC. But I am a Bama fan so I'm obviously biased.

But I also don't subscribe to a conspiracy theory when the facts can be easily explained by incompetence.
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Consistently one sided incompetence is the problem.
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
He's not entirely wrong. While I appreciate your calculated reasoning on certain points, you typically only inject yourself into discussions involving Bama. He implied you have bias.

The bias is real. Which is understandable given you are apparenty in the media covering for Bama.

That's not necessarily a bad thing however.

The bias of refs defending their own brethren who are so bad that my blind, dead grandfather can see the wrong calls is troubling though.
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I hope your boss gets on social media telling everyone how terrible of an employee you are. You too dumb to know the philosophy of "defend in public, correct in private"?
 
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whobethis16 said:
There are articles about officials being assaulted, even killed, over calls. We just saw a few years ago Kentucky fans posting the personal business of a ref and calling the people to try to destroy it because of a call he made in a basketball game. It's far beyond "Jim-Bob getting glared at".
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That is horrific. There is still a difference between demanding organizational accountability and terrorizing someone. People in this forum are advocating the former; the fact that the latter occurs does not detract from this.
 
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Disney wants a bigger system for obvious reasons, but cinci has a better record, and a better coaching staff. ohio state fans are a MOB, and will be a handle. They don't lose easily.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
That is horrific. There is still a difference between demanding organizational accountability and terrorizing someone. People in this forum are advocating the former; the fact that the latter occurs does not detract from this.
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Someone on this board (which has been removed, thankfully) posted the phone number and name of Curles' financial business. If you think he did that because he wanted Curles to gain new clients, I can't help you there.
 
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whobethis16 said:
I hope your boss gets on social media telling everyone how terrible of an employee you are. You too dumb to know the philosophy of "defend in public, correct in private"?
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You aren't helping yourself. Just stop man. Seriously. For your own dignity.

Curles "boss" isn't getting on social media telling everyone how bad he is. The ones who ultimately pay to watch the product on the field, and there by extension are paying the refs to call a quality, fair game, are the ones blasting that incompetent ref for his bad job.

If my customers began to blast me on social media (which won't happen because I'm good at my job due to me being self aware of my strengths and weaknesses) I can assure you that my boss would likely pay attention to what was being said and see if the risk of keeping me on board is worth the negative press and possible financial losses.

If you feel resorting to childish name calling is a better approach to debating, then you feel free.

Reanalyze that philosophy you quoted.
 
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bamawriter said:
I actually cover the entire SEC. But I am a Bama fan so I'm obviously biased.

But I also don't subscribe to a conspiracy theory when the facts can be easily explained by incompetence.
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Then why does the incompetence rarely go against Bama? When a line judge marks the position of the ball and then he looks behind himself and he notices Bama is short of the distance. Then he moves the foot he was marking the position for the ball and places the ball on the yard marker! There is no way the is incompetence. That is just out right cheating and these things effect the out come of the game. I will wait for you to comment.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Someone on this board (which has been removed, thankfully) posted the phone number and name of Curles' financial business. If you think he did that because he wanted Curles to gain new clients, I can't help you there.
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I didn’t see said post. Sounds like it was dealt with satisfactorily. It’s still an outlier, however, and building an argument around the most extreme examples is dicey at best. You’re still essentially drawing a false equivalence between people demanding institutional accountability and pitchfork mob types.
 
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PandamoniumReigns said:
You aren't helping yourself. Just stop man. Seriously. For your own dignity.

Curles "boss" isn't getting on social media telling everyone how bad he is. The ones who ultimately pay to watch the product on the field, and there by extension are paying the refs to call a quality, fair game, are the ones blasting that incompetent ref for his bad job.

If my customers began to blast me on social media (which won't happen because I'm good at my job due to me being self aware of my strengths and weaknesses) I can assure you that my boss would likely pay attention to what was being said and see if the risk of keeping me on board is worth the negative press and possible financial losses.

If you feel resorting to childish name calling is a better approach to debating, then you feel free.

Reanalyze that philosophy you quoted.
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"Just stop", the typical attempt at pandering when you don't have the ability to actually communicate.

You're the schmuck that said "The bias of refs defending their own brethren" means you expect them to talk bad and publicly correct them, instead of adhering to what that philosophy says. There have been constant posts demanding the supervisors of the officials to publicly come out and say "yeah, these guys sucked today", which would do absolutely nothing but ensure there'd be no officials.

Paying attention to and actively getting out there saying you're terrible instead of handling internally is exactly what should be expected, as it is here. They owe the fans nothing publicly.
 
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bamawriter said:
It does. But Bama is rarely in games where the incompetence has an impact on the result.
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You still did not address the refs moving spots to help Bama. Are you saying they do that for everyone? Because that would be BS.
 
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whobethis16 said:
"Just stop", the typical attempt at pandering when you don't have the ability to actually communicate.

You're the schmuck that said "The bias of refs defending their own brethren" means you expect them to talk bad and publicly correct them, instead of adhering to what that philosophy says. There have been constant posts demanding the supervisors of the officials to publicly come out and say "yeah, these guys sucked today", which would do absolutely nothing but ensure there'd be no officials.

Paying attention to and actively getting out there saying you're terrible instead of handling internally is exactly what should be expected, as it is here. They owe the fans nothing publicly.
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Name calling is comical.

No one is stating that the head of officials comes and says "Wow, these guys really sucked today. Oops". You can't hold a rational discussion, because you won't let your defenses down.

What would be nice is that since these officials are calling games in front of thousands, or even millions, of public fans, for a public university in the majority of cases, that when egregious errors are made, especially those causing changes in the outcome of games, the head of officials makes some type of public announcement apologizing for the poor performance of their employees and stating they will take the necessary steps to correct the matter. Those paying their salaries deserve at least that.

Instead, we see the same bone headed calls being made, changing the outcomes of the game, by the same guys and nothing be said or apparently done.

Your turn. What name do you have for me now?
 
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