Lady Vols Softball Coach Karen

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ScreamingEagleVol said:
And with all those accomplishments, not one natty. Zilch. Zero. Glasco didn’t start coaching until the age of 41 for his daughter’s team and may very well win something that has eluded Karen what seems a lifetime. And with less of a glaring resume that you posted. Fire Karen? Nope. But she should take notes.

As for sending the runner home, I guess it’s all about philosophy. Glasco sends his runners to steal home, Karen wouldn’t if given the opportunity. Yeah, sounds like a lack of trust.
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That's fine. You can believe what you want too.
 
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volfan110% said:
Coach Weekly has cost this Team a chance at the National Championship by her decisions in the playoff games. Her decision to hold up the runner at 3rd i the Oklahoma game cost us. Or at least we would of had a chance to score a run. The plays she challenges is another problem she cannot figure out. She should know anybody that is up to bat and is a good hitter with the game on the line with a base open........WALK THEM!
I think we have given her enough Time 20 plus years to get the Natty. Tennessee needs to start looking for a replacement now so we do not have to go through the Phil , Butch, Purit, sagas.
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AAHH you need to have a few more posts before you do one like this.
 
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volfan110% said:
Coach Weekly has cost this Team a chance at the National Championship by her decisions in the playoff games. Her decision to hold up the runner at 3rd i the Oklahoma game cost us. Or at least we would of had a chance to score a run. The plays she challenges is another problem she cannot figure out. She should know anybody that is up to bat and is a good hitter with the game on the line with a base open........WALK THEM!
I think we have given her enough Time 20 plus years to get the Natty. Tennessee needs to start looking for a replacement now so we do not have to go through the Phil , Butch, Purit, sagas.
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Dude you really need to take a break from sports. Sounds like youre on the ledge. Do us all a favor , JUMP!!
 
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volfan110% said:
Coach Weekly has cost this Team a chance at the National Championship by her decisions in the playoff games. Her decision to hold up the runner at 3rd i the Oklahoma game cost us. Or at least we would of had a chance to score a run. The plays she challenges is another problem she cannot figure out. She should know anybody that is up to bat and is a good hitter with the game on the line with a base open........WALK THEM!
I think we have given her enough Time 20 plus years to get the Natty. Tennessee needs to start looking for a replacement now so we do not have to go through the Phil , Butch, Purit, sagas.
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You just had to, eh? 🙄
 

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Difference in playing for it all and watching.

Sac fly to RF. Parker OU comes up throwing home, TTU runner on 3B tagging as the ball is thrown makes it home to win and play for the title. Somehow Mealer rounding 3B is held, doesn’t score.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
Have y'all listened to those two postgame pressers where she clearly explained her reasoning?

If you have, then you can bemoan the outcome, but, at best, any different decision would have been in flip-of-the-coin territory. Her reasoning was logical. The outcomes were regrettable. This ain't chess. Plays still require execution by both teams, and that's how someone emerges a winner.
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I seem to remember a women's basketball coach who made a call to not guard an all American type opponent in much the same type situation. Think she was excused from having to make the same kind of decision at UT again.
 
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Majors said:
Difference in playing for it all and watching.

Sac fly to RF. Parker OU comes up throwing home, TTU runner on 3B tagging as the ball is thrown makes it home to win and play for the title. Somehow Mealer rounding 3B is held, doesn’t score.
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3 things have to happen correctly to throw a runner out at home:

1. Throw to plate from the outfielder or cutoff fielder has to be on target.
2. Catcher has to catch the ball with runner bearing down on you full speed. Its not as easy as you may think.
3. Catcher has to tag runner who is sliding to the outside of the plate to avoid tag.

Metrics show: advantage to the base runner in this situation.

Not 2nd guessing Karen with this post. She had her reason for not sending but metrics show she had the advantage here.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
3 things have to happen correctly to throw a runner out at home:layers

1. Throw to plate from the outfielder or cutoff fielder has to be on target.
2. Catcher has to catch the ball with runner bearing down on you full speed. Its not as easy as you may think.
3. Catcher has to tag runner who is sliding to the outside of the plate to avoid tag.

Metrics show: advantage to the base runner in this situation.

Not 2nd guessing Karen with this post. She had her reason for not sending but metrics show she had the advantage here.
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All I hear about is how great the Sooner players are. I have to believe they can catch and throw. Not sure the metrics differentiate talent levels.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
3 things have to happen correctly to throw a runner out at home:

1. Throw to plate from the outfielder or cutoff fielder has to be on target.
2. Catcher has to catch the ball with runner bearing down on you full speed. Its not as easy as you may think.
3. Catcher has to tag runner who is sliding to the outside of the plate to avoid tag.

Metrics show: advantage to the base runner in this situation.

Not 2nd guessing Karen with this post. She had her reason for not sending but metrics show she had the advantage here.
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Agree. I like Laura’s chances running full speed past the bag already, beating a ball not thrown from the OF. I’ve stated, late in the game I might see the hold. That early in the game, go for the momentum and kill shot.
 
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Rickster said:
All I hear about is how great the Sooner players are. I have to believe they can catch and throw. Not sure the metrics differentiate talent levels.
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And OK may have executed the throw and catch home perfectly and that may have influenced Karen's decision, but just saying the more things that have to happen the more chances it doesn't come off perfect which is why the metrics show advantage base runner.
 
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Karen Weekly has done a great job at Tennessee. Let's give the lady some respect. Put it in perspective, there are a lot of teams trying to win the championship, but ultimately, only one will stand victorious. She is a very good coach, brings in talented players, so maybe she is getting close to bringing home the big trophy.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
Karen Weekly has done a great job at Tennessee. Let's give the lady some respect. Put it in perspective, there are a lot of teams trying to win the championship, but ultimately, only one will stand victorious. She is a very good coach, brings in talented players, so maybe she is getting close to bringing home the big trophy.
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Absolutely!
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
And OK may have executed the throw and catch home perfectly and that may have influenced Karen's decision, but just saying the more things that have to happen the more chances it doesn't come off perfect which is why the metrics show advantage base runner.
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Agree, there are several actions that have to be successfully completed.
 
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savannahfan said:
I seem to remember a women's basketball coach who made a call to not guard an all American type opponent in much the same type situation. Think she was excused from having to make the same kind of decision at UT again.
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I would only disagree that our coach was "excused" from her job because of that one decision. There was a complete body of work and likely a sense that her ceiling had been reached, and that the ceiling needed to be raised to accommodate the importance the UTAD wished to place on women's basketball.

But otherwise, the game time decisions are comparable.

The basketball choices were between contesting the inbounds with a vanilla defense (zone or man-to-man), which would be the most susceptible to special plays designed to create an open, game winning shot opportunity for their best shooters...
or, freeing one defender to provide help against that play happening, by not guarding the one S.Carolina player on the court who was statistically and experientially least likely by far to beat you on that play.

Any good, humanity-affirming sport will reward individual performance over statistical probability. Everything about that decision makes logical, rational, statistical sense... except for the outcome. But we didn't fail--their player succeeded. And games that allow that are games worth playing and watching.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
I would only disagree that our coach was "excused" from her job because of that one decision. There was a complete body of work and likely a sense that her ceiling had been reached, and that the ceiling needed to be raised to accommodate the importance the UTAD wished to place on women's basketball.

But otherwise, the game time decisions are comparable.

The basketball choices were between contesting the inbounds with a vanilla defense (zone or man-to-man), which would be the most susceptible to special plays designed to create an open, game winning shot opportunity for their best shooters...
or, freeing one defender to provide help against that play happening, by not guarding the one S.Carolina player on the court who was statistically and experientially least likely by far to beat you on that play.

Any good, humanity-affirming sport will reward individual performance over statistical probability. Everything about that decision makes logical, rational, statistical sense... except for the outcome. But we didn't fail--their player succeeded. And games that allow that are games worth playing and watching.
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Right!

Coach Karen was in the Final Four yesterday.

Love her to death, but the only way Coach Kellie reaches a Final Four will be to buy a ticket.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Wouldn't think there are many active in the southeast.

IMO, elite softball is still one of those gritty southwest type sports.
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UCLA (12 wins) and Arizona (8) ruled back in the day. Then came Oklahoma (8) and Gasso.

Past WCWS championship coaches are:

Mike Candrea (ret.), Arizona (8)
Sharron Backus (ret.), UCLA (8)
Patty Gasso, Oklahoma (8)
Sue Enquist (ret.), UCLA (3)
Inouye-Perez, UCLA (2)
Tim Walton, Florida (2)
Bob Brock (ret.), Texas A&M (2)
Clint Myers (ret.), Arizona St. (2)
Heather Tarr, Washington (1)
Carol Hutchins (ret.), Michigan (1)
Diane Ninemire (ret.), California (1)
Margie Wright (ret.), Fresno State (1)
Judi Garman (ret.), Cal St Fullerton (1)
Lonni Alameda, FSU (1)
Patrick Murphy, Alabama (1)

(current) SEC coaches have 3 of them. Bolded lines are those west and southwest coaches.
 
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savannahfan said:
I seem to remember a women's basketball coach who made a call to not guard an all American type opponent in much the same type situation. Think she was excused from having to make the same kind of decision at UT again.
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She wasn’t fired for that alone. I said it at the time- one missed or made shot shouldn’t determine the coach’s job status. Of course, it’s the body of work. Like everyone else’s job status.
 
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Rickster said:
UCLA (12 wins) and Arizona (8) ruled back in the day. Then came Oklahoma (8) and Gasso.

Past WCWS championship coaches are:

Mike Candrea (ret.), Arizona (8)
Sharron Backus (ret.), UCLA (8)
Patty Gasso, Oklahoma (8)
Sue Enquist (ret.), UCLA (3)
Inouye-Perez, UCLA (2)
Tim Walton, Florida (2)
Bob Brock (ret.), Texas A&M (2)
Clint Myers (ret.), Arizona St. (2)
Heather Tarr, Washington (1)
Carol Hutchins (ret.), Michigan (1)
Diane Ninemire (ret.), California (1)
Margie Wright (ret.), Fresno State (1)
Judi Garman (ret.), Cal St Fullerton (1)
Lonni Alameda, FSU (1)
Patrick Murphy, Alabama (1)

(current) SEC coaches have 3 of them. Bolded lines are those west and southwest coaches.
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That is extremely interesting! If my math is right, 42 championship teams with only five from east of the Mississippi river.

Why doesn't eastern half of USA excel in softball?

As I recall, under age 18 southern girls mostly played slow pitch softball until probably mid-90's?
 
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