Josh Dobbs - NFL Draft thread (merged)

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I'm rooting for Dobbs to get a chance in the NFL and see his full potential. With him now able to focus 100% on football and actually have a real QB coach I think the sky is the limit for Dobbs. I just hope he gets drafted by a team with a front office that has a brain.

I would love to see him go to KC because Reid gets the best out of his QB's and he can sit and learn for a year or two before they can Alex Smith. Or the Arizona Cardinals. palmer is getting old and Bruce Arians is a QB guru like Reid is. Houston is another one with Bill O Brian. They need a QB also now with whiffing on Romo.
 
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wmcovol said:
Tebow's throwing motion is all jacked up for NFL. By the time his windup is finished and he releases the ball, all 6 DBs on the field and 2 off the bench are there waiting for it. About all he could do was throw the deep bomb like he did to beat Pittsburgh.

Dobbs throwing motion is much better.
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lol 20 yard bomb
 
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Nasavol said:
I have been as critical as anyone of JD's passing abilities, however, it does seem that he is generating some buzz right now and that only bodes well for UT. I hope he goes into the league and tears it up, but, if I was drafting him, he would be about my 8th choice.
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Does it? The fact he's improving after coming OFF of our roster? Or has he been working with Canales?
 
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Let's stop trashing Dobbs! He overachieved he wasn't coach by Cut! The Goat Peyton and T martin was coached by him! In a couple weeks of practice he looked great with an actually paid qb coach at the SR bowl. He is bring great advertising to UT! Let thank him and hope he goes high in the draft. Thanks! That's my rant!
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
The scouts are slowly coming around to what I've known about since Dobbs became the full time starter at Tennessee. That he's a superstar NFL talent.

So I'm slowly coming around to them in turn.
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I hope he makes a team but him becoming a superstar talent is an extremely remote possibility. That's closer to anything resembling the truth than the delusional crap you're posting. Don't get wrong, I am pulling for him. That being said, it's highly unlikely he'll ever be a regular starter in the NFL
 
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Vol Catdaddy said:
Let's stop trashing Dobbs! He overachieved he wasn't coach by Cut! The Goat Peyton and T martin was coached by him! In a couple weeks of practice he looked great with an actually paid qb coach at the SR bowl. He is bring great advertising to UT! Let thank him and hope he goes high in the draft. Thanks! That's my rant!
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No one is trashing him, Son. Just because informed adults know better doesn't mean he is being trashed. Everyone is pulling for him. We just need to be realistic
 
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114VOL said:
No one is trashing him, Son. Just because informed adults know better doesn't mean he is being trashed. Everyone is pulling for him. We just need to be realistic
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Exactly, I want to be wrong about Dobbs. I just don't see him making pro bowls or even starting regularly.
 
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114VOL said:
No one is trashing him, Son. Just because informed adults know better doesn't mean he is being trashed. Everyone is pulling for him. We just need to be realistic
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Do you have a rebuttal for what I said? son? Get that thong out of your arse.
 
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bamawriter said:
Hurd made some bad decisions. He clearly listens to the wrong people.

That said, he was the worst starting running back in the SEC last year, and one of the worst in the entire country (literally Bottom 10). That's not because of his brain, that's because of his lack of talent.
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Did he lack talent in 2015 when he was selected second team All-SEC? Did he lack talent last year in August when Mel Kiper had him as his 3rd rated RB prospect in the 2017 draft after Fournette and Cook?

The revisionist history on Hurd is getting ridiculous now. Sure I was higher on him than most. But to say he lacked talent is asinine. He was a consensus top 5ish RB in the country going into the 2016 season. He was easily the best or second best offensive player on the team in 2015. He had John Gruden comparing him to Eddie George in the bowl game against Northwestern.

Jalen Hurd lacks many things. Humility, intelligence, patience, empathy, etc. Talent isn't one of them.
 
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Some of you would rather Dobbs be horrible to be right about bashing him for years and to make D4h look bad than him be successful and drafted in a good position which would help him and the program.

Y'all are sad. He had a great workout as reported by all there and y'all try to act like it didn't happen.

It's pitiful y'all would rather be right than for UT to look good.
 
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k-town_king said:
Some of you would rather Dobbs be horrible to be right about bashing him for years and to make D4h look bad than him be successful and drafted in a good position which would help him and the program.

Y'all are sad. He had a great workout as reported by all there and y'all try to act like it didn't happen.

It's pitiful y'all would rather be right than for UT to look good.
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I just don't see people doing that. People may have their doubts about Dobbs, but I think everybody respects him and would be happy for the guy if somebody took a chance on him in the middle rounds.
 
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GAVol said:
I just don't see people doing that. People may have their doubts about Dobbs, but I think everybody respects him and would be happy for the guy if somebody took a chance on him in the middle rounds.
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I respect people opinion like yours, but when you can't rebuttal or give grounds for your opinion you have no grounds for your argument. Just don't say this player sucks with no in depth reason. The Facts are Dobbs didn't have a paid QB Coach! Facts are QB coaches in the sr. bowl stated that he has a chance. He performed well at the combine and some said he out performed Watson. He didn't have a Oline while here! Josh was 22-9 as a starter and over 60% in completions! Do you get my point.
 
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GAVol said:
I just don't see people doing that. People may have their doubts about Dobbs, but I think everybody respects him and would be happy for the guy if somebody took a chance on him in the middle rounds.
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Well you must be blind. Anytime someone post a positive story guys can't wait to shout how bad Dobbs is, how he can't pass, how he won't be drafted or will be drafted in the 6th or 7th.

No matter the stats that prove them wrong, or the good workouts and Sr Bowl performance people bash him. A draft expert speaks highly of him and people bash the expert and whoever posted it.

Everyone sees it. The only ones trying to act like it doesn't happen are the guys with the agendas doing all the bashing.
 
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k-town_king said:
Well you must be blind. Anytime someone post a positive story guys can't wait to shout how bad Dobbs is, how he can't pass, how he won't be drafted or will be drafted in the 6th or 7th.

No matter the stats that prove them wrong, or the good workouts and Sr Bowl performance people bash him. A draft expert speaks highly of him and people bash the expert and whoever posted it.

Everyone sees it. The only ones trying to act like it doesn't happen are the guys with the agendas doing all the bashing.
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I'm just saying it like it is. This QB class is not good.
 
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k-town_king said:
Well you must be blind. Anytime someone post a positive story guys can't wait to shout how bad Dobbs is, how he can't pass, how he won't be drafted or will be drafted in the 6th or 7th.

No matter the stats that prove them wrong, or the good workouts and Sr Bowl performance people bash him. A draft expert speaks highly of him and people bash the expert and whoever posted it.

Everyone sees it. The only ones trying to act like it doesn't happen are the guys with the agendas doing all the bashing.
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Some of that may be happening, but a lot of it is reaction to D4H's obvious shtick.
 
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GAVol said:
Some of that may be happening, but a lot of it is reaction to D4H's shtick.
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It's ALL reaction to D4H and a simple disagreement with his ridiculousness. Unfortunately, Dobbs is the pawn here. Nobody wishes Josh anything but the best, just disagree that he's a day one starter, future NFL superstar and surefire 1st Rd pick later this month.
 
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GAVol said:
Some of that may be happening, but a lot of it is reaction to D4H's obvious shtick.
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I know that is part of it. That is my point. It seems so many are hung up on a poster that they are unfairly bashing a great ambassador to our program. It's sad that it seems some want Dobbs to fail or deny any of his good attributes just to prove a poster wrong. Are they bigger UT fans or D4H haters? It seems they are less fan and more hater.
 
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https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/t...-believes-joshua-dobbs-go-high-round-2-draft/

A few months ago most on here were citing Mel Kiper Jr. and many other analysts that said Dobbs would be a 6th-7th round pick. I said hold on. The draft process was only beginning. That NFL people had not yet even started properly evaluating guys like Dobbs. And I predicted that Dobbs would improve his draft stock tremendously by performing well at the senior bowl, the combine, and his pro day.

I said in the end he would be viewed as a solid 3rd round prospect and that at least one team would fall in love with him and take him earlier than most in the 2nd round. Looks like that scenario is playing itself out right now.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Did he lack talent in 2015 when he was selected second team All-SEC?
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Yes. He was simply given the ball enough times to put up decent numbers. He ranked 18th in the conference in terms of yards per carry.

Did he lack talent last year in August when Mel Kiper had him as his 3rd rated RB prospect in the 2017 draft after Fournette and Cook?
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Is this a situation where Kiper is right when you want to prove a point? Either Kiper knows what he's talking about or he doesn't.

Either way, yes, Kiper was wrong, as evidenced by the fact that Hurd is not even in the 2017 draft pool, and wouldn't be drafted if he were.

The revisionist history on Hurd is getting ridiculous now. Sure I was higher on him than most. But to say he lacked talent is asinine.
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No, your insane praise of him was asinine. Hurd was producing diminishing returns each year despite improved line play. No one could have reasonably predicted that he would fall off a cliff in 2016, but it was a more likely scenario than your predictions of greatness.

He was a consensus top 5ish RB in the country going into the 2016 season.
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He shouldn't have been. It's easy to say in hindsight, but we all should have looked at his production between 2014 and '15 and seen that the trend line was pointing down.

He was easily the best or second best offensive player on the team in 2015.
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No. He was the second-most productive. That's because he was given the ball a lot. He barely eclipsed Dobbs' yards per carry (4.65 vs 4.6) and Dobbs had sack yardage taken out.

He had John Gruden comparing him to Eddie George in the bowl game against Northwestern.
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That comparison is beyond absurd.

Jalen Hurd lacks many things. Humility, intelligence, patience, empathy, etc. Talent isn't one of them.
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I repeat: he was the worst starting running back in the SEC, and in the Bottom 10 nationwide.
 
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k-town_king said:
I know that is part of it. That is my point. It seems so many are hung up on a poster that they are unfairly bashing a great ambassador to our program. It's sad that it seems some want Dobbs to fail or deny any of his good attributes just to prove a poster wrong. Are they bigger UT fans or D4H haters? It seems they are less fan and more hater.
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Disagreeing with D4H and actually giving a reasonable opinion on Josh is not bashing him.
 
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