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#227
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
BTW, Wichita State won the NIT and was in the NCAAT FF the next year.

SD did make an important point in another post... winning the NIT can be very beneficial for a young team. If a team is loaded with seniors when they win the NIT, then not so much.

Even if the winner is considered #69, out of 351 that's like finishing around #25 in football (out of about 120). It's something to build on.
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That's been the point the entire time; winning the postseason NIT can give the program momentum, or it can have zero effect. SD was adamant that it definitely would give momentum until he was flooded with the evidence then started backtracking and changing what he said in his usual way. Plus remember this started because he first claimed it was better to win the NIT than lose in the first round of the NCAAT.

If he loves the NIT, more power to him. That's his opinion, but he doesn't seem to grasp at how mostly indifferent the college basketball world is to the postseason NIT.
 
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#228
#228
SeniorDrill said:
Let's expose that no matter how long you've been watching you don't know squat. The 2014 tournament had 13 automatic qualifiers that were conference champions who failed to win their tournament. And I'll say it again, 24 of the 32 teams won more than 20 games. There is not another tournament other than the Big Dance itself that comes anywhere close to matching that!!! :lolabove:
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Nothing you posted in anyway disproves what I posted or "exposes" me. You however have exposed yourself pretty well on the fact that you clearly don't understand college basketball.
 
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#229
NIT info, just in case.
The NIT Selection Committee will conduct selections for the 2015 Postseason NIT, March 13-15. Any regular-season champion of an NCAA Division I conference (12 teams in 2014) not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship will secure an automatic qualification into the NIT. The committee will then select the best available teams to fill the 32-team NIT field. Once selected teams are seeded and placed into one of four eight-team regions. There are 345 teams playing Division I basketball.

The first three rounds are played on the highest seeded team's home court and the semifinals and finals move to Madison Square Garden (4 teams left).
In 2014, the fewest wins by an at large team was 17. There were two, Georgetown and West Virginia. The next lowest were 5 teams with 19 wins.

So, as you can see, we have some work to do to even make the NIT. That's 4 more wins based on last year.
 
#231
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SeniorDrill said:
NIT info, just in case.
The NIT Selection Committee will conduct selections for the 2015 Postseason NIT, March 13-15. Any regular-season champion of an NCAA Division I conference (12 teams in 2014) not otherwise selected to the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship will secure an automatic qualification into the NIT. The committee will then select the best available teams to fill the 32-team NIT field. Once selected teams are seeded and placed into one of four eight-team regions. There are 345 teams playing Division I basketball.

The first three rounds are played on the highest seeded team's home court and the semifinals and finals move to Madison Square Garden (4 teams left).
In 2014, the fewest wins by an at large team was 17. There were two, Georgetown and West Virginia. The next lowest were 5 teams with 19 wins.

So, as you can see, we have some work to do to even make the NIT. That's 4 more wins based on last year.
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Based on this it looks like we might be participating in our first ever CBI tournament
 
#236
#236
Thought this would be of interest since most probably don't know the lower tier tournaments:
1. NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship (Big Dance, March Madness)
Created in 1939, 32 Division I conference champions plus 36 at large teams
2. NCAA National Invitation Tournament (NIT, Little Dance)
Created in 1938, any team that won it's Division I regular season championship but lost its tournament (13 teams last year) plus at large bids to make a 32 team field, televised by ESPN, final 4 in Madison Square Garden
3. Gazelle Group College Basketball Invitational Tournament (CBI, May I have this dance? )
Created in 2007, 16 teams that were not selected for the NCAA or NIT, competes directly with CIT but does include major conference schools, championship is best 2 of 3 games.
4. College Insider.com Post Season Tournament (CIT, mid-majors only, majors not invited to this dance)
Created in 2009, 32 teams oriented toward mid-major schools that did not get selected to go to the NCAA or the NIT
 
#237
#237
SeniorDrill said:
Thought this would be of interest since most probably don't know the lower tier tournaments:
1. NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship (Big Dance, March Madness)
Created in 1939, 32 Division I conference champions plus 36 at large teams
2. NCAA National Invitation Tournament (NIT, Little Dance)
Created in 1938, any team that won it's Division I regular season championship but lost its tournament (13 teams last year) plus at large bids to make a 32 team field, televised by ESPN, final 4 in Madison Square Garden
3. Gazelle Group College Basketball Invitational Tournament (CBI, May I have this dance? )
Created in 2007, 16 teams that were not selected for the NCAA or NIT, competes directly with CIT but does include major conference schools, championship is best 2 of 3 games.
4. College Insider.com Post Season Tournament (CIT, mid-majors only, majors not invited to this dance)
Created in 2009, 32 teams oriented toward mid-major schools that did not get selected to go to the NCAA or the NIT
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So...NCAA Tournament, then everything else. Got it.
 
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#238
Doesn't seem like the CBI has been around for seven years already.
 
#241
#241
SeniorDrill said:
Thought this would be of interest since most probably don't know the lower tier tournaments:
1. NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship (Big Dance, March Madness)
Created in 1939, 32 Division I conference champions plus 36 at large teams
2. NCAA National Invitation Tournament (NIT, Little Dance)
Created in 1938, any team that won it's Division I regular season championship but lost its tournament (13 teams last year) plus at large bids to make a 32 team field, televised by ESPN, final 4 in Madison Square Garden
3. Gazelle Group College Basketball Invitational Tournament (CBI, May I have this dance? )
Created in 2007, 16 teams that were not selected for the NCAA or NIT, competes directly with CIT but does include major conference schools, championship is best 2 of 3 games.
4. College Insider.com Post Season Tournament (CIT, mid-majors only, majors not invited to this dance)
Created in 2009, 32 teams oriented toward mid-major schools that did not get selected to go to the NCAA or the NIT
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It's not that nobody knows. It's just nobody cares.
 
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