Kavanaugh Confirmation

[Mick]

I'm waiting to hear Ford testify. I begin with a presumption of innocence (weird I know). I'll let you know where I am after I see it but for now I don't think what's been provided publicly (and not corroborated) passes the bar of preponderance of evidence. I am open to changing my mind.

Sounds like your mind is made up. As I said.

 

[volinbham]

the hardest thing for Senators will be to decide how much time for grandstanding vs how much time for asking questions. 5 minutes severely limits theatric opportunities.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Statement he allegedly made to his roommate. Plus the Renate alumni meaning is just pure speculation as to it's meaning.

Difference between may and allegedly?

 

[volinbham]

Sounds like your mind is made up. As I said.

I'm simply going on what is public along with a general presumption of innocence and bar of preponderance of evidence. Given we are about to get more information I think that's entirely reasonable.

How about you?

 

[txbo]

Can’t wait for Kavanaugh to be confirmed on Friday. Come Monday, women will be having back alley abortions, and soon the gays will all be rounded up and sent to Mexico.

I have a huge box full of coat hangers to donate to the cause.

 

[golfballs]

Sounds like your mind is made up. As I said.

Hey commie, there’s a thing in America. It’s called the presumption of innocence.

 

[NEVolFan]

Interesting, Katz’ has a long career involving sex scandals in politics. Back in 1998, when Paula Jones made a complaint about then-President Bill Clinton, Jones suggested Clinton called her to his hotel room alone and that’s when Clinton exposed himself. After Jones rejected his advances, Clinton made intimidating comments. Katz’s response is quite interesting:

Katz dismissed Jones’ assertions on March 30th,1998 on CNN’s “Talkback Live” saying that, “Paula Jones’ suit is very, very, very weak. She’s alleged one incident that took place in a hotel room that, by her own testimony, lasted 10 to 12 minutes. She suffered no repercussions in the workplace.”
Likewise, Katz again said on CBS’ Evening News on April 2nd, 1998 that Jones’ allegation could not hold up in court because, “Clearly a one-time incident that took place in 10 to 12 minutes, she was not forced to have sex, she left on her own volition, the courts increasingly are finding that that is not enough to create a sexually hostile work environment claim.”​

 

[Mick]

I'm simply going on what is public along with a general presumption of innocence and bar of preponderance of evidence. Given we are about to get more information I think that's entirely reasonable.

How about you?

Do you realize how much doubt you have been trying to shade on this thread today? Almost entirely on the accuser(s). Not one time have you doubted the accused.

 

[Mick]

Hey commie, there’s a thing in America. It’s called the presumption of innocence.

Would be applicable in a court.

 

[Squints]

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Some red state Dems have not taken an official stance and there are multiple grounds for a vote no. As you know, almost all Dems were a no prior to this coming out on ideological grounds (Roe, executive power, etc), because Kavanaugh is a political operative in sheep's clothing, or lied/dissembled during questioning.

So basically Dems are using their emotions instead of actual judiciary record to make decisions? Seems legit and follows the Dems thinking process. Congrats.

 

[volinbham]

Do you realize how much doubt you have been trying to shade on this thread today? Almost entirely on the accuser(s). Not one time have you doubted the accused.

It's a message board. People naturally counter other's arguments. There's plenty of evidence throughout the thread where I've corrected statements made against Ford.

I can't change your mind if you don't believe me but I'm telling you where I'm at. I'd say I'm like Murkowski. Let's hear from the accuser and accused but in the mean time I haven't heard enough to say he's guilty or even likely guilty.

Where you at?

 

[1972 Grad]

Would be applicable in a court.

So, he is considered guilty even before anyone has testified under oath against him, and no police report, and no corroborating witnesses?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

So now they’re dictating which news outlets get to cover the hearing?

Let me guess. CNN and MSNBC are definitely on the approved list.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Sounds like your mind is made up. As I said.

Sounds like your acknowledging there is really no evidence that K assaulted Ford.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

So, he is considered guilty even before anyone has testified under oath against him, and no police report, and no corroborating witnesses?

Of course. Thats how it goes these days when the Dems are on the attack.

 

[Mick]

Let me guess. CNN and MSNBC are definitely on the approved list.

Bummer! The National Review didn't make it.

 

[Mick]

Sounds like your acknowledging there is really no evidence that K assaulted Ford.

You need a semen soaked dress?

 

[InVOLuntary]

It's a message board. People naturally counter other's arguments. There's plenty of evidence throughout the thread where I've corrected statements made against Ford.

I can't change your mind if you don't believe me but I'm telling you where I'm at. I'd say I'm like Murkowski. Let's hear from the accuser and accused but in the mean time I haven't heard enough to say he's guilty or even likely guilty.

Where you at?

Quit! You're giving him a headache.

 

[InVOLuntary]

You need a semen soaked dress?

Offer it up? Where's the evidence? Go ahead. I'm listening.

 

[volinbham]

You need a semen soaked dress?

where you at on the situation? At this point do you lean innocent or guilty? why?

 

[BeecherVol]

Do you realize how much doubt you have been trying to shade on this thread today? Almost entirely on the accuser(s). Not one time have you doubted the accused.

Irony is consuming this post. Choking out it's very existence.

 

[Mick]

where you at on the situation? At this point do you lean innocent or guilty? why?

I think its possible that she is FOS but not probable.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

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[volinbham]

I think its possible that she is FOS but not probable.

so at this point you think he's guilty