Kavanaugh Confirmation

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volinbham said:
Hearing tomorrow should go on as planned. I'm sure questions from the allegations will make their way into the K questioning.

Swetnick and Ramirez should give sworn testimony to the committee in some form. Vote should be delayed a reasonable amount of time (1 week?) to provide this opportunity.

If 1, 2 or all 3 have sufficient credibility after testifying to the committee then an FBI investigation is ordered or K drops out.
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And even if they don't have credibility, if you delay, then right before a scheduled vote, another accuser pops up from his middle school days and we'll have to give them a chance to smear his reputation.
 
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The wording in this is interesting. She "became aware" of an "effort" by Kavanaugh to spike the punch? Wut?

And she knows that when she saw Judge and Kavanaugh standing in a hallway, it was obviously because they were waiting their turn to get in on a gang bang. Lol.

This is a huge nothing-burger. What a joke.
 
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BeecherVol said:
- Found it interesting that this recollection was over roughly a 3 year span (81'.82' and 83')
- She was aware that Judge and Kavanaugh were secretly using drugs and alcohol to subdue females in 81' and 82' to "gang rape" them. This caused her to purposefully stay away from the punch that had been spiked.
- She has a pretty vivid description of boys lining up outside of rooms for their turn.
- Then at some point in 82' she was a victim of this drugging and was gang raped.

Credibility questions that I would have.

1. Given the detail in which you have described these boys intentions and successes to drug and rape unwilling girls at these party's (multiple occasions) was there every a sense of urgency on your part to report it? Would you consider it wrong if you didn't knowing people were being raped and how that was actually happening?

2. Was there ever a point where you thought (considering this wasn't 1 party or instance) that if Im not going to report this or at least advise those that were being raped as to what was happening to them, Im not gonna be a victim of this?

3. Give the years you listed, (81', 82' and 83') as the years you attended over 10 parties. Is it safe to assume since your recollection of your rape was in 82', that you continued to attend these parties even after that event?
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I just reread it - she says "in approximately 1982" I was gang raped. I can see not knowing the exact date but not knowing the time of year or even the year?
 
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evillawyer said:
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Interesting, but none of the major outlets (CNN, fox, WaPo, nytimes) are running this story yet. Wonder if there's something fishy going on here (Avenatti getting trolled?).
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Presumably because this "story" was pitched to news outlets and even it couldn't even pass their own low standards. Avenatti has no standards and will do anyting to get himself face time.
 
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evillawyer said:
I don't know how you just ignore these unless the GOP can immediately shoot her down as a fraud with some hard evidence.
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Well it's he said/she said so all it takes to counter the allegations is to say "No, it didn't happen." Carries the same weight. This si nothing but bull **** and anyone with a single brain cell knows it.
 
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evillawyer said:
I don't know how you just ignore these unless the GOP can immediately shoot her down as a fraud with some hard evidence.
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Well here is a good read for you:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/eight-big-problems-for-christine-blasey-fords-story/

All of her "witnesses" denied what she said. Hard enough evidence? Her therapist notes dont match her story. Hard enough evidence? She can't remember what house, what time of the year, what time of the day, or what flipping year it happened. She cant even remember her age..and this is the "most traumatic experience of her life"..Hard enough evidence for ya? All of her supporters come from her husbands side of the family. Weird that her immediate family isnt involved. Hard enough for ya yet?

Seriously. A what point do you tell yourself "ok, this is all BS". Are you incapable because this is a woman claiming sexual harassment (at best) and you have some misplaced misogynistic chivalry ideology attached to this? Your support of this literally says that you are fine with anyone claiming anything happened to them at anytime with ZERO facts or hard evidence and being allowed to levy those charges against a person at their whim. I assume you're a dude. Remember that girl/guy who liked you in high school but you didn't reciprocate the feelings? Remember when you sexually assaulted them at that party that one time? See how thats done?
 
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volinbham said:
I just reread it - she says "in approximately 1982" I was gang raped. I can see not knowing the exact date but not knowing the time of year or even the year?
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See these are the things I have a serious issue with , all of us have experienced a traumatic event , some were worse than others . The problem I have is someone not remembering this event not so much every detail but the place it happened , the month ( maybe ) but you can’t remeber the exact year such a horrible event like gang rape happened to you ? Not rational . I can remember my first time , where it was at , who it was with and I’m a guy that can’t remember what I walked into a room to get sometimes .
 
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evillawyer said:
So, how do Swetnick allegations change the landscape? Initial thoughts?
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Well based on what I saw that was specifically accusations against Kavanaugh in that statement I officially go on record that I will not now nor in the future submit my name for nomination to the Supreme Court of the United States.

I saw very little actual accusations against Kavanaugh. I did see a huge amount of inferred bad behavior. I saw zero first hand accusations of rape or discounting his claim of his virginity (but again it was stupid for him to even say that). My first question to her on her account would be did she at least witness first hand of Kavanaugh going into one of these rooms where a submissive female was known to be

You really want us to lower the bar on our proof levels. You’re going to be disappointed I think in that regard unless she is interviewed on her statement.

And finally I’d submit they pissed away their chance. The vote needs to go forward enough with the delays. This is a play to keep ANY appointee of Trump off the court at the start of its next session. Again if they don’t participate in arguments they can’t vote. That’s the play. Delay any appointee participation until at least after midterms in hopes of a miracle.
 
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volinbham said:
I just reread it - she says "in approximately 1982" I was gang raped. I can see not knowing the exact date but not knowing the time of year or even the year?
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Given the detail she gave as to how this was being pulled off it would seem that it would be something that could be nailed down better.

Even at that, its very odd that this was known before hand, its still happened to her, and apparently given the years she listed she continue to attend parties after all that.
 
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txbo said:
She hasn't put much on the line. Getting a perjury conviction on a recollection from 35 years ago is damn near impossible.
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She will never be called on any of this unless she perjures herself in direct testimony. Even then they will use kid gloves. She has zero exposure here.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
She will never be called on any of this unless she perjures herself in direct testimony. Even then they will use kid gloves. She has zero exposure here.
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And how do you disprove it? She's not specific on dates. She's just telling a story that can't be proven either way.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
She will never be called on any of this unless she perjures herself in direct testimony. Even then they will use kid gloves. She has zero exposure here.
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Yeah but.... this isn't a trial according to Evil. Are there any real consequences to perjury? She'll be in a room where there are more lies told on any given day than in the entire rest of the country.
 
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Mick said:
Let me guess you saw that picture of the person crying and saw a picture of a Puss hat, put two and two together and came up with that response?

This is your safe place is the irony.
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The fact that you posted that proved that wrong, amigo.
 
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