Jeremy Banks needs to be dismissed

[Rooster1]

I'm just really hoping this thread dies and some other topic pops off.

JC 1/3 of the thread is all you.

 

[Jax_Vol]

I agree that theres different levels to the idea.

1. "eh, nothing to it at all, everybody should just forget about it, he's just a kid, Play Ball!"
2. "It was stupid and reckless and Pruitt should make sure he knows as much, but I don't think he should be suspended or dismissed"
3. "It was a terrible set of comments and actions. He should be immediately dismissed from the team and Id be fine with him being criminally charged with the threat."

#1 is the only one that pretty much removes any sense of it not being the right thing to do.
#2 Acknowledges the action as stupid, but also allows for a level of defense from the standpoint of allowing him a second chance.
#3 is the only idea that totally takes away any sense of someone defending or diminishing it on any level.

There may be a couple more but most everyone with an opinion falls under 1 of those groups.

Im not going to speculate on what that makes them as a person.

I vote for #1. Let's have a poll.

 

[Behr]

I'm just really hoping this thread dies and some other topic pops off.

 

[Vol8188]

Wouldn't someone need to do more than threaten someone to be considered "a thug"?

Or is he a thug because of the illegal uturn and unpaid ticket?

Threatening a female seems very thug like to me

 

[Vol8188]

In Tennessee, a threat can be prosecuted as assault if one "intentionally or knowingly causes another to reasonably fear imminent bodily injury". T.C.A. 39-13-101(a)(2)

There's no reasonable fear of imminent bodily injury from someone handcuffed in the back of a police car, so the cops couldn't have charged him for what he said even if he'd been more explicit instead of just insinuating.

That said, it's a bad look for Banks and the Vols, and I hope he will exercise better judgement going forward. I also hope we're not seeing the start of a pattern from Pruitt's recruits. You shouldn't have to do legal research to discuss Vols football.

What you’re saying couldn’t be any more false.

1. If he said “I’m going to kill all of you next week” that’s a threat.

2. He literally says “wait till you get these cuffs off me”

 

[Behr]

What you’re saying couldn’t be any more false.

1. If he said “I’m going to kill all of you next week” that’s a threat.

2. He literally says “wait till you get these cuffs off me”

"If I did it" doesn't mean I actually did it.

 

[m1al]

I’m certainly all for another topic. We’ve rung this ones neck and everybody is still in their respective camps.

Careful what you ask for though. Hopefully the next topic will be nothing more than a reaction to the Georgia game.

Oh God..... Careful what you ask for....

 

[Quaint88]

What you’re saying couldn’t be any more false.

1. If he said “I’m going to kill all of you next week” that’s a threat.

2. He literally says “wait till you get these cuffs off me”

I didn't say it wasn't a threat. My post was about whether it rose to the level of an actionable offense under Tennessee law. What part of my post "couldn't be any more false"?

 

[volfannbama]

I didn't say it wasn't a threat. My post was about whether it rose to the level of an actionable offense under Tennessee law. What part of my post "couldn't be any more false"?

No a police officer cannot charge someone for stuff like that.

 

[keenobserver]

Threatening a female seems very thug like to me

Gotcha........We've come a long way from 90's Tupac......Instead of bustin caps and slinging dope, thugs are now defined as those who, wait for it..................threaten

 

[JoAllan]

Remember this is all over a wrong U turn. I'm sure that screamed the driver being under the influence.

This is all over Banks making a mistake. Then Banks not taking care of the mistake. Then those problems multiplying. Then Banks knew about the problems (suspended license & warrant) but chose to drive anyway, and even chose to make an illegal U turn.

Banks never made a direct threat to anyone (as there are “fighting words doctrine” and he didn’t cross the line).

however what he said was bad.......and the entire situation made Tennessee and the football program look even worse (not what Tennessee needs right now).

No need for anyone to “down play” the situation, or even try and make “more” of what happened (maybe not you, but people have been)......it is what it is....not a murder threat, but it was a bad situation, start to finish.

 

[Vol8188]

I didn't say it wasn't a threat. My post was about whether it rose to the level of an actionable offense under Tennessee law. What part of my post "couldn't be any more false"?

Your post used the criteria for assault not for a threat

 

[JMSqb11]

This is all over Banks making a mistake. Then Banks not taking care of the mistake. Then those problems multiplying. Then Banks knew about the problems (suspended license & warrant) but chose to drive anyway, and even chose to make an illegal U turn.

Banks never made a direct threat to anyone (as there are “fighting words doctrine” and he didn’t cross the line).

however what he said was bad.......and the entire situation made Tennessee and the football program look even worse (not what Tennessee needs right now).

No need for anyone to “down play” the situation, or even try and make “more” of what happened (maybe not you, but people have been)......it is what it is....not a murder threat, but it was a bad situation, start to finish.

Why did Banks get pulled over?

 

[BeecherVol]

I’m certainly all for another topic. We’ve rung this ones neck and everybody is still in their respective camps.

Careful what you ask for though. Hopefully the next topic will be nothing more than a reaction to the Georgia game.

It will be predictable. UT will more likely lose big as most here have predicted throughout the last 2 weeks. The comical part will the uproar over it knowing that.

 

[Quaint88]

Your post used the criteria for assault not for a threat

I was starting with the belief that Banks's statements were threats despite how vague they were. Then, I looked for Tennessee laws involving threats, and that's the law that covers this situation (as best as I can tell, not being a lawyer).

 

[Vol8188]

I was starting with the belief that Banks's statements were threats despite how vague they were. Then, I looked for Tennessee laws involving threats, and that's the law that covers this situation (as best as I can tell, not being a lawyer).

Here’s what you appear to be quoting. That is regarding assault, not threats.

 

[JoAllan]

Why did Banks get pulled over?

Dang did you read the post? It’s in there.

It did not “start” from a U turn. That night, that situation “started” because Banks chose to drive even though “he” knew his license was suspended and he had a warrant........which was “caused” by mistakes he made even earlier and never chose to correct.

 

['Boro-vol]

It will be predictable. UT will more likely lose big as most here have predicted throughout the last 2 weeks. The comical part will the uproar over it knowing that.

There is only one faction that will be surprised if that happens. And many of them will have the worst initial reaction. At least they’ll have the players to blame.

 

[VolsnRavens]

We've seen this over and over. I feel bad for these kids that have these issues. But we know, it's only a handful at that, when you hear these stories from their college days, they go on to be wonderful successful people. More often than not, they don't. True change is hard and normally only happens when hard times hit. When you refuse to change and it causes such chaos in your life you have nothing left to do but change. Few get that. I'm gonna hold off on predicting Mr. Banks future. I hope he finds happiness and success. But I don't have a lot of confidence.

 

[JMSqb11]

Dang did you read the post? It’s in there.

It did not “start” from a U turn. That night, that situation “started” because Banks chose to drive even though “he” knew his license was suspended and he had a warrant........which was “caused” by mistakes he made even earlier and never chose to correct.

Once again, why did he get pulled over? Can you not answer that?

 

[butchna]

I'm just really hoping this thread dies and some other topic pops off.

It will. Bryce Thompson actually had to go to court and where’s his new thread?

 

[Jax_Vol]

Once again, why did he get pulled over? Can you not answer that?

Banks didn't get pulled over....I thought he was the passenger?

 

[BeecherVol]

There is only one faction that will be surprised if that happens. And many of them will have the worst initial reaction. At least they’ll have the players to blame.

Oh I don't know about that.

Most have UT getting blasted this weekend some of that group have them going 1-11 or 2-12. Ga St and all.
Pruitt will somehow be worse than today after the shot was called correctly.

 

[Jax_Vol]

It will. Bryce Thompson actually had to go to court and where’s his new thread?

Yes, I testified for Bryce Thompson.

I've been watching him play for two years, and he ain't hit no one yet.

 

['Boro-vol]

Oh I don't know about that.

Most have UT getting blasted this weekend some of that group have them going 1-11 or 2-12. Ga St and all.
Pruitt will somehow be worse than today after the shot was called correctly.

No...he’ll be the same. Always the same.