Jarrett Guarantano

[GVF]

I'm referring to the GT game where he threw it deep in double coverage and Callaway bailed him out and caught it. The TD pass to Callaway against Indiana state was beautiful

Isn't that a receivers job? To make an adjustment and catch the ball, especially on deep routes where accuracy is inconsistent even when running practice routes with no defenders. Can't make a perfect throw every time. Receiver has to earn his keep.

 

[BAJAvol]

Isn't that a receivers job? To make an adjustment and catch the ball, especially on deep routes where accuracy is inconsistent even when running practice routes with no defenders. Can't make a perfect throw every time. Receiver has to earn his keep.

meh to a point. When I think of a WR turning and adjusting, I think of back shoulder throws and long balls down the sideline or endzone. Just launching it up in the middle of field is begging for the ball to be picked off.

 

[JMSqb11]

meh to a point. When I think of a WR turning and adjusting, I think of back shoulder throws and long balls down the sideline or endzone. Just launching it up in the middle of field is begging for the ball to be picked off.

If this was a bad throw and decision, I would hate to see what you think a good throw is. He literally threw to the only place where the defense wasn't.

 

[BAJAvol]

If this was a bad throw and decision, I would hate to see what you think a good throw is. He literally threw to the only place where the defense wasn't.

When he jacks the ball up in double coverage again during SEC play, it's probably not going to end well. And if you want to get technical, it may have been an under throw.

 

[GVF]

meh to a point. When I think of a WR turning and adjusting, I think of back shoulder throws and long balls down the sideline or endzone. Just launching it up in the middle of field is begging for the ball to be picked off.

Refer to PM's QB career stats (UT). INT/TD/Attempts. He threw quite a few INT for such a heralded QB. And sometimes not so good INT/TD ratio for attempts. And notwithstanding the quality of receivers he had verses the current stable of receivers. I give QD a solid passing grade with room for improvement after his first 2 games.

 

[BAJAvol]

Refer to PM's QB career stats (UT). INT/TD/Attempts. He threw quite a few INT for such a heralded QB. And sometimes not so good INT/TD ratio for attempts. And notwithstanding the quality of receivers he had verses the current stable of receivers. I give QD a solid passing grade with room for improvement after his first 2 games.

I'm not going to set here and compare Quinten to an NFL Hall of Fame QB. It's not fair to him. All I am saying, is that launching the ball to the middle of the field in double coverage ends badly more times than none. Calloway made a hell of a play.

 

[GVF]

When he jacks the ball up in double coverage again during SEC play, it's probably not going to end well. And if you want to get technical, it may have been and under throw.

Name a seasoned QB who has perfected the ability not to throw into double coverage at times. With or without an INT. QD has 1 INT in two games as a starter with minimal prior field exposure. That's not bad. Maybe it was Indy State, but the DB's were not horrible.

 

[GVF]

I'm not going to set here and compare Quinten to an NFL Hall of Fame QB. It's not fair to him. All I am saying, is that launching the ball to the middle of the field in double coverage ends badly more times than none. Calloway made a hell of a play.

I'm not comparing him to an NFL HOF QB. I'm comparing him to PM's stats at UT when he was a college QB and NOT an NFL HOF QB. I specifically stated look at PM's UT stats. He was worse as a junior than a sophomore with the same amount of attempts. Averaged a pick a game his two veteran collegiate seasons.

 

[BAJAvol]

Name a seasoned QB who has perfected the ability not to throw into double coverage at times. With or without an INT. QD has 1 INT in two games as a starter with minimal prior field exposure. That's not bad. Maybe it was Indy State, but the DB's were not horrible.

Are you not comprehending what I am saying. Lets put this into an equation..

Launching ball up in the air in the MIDDLE OF THE FIELD ONLY + double coverage = high probability of INT. That's not knocking Quinten. That's just talking football.

 

[BAJAvol]

I'm not comparing him to an NFL HOF QB. I'm comparing him to PM's stats at UT when he was a college QB and NOT an NFL HOF QB. I specifically stated look at PM's UT stats. He was worse as a junior than a sophomore with the same amount of attempts. Averaged a pick a game his two veteran collegiate seasons.

I'm still failing to understand what in the world Peyton's stats in 95 have to do with Quinten Dormady? Of course QB's are going to throw INT's. It's part of the game. They just need to limit consistent poor decision making that result in INTs. Good defenses are going to make plays regardless of the QB talent.

 

[GVF]

Are you not comprehending what I am saying. Lets put this into an equation..

Launching ball up in the air in the MIDDLE OF THE FIELD ONLY + double coverage = high probability of INT. That's not knocking Quinten. That's just talking football.

Anyone who has ever been a QB has done that, and still do it on occasion. I see what you are saying, but the sky ain't falling. Experience will lessen the probability he does that as the season rolls on. He will. Just not as often. Saw it in more than just the UT game I watched Saturday. My point is, arguably the greatest Ut QB ever did not light the boards up and just get the starting job and march into the history books. It actually took a good part of the '94 season for him to lock up the job. even at that, his INT's were up there for such a historic QB. There were three of them competing for that job after JC got hurt, and he didn't blaze any trails his first time on the field. And, you can compare his freshman experience to QD's Junior experience because they are about the same.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I think you are confused. JG played scared just with his footwork in the pocket. There is nothing that shows QD plays scared. He has 1.5 turnovers and has thrown the deep ball long, not short. QD is steady. JG was antsy against a JUCO school. Definitely not ready to start or get serious playing time in the Swamp or against Florida. Butch doesn't do well against Florida with QB changes. Butch is on the hot seat and he isn't going to increase his odds of losing to Florida with a new QB.

lol:

 

[GVF]

I'm still failing to understand what in the world Peyton's stats in 95 have to do with Quinten Dormady? Of course QB's are going to throw INT's. It's part of the game. They just need to limit consistent poor decision making that result in INTs. Good defenses are going to make plays regardless of the QB talent.

It's not hard to understand. Ya'll are busting on QD for staring a receiver down and only throwing 1 INT in 2 games. PM threw 1 per game for two years, as a SEASONED junior and senior. Reckon he stared any receivers down. reckon we are all OK with PM's decision making that resulted in 1 per game yet still being the best at UT. It's a plausible comparison. QD's "poor" decision making has thus far resulted in ONLY 1 INT. And since JG overthrows the entire filed, he has none (or maybe 1). so far, we are doing good in the INT department with very inexperienced QB's.

And to you're point, INT's are part of the game.

 

[jessiej86]

I know you keep ignoring it but here is your example again!

The interception in the endzone is the primamry example. He never look at any other receiver and threw it right into coverage. Not even a glance at the other side fo the field.

I was at the game sitting behind the endzone and it was liek i could have intercepted the pass, knew where it was going from the snap!

On tv, it appeared that he first looked at the tight end on a shorter out, then on to receiver coming across the back of the endzone.

 

[BAJAvol]

It's not hard to understand. Ya'll are busting on QD for staring a receiver down and only throwing 1 INT in 2 games. PM threw 1 per game for two years, as a SEASONED junior and senior. Reckon he stared any receivers down. reckon we are all OK with PM's decision making that resulted in 1 per game yet still being the best at UT. It's a plausible comparison. QD's "poor" decision making has thus far resulted in ONLY 1 INT. And since JG overthrows the entire filed, he has none (or maybe 1). so far, we are doing good in the INT department with very inexperienced QB's.

Don't lump me in the "ya'll" category. I've never said he stares down a wide receiver nor have I said he is not a good QB. I've said two things in this thread.

1. IMO, a mobile QB drives this offense from the data we've been given. We have NOT played the games to determine if QD is in fact mobile. So by the end of the UGA game, we should have a pretty good idea on where we are at at QB moving forward.

2. I was hoping to see Jarrett get a consecutive series in the second quarter to see how he responded after going to the sideline and talking with Canales and Scott. May have come out and did better, may have stayed the same, may have done worse. I'm not judging him on the garbage time he got to play. And no that is not a protest for JG to start the Florida game like some are twisting.

 

[pimo1]

On tv, it appeared that he first looked at the tight end on a shorter out, then on to receiver coming across the back of the endzone.

stop with the facts

 

[volfan102455]

Good grief! QD is the starter. Give it a rest.

 

[GVF]

Don't lump me in the "ya'll" category. I've never said he stares down a wide receiver nor have I said he is not a good QB. I've said two things in this thread.

1. IMO, a mobile QB drives this offense from the data we've been given. We have NOT played the games to determine if QD is in fact mobile. So by the end of the UGA game, we should have a pretty good idea on where we are at at QB moving forward.

2. I was hoping to see Jarrett get a consecutive series in the second quarter to see how he responded after going to the sideline and talking with Canales and Scott. May have come out and did better, may have stayed the same, may have done worse. I'm not judging him on the garbage time he got to play. And no that is not a protest for JG to start the Florida game like some are twisting.

Two valid points. Especially #2. JG starting FL would be a disaster. My point is that there is a lot of critiquing of QD for a guy that has not done terrible in his first two starts, and who by comparison to PM at similar points in their collegiate careers, has pretty good performance thus far. he definitely has to improve, but he did not crash and burn. He led a pretty impressive comeback against GT, down 14 with 7 minutes left.

 

[k-town_king]

No one is saying JG should start right now. No one is saying QD is terrible or will never develop.

He hasn't played well and has forced a bunch of passes. Some are acting like he has played perfect or played great. He hasn't.

 

[GVF]

Good grief! QD is the starter. Give it a rest.

As he should be. JG looked JV against what someone said was basically a JUCO team. Probably why he didn't get more reps. He needed them, and the team needs him to be much better. But, he probably got what he was told he would get this week after last weeks pouting. Wasn't gonna get all the graces back in one week. Was definitely glad to see a different sideline player this week. He made a wise choice.

 

[114VOL]

No one is saying JG should start right now. No one is saying QD is terrible or will never develop.

He hasn't played well and has forced a bunch of passes. Some are acting like he has played perfect or played great. He hasn't.

No one is "acting" like he played perfect. You don't know much about the game when you're saying "he hasn't played well". He has played pretty well. He directed a pressure packed, 93 yard drive against GT when it looked like we were done. He's forced a few passes. Not a bunch.

At least get the facts straight. QD is better than JG. It's obvious to anyone who knows just a little about the game

 

[GVF]

No one is saying JG should start right now. No one is saying QD is terrible or will never develop.

He hasn't played well and has forced a bunch of passes. Some are acting like he has played perfect or played great. He hasn't.

I wouldn't say he hasn't played well. He made up for the forced passes with really good passes to help us come back and win in OT when we were down the entire game which was still 14 points at 7 minutes left. If he wasn't playing well, that would not have been possible. Having said that, he wasn't great. just good enough to pull off a big comeback, and take an expected win. And yes, Callaway bailed him out on some. but, it is his job to make catches, even when he has to be the play maker. But, he did not crash. He is probably right where a reasonable person would expect him to be. doesn't matter that he's a junior. his on field, live game experience is very negligible at start of season. A few mop ups last year about it. nothing that would have prepared him for this outside of the same practices as the other QB's.

To the contrary, there were as many drops as forced passes. JG actually had some good passes that were dropped. the receivers could have made both look a little better. didn't come through for JG.

 

[GVF]

No one is "acting" like he played perfect. You don't know much about the game when you're saying "he hasn't played well". He has played pretty well. He directed a pressure packed, 93 yard drive against GT when it looked like we were done. He's forced a few passes. Not a bunch.

At least get the facts straight. QD is better than JG. It's obvious to anyone who knows just a little about the game

Agreed

 

[Orangeslice13]

No one is "acting" like he played perfect. You don't know much about the game when you're saying "he hasn't played well". He has played pretty well. He directed a pressure packed, 93 yard drive against GT when it looked like we were done. He's forced a few passes. Not a bunch.

At least get the facts straight. QD is better than JG. It's obvious to anyone who knows just a little about the game

I know next to nothing about football and it's obvious to me too

 

[m1al]

He asked for the situation to be proved, QD never looked off the receiver when he threw the Interception. That is the proof!:thud:

Well there you are then. The verdict is in. Two games and one interception is all the proof YOU need. He officially sucks. Doomed to stare down receivers forever with no chance, what so ever, to improve..



I don't suppose you realize how ridiculous you guys sound, do you?