Kellie Harper discussion/debate thread [merged]

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Hoosier said:
you are hereby ignored -- bye
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Anyone that has Hoosier for a name should also be ignored on a Vol site. You are hereby ignored by a Vol fan for life.

I was just stating the obvious. You must not be watching the same **** show the rest of us have been watching to get us to 2-4. We as Vol fans deserve better. This is a proud program that has had nothing but success. We deserve someone that can get us there.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
At the press conference introducing her as the next head coach at Tennessee, Fulmer cited the fact that Kellie Jolly Harper was on 3 of Pat Summitt's National Championship teams, as a factor in why she was hired.

Apparently, the fact that she had previously been fired from NC State was never factored into the equation. Fulmer also acknowledged that, in spite of some public angling for a raise that Jeff Walz of Louisville had done, nobody else was ever considered. She was his first choice. Why? Just because she was successful as a player 20 years earlier? An athletic director at Tennessee should be more ambitious than that when hiring a women's basketball coach.
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I recall a huge backlash on social media when Walz's name came up, with many LV fans declaring they would boycott the games if he was hired. Anyway, Fulmer took the lazy way out that made him look good to the populist in the fanbase: hiring a former Lady Vol player who happened to be a head coach. This despite having a sporadic record at her first stop, then failing miserably at a P5 program. Only a Cinderella Sweet 16 run at a mid-major salvaged her career.

Kellie was one of my favorite players, and I want her to succeed. But the slop being dished out proves otherwise, and the fact her teams still have the same old problems proves she's in over her head here.
 
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Rickster said:
No but it does make you look like him.....
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Bill O'Brien?
 
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xtpsrh08123 said:
The question is when does necessary become a specific time. During the season or at the end ? I think we let her finish it out then make a decision . Firing her during the season won't make anything better , were doomed.
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Wtf? Really? Pretty huge challenge she’s accepted. Huge influx of personalities. I’m sure she cyphered how difficult this would be, plus said, sure…throw OSU in there…
 
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Cudaman340 said:
I recall a huge backlash on social media when Walz's name came up, with many LV fans declaring they would boycott the games if he was hired. Anyway, Fulmer took the lazy way out that made him look good to the populist in the fanbase: hiring a former Lady Vol player who happened to be a head coach. This despite having a sporadic record at her first stop, then failing miserably at a P5 program. Only a Cinderella Sweet 16 run at a mid-major salvaged her career.

Kellie was one of my favorite players, and I want her to succeed. But the slop being dished out proves otherwise, and the fact her teams still have the same old problems proves she's in over her head here.
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I think we can all agree on that.

She returned from an ACL tear to help lead us to a National Title in 1997. There is no way we win it in '97 without her. Laurie Milligan was a turnover machine, who couldn't shoot ... and the next season she was the starting PG on the best team we've ever had. She had 20 points in the Championship Game vs Louisiana Tech.

For all of that, she deserves to be regarded as one of our very best players ... but she shouldn't be the head coach of this program. She will have to be fired at some point. I would like for it to happen before we sink to the bottom of the SEC.
 
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Amb3096 said:
I just saw that when I rewatched the end of the game. Yeah, that was uncalled for. Her behavior after the losses has been atrocious, and she needs to learn how to win AND lose with some class.
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That can't be right. Kellie has completely changed the culture, it's why she is so selective in which players she recruits and which transfers she allows to join the team...
 
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xtpsrh08123 said:
The question is when does necessary become a specific time. During the season or at the end ? I think we let her finish it out then make a decision . Firing her during the season won't make anything better , were doomed.
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Yeah she will be allowed to finish the season unless the team completely craters a la Butch Jones, which at this point I'm not putting out of the realm of possibility...
 
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chuckiepoo said:
I’ll admit, I checked the next three game stretch. Building chemistry, check. Competitive, check. Would really suck if Kellie pulled a Pat out of her behind, eh?
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LOL the only thing Kellie is pulling out of her behind is that lame excuse in her postgame conference about why she didn't advance the ball that she couldn't even explain...
 
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Darth_Vol said:
LOL the only thing Kellie is pulling out of her behind is that lame excuse in her postgame conference about why she didn't advance the ball that she couldn't even explain...
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Someone on her staff needs to assume a position of competence. Just takes one brilliant mind that can project the required vision.
 
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Chippo said:
I think it should be staff changes ,, including
her husband.
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Defining moment in her career... Does Jon fall on the sword or do they both walk away. Obstacles of hiring a married couple, if you fire one you technically fire both because of animosity.
 
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Memvol44 said:
She has earned at least 2 more years....
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How so? 2-4 this year, no 2023 commits, biggest recruit in the 2022 class is the 13th off the bench, #2 player in the nation is from Tennessee and headed elsewhere by all indications, built team on her portal evaluations to win now, staff is questionable due to lack of production by units. I keep going back to Kellie isn't a new coach, she got her "lessons learned" out of the way at NC State.
 
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Majors said:
How so? 2-4 this year, no 2023 commits, biggest recruit in the 2022 class is the 13th off the bench, #2 player in the nation is from Tennessee and headed elsewhere by all indications, built team on her portal evaluations to win now, staff is questionable due to lack of production by units. I keep going back to Kellie isn't a new coach, she got her "lessons learned" out of the way at NC State.
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We will agree to disagree...
 
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Memvol44 said:
I still believe in Kellie,so do those players!
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Yeah they really do thats why we cant get key to play hard anymore or the reason Rickea jackson walked away in disgust by her lonesome as the buzzer sounded to yet another loss. Or how about Kellie and her husband having temper tantrums with each other on the bench ? It's giving you and a few fans still believe in her only im sorry just my opinion. Im not sorry nvm lol
 
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Rickster said:
Still amazing how a troll can read a persons mind just by looking at their facial expression or how they move.
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Coaches getting heated in timeouts w/each other as one poster said yesterday and Rickea Jackson walking off the court after losing is pretty telling. (Not the first time after a loss she has shown her frustrations, just this time she left instead of doing the handshake line)

Cant be a troll if it happened.... just observation being brought up.
 
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