Jeremy Banks needs to be dismissed

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Vol8188 said:
Perhaps, but what that truly means is that he agrees this would be threatening to anyone else. But he thinks because police are spoken down to often, that it somehow lowers the standard.
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That has to be the dumbest thing I have heard and is no where near consistent with what I have said.

I have simply said that the people on this posts clamoring outrage really have no say in the matter.

You can say Banks threatened those cops with violence and death from your observations. What happens if the Cops who actually made the arrest don't feel that way? Are you there actual feelings and thoughts and opinions of what happened no longer valid because you their response doesn't match yours? That is what this entire thread is filled with.

I, on the other hand, am totally fine with not spouting off and letting the cops who are grown adults form their own thoughts and opinions and feelings because guess what? I wasn't there and wasn't involved with the arrest and booking. And guess what else? I can bet $1,000 that you weren't there either. So our opinions on the matter meant absolutely nothing.

The people, like you, who think that your feelings as a spectator trump the people who actually are involved are the worst of the faux outrage crowd.

How about let the grown ups who actually handled the arrest judge things for themselves and if they come to a conclusion that isn't what you agree with, so be it! And if they come to a conclusion that you agree with, so be it!
 
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BeecherVol said:
Agreed.
I think some believe if he's not kicked off the team you re dismissing his comments and actions to a degree as well.
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Well he was punished well before the arrest footage was released. You can't go back and add punishment.
 
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BEATBAMA12 said:
When cops act this dumb it generally makes people angry and say stupid stuff. He wasn’t drunk high or carrying anything illegal, should’ve had someone come to pick him and the car up and let the court handle it. Cops get on power trips didn’t have to arrest the man.
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So in your world a police officer arresting someone with an active arrest warrant, that is considered an officer acting dumb?

What would you consider a guy that makes an illegal u turn, whiles driving on a suspended license, who also has an active arrest warrant for driving while suspended?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Well he was punished well before the arrest footage was released. You can't go back and add punishment.
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Well you can but IMO that would be a bad move. Administration looks bad enough, no need to make it worse by looking like the NFL office.

Really doesn’t matter, Pruitt will be burned at the stake no matter what he does.
 
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BEATBAMA12 said:
Yeah they didn’t have to arrest him, I’ve had a bench warrant for the Same bs. Cops need to go fight real crime.
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Are you aware of the amount of people, violent felonies etc that are caught due to a simple traffic violation?

Timothy McVeigh was caught based on a simple traffic violation by a cop that should have been fighting real crime.

Lawman who caught Timothy McVeigh speaks of arrest
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Well he was punished well before the arrest footage was released. You can't go back and add punishment.
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That wasn't really my point.

Im not saying you go back and suspended or dismiss. Unless the video tells you something you didn't take into account due to ignorance.

My point was more toward the idea that to a degree you are lessening the severity of his comments and actions if you don't think he should have been suspended or removed from the team. At least it could be viewed that way.
 
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BisonVol said:
Obviously this is a horrible reflection on Jeremy Banks, but it is also a PR nightmare for the university. While I don't think dismissing Banks is the right answer, I do think a lengthy suspension is in order in addition to some other internal disciplinary actions. If I were coach, 1) Banks doesn't suit up again this season and 2) he meets with police officers and/or does a few ride alongs so that he gains some perspective on why law enforcement officers should be treated with respect.

Merely handling this internally without any sort of suspension just isn't an acceptable form of punishment in my eyes.
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What makes you think police officers want him to "ride a long" with them?
 
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BeecherVol said:
That wasn't really my point.

Im not saying you go back and suspended or dismiss. Unless the video tells you something you didn't take into account due to ignorance.

My point was more toward the idea that to a degree you are lessening the severity of his comments and actions if you don't think he should have been suspended or removed from the team. At least it could be viewed that way.
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Ah I get it now.

Yeah I could see how that could be viewed that way. Just a rotten situation. In the social media age, these things blow up way more than they need.
 
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Defense Attorney: "Your honor, we have a 1-3 record including loses to a Cult and Georgia State. How much of a thug can Jeremy Banks possibly be?"

Judge: "Case dismissed"
 
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In Tennessee, a threat can be prosecuted as assault if one "intentionally or knowingly causes another to reasonably fear imminent bodily injury". T.C.A. 39-13-101(a)(2)

There's no reasonable fear of imminent bodily injury from someone handcuffed in the back of a police car, so the cops couldn't have charged him for what he said even if he'd been more explicit instead of just insinuating.

That said, it's a bad look for Banks and the Vols, and I hope he will exercise better judgement going forward. I also hope we're not seeing the start of a pattern from Pruitt's recruits. You shouldn't have to do legal research to discuss Vols football.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Defense Attorney: "Your honor, we have a 1-3 record including loses in a cult and Georgia State. How much of a thug can Jeremy Banks possibly be?"

Judge: "Case dismissed"
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It’s funny because it’s not even a court case. 🤣
 
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JMSqb11 said:
That has to be the dumbest thing I have heard and is no where near consistent with what I have said.

I have simply said that the people on this posts clamoring outrage really have no say in the matter.

You can say Banks threatened those cops with violence and death from your observations. What happens if the Cops who actually made the arrest don't feel that way? Are you there actual feelings and thoughts and opinions of what happened no longer valid because you their response doesn't match yours? That is what this entire thread is filled with.

I, on the other hand, am totally fine with not spouting off and letting the cops who are grown adults form their own thoughts and opinions and feelings because guess what? I wasn't there and wasn't involved with the arrest and booking. And guess what else? I can bet $1,000 that you weren't there either. So our opinions on the matter meant absolutely nothing.

The people, like you, who think that your feelings as a spectator trump the people who actually are involved are the worst of the faux outrage crowd.

How about let the grown ups who actually handled the arrest judge things for themselves and if they come to a conclusion that isn't what you agree with, so be it! And if they come to a conclusion that you agree with, so be it!
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The opinions of the people who pay Banks way to school and the salaries of Pruitt and the officers, seems to be very important to me.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
In your opinion.

And once again, what time are you going to the PD there to file a restraining order on Banks on this lady's behalf?
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Stop being a tool. We don’t have to go on behalf of the lady for it to be a threat. It was and is threatening comments at the time they were made and watching the video it’s obvious.
 
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sechamp2012 said:
Jerry Rice might not fit that list. Being 49ner follower, Rice was arrested at a Prostitution parlor Lipstick Alley in 1998 in police sting.
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Wouldn't someone need to do more than threaten someone to be considered "a thug"?

Or is he a thug because of the illegal uturn and unpaid ticket?
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Ah I get it now.

Yeah I could see how that could be viewed that way. Just a rotten situation. In the social media age, these things blow up way more than they need.
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I think Beecher crystallized what a lot of us are thinking, and failing to communicate correctly. Glad you see that too.

One other point....these kids are on scholarship, at a public University. We pay for, in one way or another, their ability to be there to get an education and play football. I submit this kind of stuff, as ugly as it is, should always be made public, so we can make our own decisions. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. It’s no different than a politician whose salary we pay.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Agreed.
I think some believe if he's not kicked off the team you re dismissing his comments and actions to a degree as well.
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So you agree that "People defending or diminishing his actions simply are telling me and others what kind of people they are"?
 
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bigdaddy said:
Stop being a tool. We don’t have to go on behalf of the lady for it to be a threat. It was and is threatening comments at the time they were made and watching the video it’s obvious.
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In your opinion. Do you speak for the lady and the arresting officer? Have you confirmed with them if they feel threatened by it? Are you really saying you think they are incapable of speaking for themselves on this issue?

My goodness yall want to come to the police's defense, but on same note, yall think they are incapable of being able to form their own thoughts and opinions and feelings. Which is it?

It. Does. Not. Matter. What. People. On. A. Message. Board. Think.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I think Beecher crystallized what a lot of us are thinking, and failing to communicate correctly. Glad you see that too.

One other point....these kids are on scholarship, at a public University. We pay for, in one way or another, their ability to be there to get an education and play football. I submit this kind of stuff, as ugly as it is, should always be made public, so we can make our own decisions. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. It’s no different than a politician whose salary we pay.
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I'm just really hoping this thread dies and some other topic pops off.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I'm just really hoping this thread dies and some other topic pops off.
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I’m certainly all for another topic. We’ve rung this ones neck and everybody is still in their respective camps.

Careful what you ask for though. Hopefully the next topic will be nothing more than a reaction to the Georgia game.
 
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Behr said:
So you agree that "People defending or diminishing his actions simply are telling me and others what kind of people they are"?
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I agree that theres different levels to the idea.

1. "eh, nothing to it at all, everybody should just forget about it, he's just a kid, Play Ball!"
2. "It was stupid and reckless and Pruitt should make sure he knows as much, but I don't think he should be suspended or dismissed"
3. "It was a terrible set of comments and actions. He should be immediately dismissed from the team and Id be fine with him being criminally charged with the threat."

#1 is the only one that pretty much removes any sense of it not being the right thing to do.
#2 Acknowledges the action as stupid, but also allows for a level of defense from the standpoint of allowing him a second chance.
#3 is the only idea that totally takes away any sense of someone defending or diminishing it on any level.

There may be a couple more but most everyone with an opinion falls under 1 of those groups.

Im not going to speculate on what that makes them as a person.
 
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