Kamara hurt

So you think Holcombe knew that Kamara's left foot was going to plant at the exact moment of impact?

What else would he have expected? He land on his head? He turn him for a cartwheel? Still don't excuse a late hit out of bounds!
 
So you think Holcombe knew that Kamara's left foot was going to plant at the exact moment of impact?

That's exactly why late hits are dangerous. When a guy gives up on the play and goes out of bounds, he's not prepared to take a hit.
 
He intentionally launched himself into his thigh for no reason.

He was trying to knock him out of bounds. That is a pretty good reason.

And you sitting here saying it may be a late hit but it's not dirty makes you sound ridiculous.

Maybe we disagree on the definition of "dirty" in this context. Given that Holcombe did not intentionally hurt Kamara, nor did he hit him in such a way as to indicate disregard, it's not dirty. If all penalties are inevitably "dirty" in your way of thinking, then okay. We are operating with different contexts.

That's like saying I can rob a bank but I'm not a criminal.

I'm not sure it's possible to rob a bank without realizing you're robbing a bank.

It was intentional watch him pull his arms toward his body as he launches.

Why is that a problem?
 
All I get out of this guy is... hey you can truck a guy standing on the sideline as long as he don't get hurt. If he does get hurt, then wow that's too bad for the guy, but hey it's part of football!
 
He was trying to knock him out of bounds. That is a pretty good reason.



Maybe we disagree on the definition of "dirty" in this context. Given that Holcombe did not intentionally hurt Kamara, nor did he hit him in such a way as to indicate disregard, it's not dirty. If all penalties are inevitably "dirty" in your way of thinking, then okay. We are operating with different contexts.



I'm not sure it's possible to rob a bank without realizing you're robbing a bank.



Why is that a problem?

Have you ever been speared on a football field?
 
That's exactly why late hits are dangerous. When a guy gives up on the play and goes out of bounds, he's not prepared to take a hit.

Kamara gave up at the exact moment Holcombe left his feet. He hadn't even notably slowed down.
 
You can't say he was trying to knock him out of bounds after you just said Alvin was a foot and a half out of bounds.
 
All I get out of this guy is... hey you can truck a guy standing on the sideline as long as he don't get hurt. If he does get hurt, then wow that's too bad for the guy, but hey it's part of football!

Not remotely what I said.

And this coming from the guy who wished injury on a player by name.
 
Not remotely what I said.

And this coming from the guy who wished injury on a player by name.

Wouldn't really matter to me if it was him specifically, he was the first name that came to mind. Might not have been what you said directly, but that's what you are coming across as saying.
 
He was not out of bounds when Holcombe left his feet. He was out of bounds when Holcombe made contact. This is not complicated.

Holcombe's left foot is still on the ground. Tell me where Kamara is.
 

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