Let's temper our comments towards Dooley

#51
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KingtUT said:
I like Dooley and all but my lord I dont love him. He's a smart enough guy to understand that heckling and negativity comes with losing. I agree we should leave his family alone, but my goodness he's a grown man and if he cant take the heat he needs to get out the kitchen. If his feelings get hurt a little, he'll live.

My feelings get hurt just about every Saturday it seems.
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Do you need to get out of the kitchen?
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
My friend I am a professional. I was a floor manager at one of the largest Honda dealerships in the U.S. when I lived in L.A. Before I worked my way up to that position and was just a simple salesman I took all sorts of verbal abuse from customers, floor managers, desk managers, finance managers, and the general manager. There were days I felt like I was someone's red headed step child.

But being I was determined to prove every person that criticized or belittled me at my job wrong...that I was better than that...or listened to what they were saying about my job performance and make myself a better professional because of it.....I did just that. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS! I can handle jokes and criticism...I don't wear a skirt...no one walks on egg shells for me either...I'm a grown @$$ man and if I dish it out I can take it back when it is given to me bro.

If Dooley wants to shut people up....he should go out and win some football games that mean something....instead of being ZERO for a career against ranked teams.
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Did ya work your way to the top, amidst all the turmoil, in less than 3 years? And did ya start with 1 finger when everybody else had a full hand? Just wondering.
 
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VolMax said:
Nor do I, but I don't think that was OP's point. Name calling, derogatory remarks, insulting him in front of his family are unnecessary and classless.
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I agree. But I still don't have any pity for him if other people say things about him.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
As most anyone who has seen my posts over the past year knows (since the loss to KY), I've been one who has wanted to cut the cord, and get the HC'ing hire right....sooner, rather than later. I knew Hamilton had gotten us into a mess, hiring a prospect who had no measure of success to commend him to a job of this magnitude. Nevertheless, all the way up to the Bama game, I truly hoped Dooley could break through and prove us all wrong. Before the season started, I actually thought he had the talent to mask his shortcomings as a HC.

Had he been able to hold onto Wilcox, Peter Sirmon and Thompson, I still think he would have pulled it off. Losing to KY was the tipping point. Any how, I say all of that to make this point. Dooley tried, and it's time to move on....most of us agree on that. But please folks, during this time, let's not show our arses by making cruel, disparaging remarks and heckling the guy and his family at games. Let's show a little grace and act with a little dignity in this process.

Even though he is going to be financially rewarded for failing, it still has to be a gut wrenching experience for him and his family. We wouldn't want folks doing this to us, when we happen to fall short of a goal or expectation in our own lives. Let's temper our actions and comments from here on out...agreed?
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I agree---it would have been great for Dooley to win...but can we afford another year? NO. Despite all that--treat the guy with dignity and class and let him go out quietly.
 
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Just fire him.

Then the man can pack up and leave. The name calling, remarks, and other stuff would not bother him OR his family as they would no longer be here. Problem solved. :)
 
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Imagine landing a job almost anyone in the country would kill for, being unprepared to actually DO that job and to top it off have your struggles played out on national television for everyone to criticize.... I'm ready to turn the page with Dooley like most everyone ekse is, but i'd ve lying if i said I didn't feel bad for the guy, buyout and all...
 
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bluetickhound16 said:
Imagine landing a job almost anyone in the country would kill for, being unprepared to actually DO that job and to top it off have your struggles played out on national television for everyone to criticize.... I'm ready to turn the page with Dooley like most everyone ekse is, but i'd ve lying if i said I didn't feel bad for the guy, buyout and all...
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When you say "Like most everyone else", just whom are you referring to? Most, a vast majority of folks I talk with, all rabid Vol fans, disagree. Matter of fact, one lives across the river from Neyland and has not missed a home game since the pre-Manning era, and he feels very strongly that Dooley should be retained.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Just fire him.

Then the man can pack up and leave. The name calling, remarks, and other stuff would not bother him OR his family as they would no longer be here. Problem solved. :)
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Just remember...if we want Gruden here, don't think he's not eying fan reaction/conduct (in case things don't work as well as we all hope) to some degree. If we act like a bunch of low-class Bamer fans, that may be all it takes for him to say "Thanks, but No Thanks."

He's got a low-stress, high-paying job already.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Just remember...if we want Gruden here, don't think he's not eying fan reaction/conduct (in case things don't work as well as we all hope) to some degree. If we act like a bunch of low-class Bamer fans, that may be all it takes for him to say "Thanks, but No Thanks."

He's got a low-stress, high-paying job already.
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Something tells me Jon Gruden is not one to get his feelings hurt easily. He would not need mama to speak for him and let everyone know just how tough it is in college football. You make Dooley sound like he is a fragile 13 year old overweight girl. Just because he coaches like one, does not mean he is.

"Don't be mean to Dooley, We love him". :eek:lol:
 
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KoachKletus said:
When you say "Like most everyone else", just whom are you referring to? Most, a vast majority of folks I talk with, all rabid Vol fans, disagree. Matter of fact, one lives across the river from Neyland and has not missed a home game since the pre-Manning era, and he feels very strongly that Dooley should be retained.
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Ummmm... I'm referring to practically every Vol fan I speak to, hear on the radio, see posts from on VN and other sites.... Need I go on? Whether a fan has been to every home game since Nathan W Dougherty was on the team doesn't mean squat. You are what your record says you are and Dooley's record says he isn't getting the job done. I hate it because I really wanted him to succeed here. He's done everything you'd want your coach to do..... Except win.
 
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While I absolutely loath Lane Kiffin for how he left UT, I didn't care for some of the over the top stuff directed at him. Did the guy suck as a human being? Yes, I think so, but we are - as Tennesseans - better than that.

This goes triple in Coach Dooley's case. I understand the criticism, but we need to maintain class. He is a good man who has had a tough time. He may end up staying as our coach and doing great things, too. Who knows? In any event, let's all act like Tennesseans and not like idiots.

Thankfully, I haven't seen anything near as venomous as the anti-Kiffin stuff directed at Coach Dooley so far. Mostly, it's been disappointed criticism from die-hard fans.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
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Ohhhhh woooo is me....whatever am I going to do about all these hecklers and people unhappy with me being ZERO for a career against ranked teams. Maybe I should grab the wife and kids and roll around in my fat stacks of cash I now have....or maybe we should ignite about $100,000 in a pile in the back yard and roast marshmellows and make smores.
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One of the things alot of people seem to forget is this is a game. An form of entertainment. Sure it has a direct bearing on the lives of some of the players and coaches. But it doesn't help or hinder you financialy,you won't lose your livleyhood based on who wins or loses. So why are some of you acting like spoiled brats? Most fans(other than the brats) understand that football cycles for most teams in the sec. We're due for an upswing,it will come. Don't treat the coaches and players any different than you'd want to be treated. Remember what goes around comes around.
 
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bluetickhound16 said:
Ummmm... I'm referring to practically every Vol fan I speak to, hear on the radio, see posts from on VN and other sites.... Need I go on? Whether a fan has been to every home game since Nathan W Dougherty was on the team doesn't mean squat. You are what your record says you are and Dooley's record says he isn't getting the job done. I hate it because I really wanted him to succeed here. He's done everything you'd want your coach to do..... Except win.
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So, what does that put us at? 50-50? 60-40? Whatever. Things remain the same. Some folks want a different coach, some folks think Dooley should be given a 4th year. Put it this way, was it right to oust Fulmer? Some say yes, and some say no. Same situation. Put it this way, the single most important thing UT needs right now is stability. No matter the record, if coach Dooley and this team are given a vote of confidence by the fans and the admin, it should highly reflect on recruiting. What else it may reflect upon is whom come's back next year. Can you imagine what type of team we will have if all of our horses return next season.

Everybody blames Dooley. Perhaps our situation demanded that we not hire a so called winner (kiffin), but one that would build an SEC team, with character, and give him time for a bit of OJT in the SEC. As far as I'm concerned, Dooley is doing it. Our D regressed this year, as what most everybody expected. Our O improved this year, beyond expectations. With one more year, 2 more linebackers, and get our young, speedy D back in tune,,,Dooley and Sunseri might shock all the negavols.
 
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bluetickhound16 said:
Ummmm... I'm referring to practically every Vol fan I speak to, hear on the radio, see posts from on VN and other sites.... Need I go on? Whether a fan has been to every home game since Nathan W Dougherty was on the team doesn't mean squat. You are what your record says you are and Dooley's record says he isn't getting the job done. I hate it because I really wanted him to succeed here. He's done everything you'd want your coach to do..... Except win.
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The crazy thing about this season hasn't reflected the stats put up in some of our losses. To see the score we put up and the rushing and pas stats we should be winning. We haven't overcome the weakness of our defense and secondary. I don't include Lathers in that weakness. He's a great leader and player. So even though our wins don't reflect our offenses improvement. We have continued improving during Dooleys tenure. And I believe we will if hes given the chance.
 
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KoachKletus said:
So, what does that put us at? 50-50? 60-40? Whatever. Things remain the same. Some folks want a different coach, some folks think Dooley should be given a 4th year. Put it this way, was it right to oust Fulmer? Some say yes, and some say no. Same situation. Put it this way, the single most important thing UT needs right now is stability. No matter the record, if coach Dooley and this team are given a vote of confidence by the fans and the admin, it should highly reflect on recruiting. What else it may reflect upon is whom come's back next year. Can you imagine what type of team we will have if all of our horses return next season.

Everybody blames Dooley. Perhaps our situation demanded that we not hire a so called winner (kiffin), but one that would build an SEC team, with character, and give him time for a bit of OJT in the SEC. As far as I'm concerned, Dooley is doing it. Our D regressed this year, as what most everybody expected. Our O improved this year, beyond expectations. With one more year, 2 more linebackers, and get our young, speedy D back in tune,,,Dooley and Sunseri might shock all the negavols.
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Your actually comparing Fulmer and Dooley and calling the firing of each the same situation? Really? That is just laughable. Dooley has never won ANYTHING. Your comparing this guy to a hall of fame, national title winning coach?

If you think losing builds stabilty at a place like Tennessee, I would suggest becoming a Vandy fan. No matter the record? Winning DOES MATTER. You can support a losing coach all you want. Recruits still see the loses. They see the product on the field. LOSING hurts recruiting. Blaming fans on a message board is just pathetic.

Dooley was going to "shock" us this year. I will admit I am shocked. I am shocked he is still employed here.
 
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KoachKletus said:
So, what does that put us at? 50-50? 60-40? Whatever. Things remain the same. Some folks want a different coach, some folks think Dooley should be given a 4th year. Put it this way, was it right to oust Fulmer? Some say yes, and some say no. Same situation. Put it this way, the single most important thing UT needs right now is stability. No matter the record, if coach Dooley and this team are given a vote of confidence by the fans and the admin, it should highly reflect on recruiting. What else it may reflect upon is whom come's back next year. Can you imagine what type of team we will have if all of our horses return next season.

Everybody blames Dooley. Perhaps our situation demanded that we not hire a so called winner (kiffin), but one that would build an SEC team, with character, and give him time for a bit of OJT in the SEC. As far as I'm concerned, Dooley is doing it. Our D regressed this year, as what most everybody expected. Our O improved this year, beyond expectations. With one more year, 2 more linebackers, and get our young, speedy D back in tune,,,Dooley and Sunseri might shock all the negavols.
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Pretty much spot on KK... I would place myself in the "nega" camp right now (as I have been ever since the Florida loss) but I don't think it's as ironclad a lock as others do that he's going to get the gate. If CDD wins out, goes to a bowl and wins Hart (who by some accounts doesn't really have the stomach for a coaching search right now...) would have a hard time canning Dooley after posting an 8 win season... Next year, should Dooley get that opportunity, it's going to be a whole new level of expectation. Fans are going to want wins that actually matter and a legitimate toehold in the top 25 (and probably a legit shot at an appearance in Atlanta) before they'll be willing to admit Dooley belongs on the Hill... I hope he pulls all of this off, but from what I've seen so far, he hasn't really given me much to hang my hat on...
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
As most anyone who has seen my posts over the past year knows (since the loss to KY), I've been one who has wanted to cut the cord, and get the HC'ing hire right....sooner, rather than later. I knew Hamilton had gotten us into a mess, hiring a prospect who had no measure of success to commend him to a job of this magnitude. Nevertheless, all the way up to the Bama game, I truly hoped Dooley could break through and prove us all wrong. Before the season started, I actually thought he had the talent to mask his shortcomings as a HC.

Had he been able to hold onto Wilcox, Peter Sirmon and Thompson, I still think he would have pulled it off. Losing to KY was the tipping point. Any how, I say all of that to make this point. Dooley tried, and it's time to move on....most of us agree on that. But please folks, during this time, let's not show our arses by making cruel, disparaging remarks and heckling the guy and his family at games. Let's show a little grace and act with a little dignity in this process.

Even though he is going to be financially rewarded for failing, it still has to be a gut wrenching experience for him and his family. We wouldn't want folks doing this to us, when we happen to fall short of a goal or expectation in our own lives. Let's temper our actions and comments from here on out...agreed?
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I agree with it all except I still think, DD is the man we need, he has mad lots of progress with our team!!! When Kiff left we were down to the bottom of the Sec in all phases of the game and now we are close to the top of the East!!!:peace2:
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
As most anyone who has seen my posts over the past year knows (since the loss to KY), I've been one who has wanted to cut the cord, and get the HC'ing hire right....sooner, rather than later. I knew Hamilton had gotten us into a mess, hiring a prospect who had no measure of success to commend him to a job of this magnitude. Nevertheless, all the way up to the Bama game, I truly hoped Dooley could break through and prove us all wrong. Before the season started, I actually thought he had the talent to mask his shortcomings as a HC.

Had he been able to hold onto Wilcox, Peter Sirmon and Thompson, I still think he would have pulled it off. Losing to KY was the tipping point. Any how, I say all of that to make this point. Dooley tried, and it's time to move on....most of us agree on that. But please folks, during this time, let's not show our arses by making cruel, disparaging remarks and heckling the guy and his family at games. Let's show a little grace and act with a little dignity in this process.

Even though he is going to be financially rewarded for failing, it still has to be a gut wrenching experience for him and his family. We wouldn't want folks doing this to us, when we happen to fall short of a goal or expectation in our own lives. Let's temper our actions and comments from here on out...agreed?
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no, he failed terribly and he is gonna take the money then he should take the critics words as well. the guy is a joke.
 
#75
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mre1237 said:
now we are close to the top of the East!!!:peace2:
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Ummmmm..... No. We're nowhere close right now... If DD gets one more year, does something WITH IT, and Sunseri finally gets the D to understand his scheme we may be onto something, but as it stands today, we are worse than Vandy. Vandy has a league win... We don't.
 
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