Janzen Jackson and Bryce Brown

#76
#76
Bottom line is very simple--JJ has NFL talent and BB doesn't.

Can't understand how BB could not find a way to play for Snyder at KState...that guy is a GREAT coach and his players love him...:salute:
 
#78
#78
jasonvol18 said:
I truely feel for adults who sit and bash kids. Oh well all I can do is wish both ex vols the best. Bryce didn't quit and Janzen couldn't stay straight but hopefully has gotten himself right and both go make bank.
Click to expand...

I'm not bashing at all. I believe he quit, but that is not bashing. The young man (notice I am not considering him a "kid" as you do) made a decision to quit which was well within his human rights. No bash at all, but it does indicate a weakness in my opinion. We all have weaknesses, and BB seems to quit when things get tough. That mentality typically will not survive in a tough, competitive environment such as the NFL.
 
#79
#79
1982Alum said:
Well now wouldn't you like to know the answer to that. I would be happy to compare paycheck EOY amounts with Mr. Brown (or is it actually Kid Brown) anytime he likes.
Click to expand...

If he makes it to CFL he will be making 6 figures right away. If you make that, well good for you. But I bet you didn't make that right out of college.
MikeVol44 said:
Bottom line is very simple--JJ has NFL talent and BB doesn't.

Can't understand how BB could not find a way to play for Snyder at KState...that guy is a GREAT coach and his players love him...:salute:
Click to expand...

Ever think that maybe Snyder didn't love him? Brown may have never wanted to be there, and why would Snyder reward him with PT? He proved at UT he had potential by averaging over 4 ypc on over 100 touches. But I guess logic gets in the way of everyone's blind hate for a 20yo who, with heavy influence from his parents to say the least, made some poor choices.
 
#80
#80
zach0105 said:
If he makes it to CFL he will be making 6 figures right away. If you make that, well good for you. But I bet you didn't make that right out of college.


Ever think that maybe Snyder didn't love him? Brown may have never wanted to be there, and why would Snyder reward him with PT? He proved at UT he had potential by averaging over 4 ypc on over 100 touches. But I guess logic gets in the way of everyone's blind hate for a 20yo who, with heavy influence from his parents to say the least, made some poor choices.
Click to expand...

Hey look pal--I don't have blind hate--or any hate--for BB...And, are you kidding me--1 year as a true freshman playing in mostly mop-up duty and accumulating those yards against non-SEC teams qualifies him to be NFL talent? And I stand by my coach Snyder comments--BB went back to his home state to play for a most beloved coach--obviously the best situation possible for BB--and he quits? Absolutely no objective evidence pointing to BB making it in the NFL! NO hate on the kid--he just hasn't proven to be that good from a objective and truly LOGICAL PERSPECTIVE--something you obviously lack!
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#82
#82
I just remember everyone being so excited about BB potential after his freshman year and everyone saying he had NFL talent. And now that he left everyone sounds like a jaded ex gf saying he has no talent what so ever.

If he would have stuck it out here, I think he would be a first day pick. Unfortunately his father forced him to come back home and play for a team he did not want to be on. He had personal/family issues that kept him from being able to focus on football and that is unfortunate for him. I personally hope he gets a second chance with a team and makes the most of it.

I also think it's funny how someone who has had issues with drugs is more well regarded than someone who simply tried to please their parents.
 
#83
#83
1982Alum said:
He quit on us plain and simple. I don't buy the "He was a victim of__________" mentality. Old enough to vote; old enough to make his own decisions. He will amount to nothing in life.
Click to expand...

I agree with this besides the last sentence. If you are over 18, your parents shouldn't make your decisions in life. Especially ones that could affect the rest of your life.
 
#84
#84
If Brown had stayed at UT how many here think he would have developed? I sure think he would have and been pretty good
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#85
#85
jasonvol18 said:
I disagree. Brown will do well in the NFL. Janzen will do well if he keeps his head right. Jackson is far more of a headcase than BB. Getting away from his father controlling him will go a long way for Bryce. I am pulling for him. The case of a crazy ass father trying to control his son instead of letting him be a man and making his own decisions.
Click to expand...

what team in the NFL is going to take a player that played all of one year, and was less than dazzling in that one year? bryce will see playing time in the UFL, that might about about it. it's not that I want to see him fail, it's that I have a hard time seeing any NFL team giving him a realistic chance.
 
#86
#86
With Bryce, my feeling was that he was given 2 choices, "us" or "them". No matter if he chose family or Tennessee, he was giving up the other. I don't blame him for choosing family. Instead, I hate the fact that he was given such a terrible ultimatum.
That's why I don't call it quitting. Unless you can prove that's not what happened, you won't be changing my mind. There's literally no other reason to rationalize him having to unceremoniously go back to Kansas, where he showed he didn't want to be, yet still came here as frequently as he possibly could.
 
#87
#87
VolFanInHawaii said:
what team in the NFL is going to take a player that played all of one year, and was less than dazzling in that one year? bryce will see playing time in the UFL, that might about about it. it's not that I want to see him fail, it's that I have a hard time seeing any NFL team giving him a realistic chance.
Click to expand...
If you have the measureables, someone is going to give you a shot, whether it be practice squad or otherwise.
 
#88
#88
NFL teams won't take a chance on BB with his history....he may get a chance as a FA and signed to a practice squad, but they will look at what he has done and have major concerns
 
#90
#90
VolFanInHawaii said:
what team in the NFL is going to take a player that played all of one year, and was less than dazzling in that one year? bryce will see playing time in the UFL, that might about about it. it's not that I want to see him fail, it's that I have a hard time seeing any NFL team giving him a realistic chance.
Click to expand...

I'm not saying he will be a first rounder. He will problem end up a free agent type player. All I'm saying is someone will give him a shot and hope he succeeds. He's still an ex vol and hope they all do well.
 
#91
#91
Carl Pickens said:
NFL teams won't take a chance on BB with his history....he may get a chance as a FA and signed to a practice squad, but they will look at what he has done and have major concerns
Click to expand...

What's his history? What evil has he done or caused? The NFL is full of wack jobs, babies, rapists and killers. Him leaving cause his father requested it will not throw up a red flag. I will say he should have atleast given an efforts at KST as obvious as it was he didn't want to be there. But to say he has a history of doing bad IMO is inaccurate.
 
#92
#92
zach0105 said:
If he makes it to CFL he will be making 6 figures right away. If you make that, well good for you. But I bet you didn't make that right out of college.


Ever think that maybe Snyder didn't love him? Brown may have never wanted to be there, and why would Snyder reward him with PT? He proved at UT he had potential by averaging over 4 ypc on over 100 touches. But I guess logic gets in the way of everyone's blind hate for a 20yo who, with heavy influence from his parents to say the least, made some poor choices.
Click to expand...

Childish excuses.
 
#93
#93
abacon81 said:
No VFL in my opinion....there is no such thing as a better job.

I was actually on your side in this debate until you said this.

Now run on back to Alabama.
Click to expand...

Hold on bro I didn't mean it was a better job IMO. My point was obviously Lane thought it was better and decided to bolt. There is no better job, university or fanbase than ours. I'm just saying Lane thought that, he didn't want to be here so move on.
 
#94
#94
jasonvol18 said:
I'm not saying he will be a first rounder. He will problem end up a free agent type player. All I'm saying is someone will give him a shot and hope he succeeds. He's still an ex vol and hope they all do well.
Click to expand...

Doubt you could bury your nose any deeper up his butt.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#95
#95
Both have the potential to have good careers in the NFL, but both have to change some things in their lives in order to do so...

Janzen, say no to drugs. It's that simple. If you can do that you could be stellar in the league.

Bryce, tell daddy that u are a grown man and he needs to back off. He already cost you your college career...don't let him mess up your chance to play with the big dogs in the NFL.

That is all.
 
#97
#97
jasonvol18 said:
Uh no actually your wrong. He didn't quit on UT. Some fathers just have control over kids, which isn't fair and says alot about BBs character. Great kid who did didn't want to leave but did because of his sorry ass father. So no that's not quitting.
Click to expand...


Yeah, it shows he cannot think for himself.
 
#98
#98
1982Alum said:
Doubt you could bury your nose any deeper up his butt.
Click to expand...

Lmao..OK Geritol whatever you say. You obviously are the perfect person. Never made a childish mistake, screwed up and had some immaturity when you were 18-21. When my sons gets that age I definitely wanna meet up with you so you can lend your advice and expertise on skipping over immaturity and straight to the perfect adult. Would love to pick your brain a few hours.
 
#100
#100
jasonvol18 said:
Lmao..OK Geritol whatever you say. You obviously are the perfect person. Never made a childish mistake, screwed up and had some immaturity when you were 18-21. When my sons gets that age I definitely wanna meet up with you so you can lend your advice and expertise on skipping over immaturity and straight to the perfect adult. Would love to pick your brain a few hours.
Click to expand...


Call my secretary anytime; she can get you an appointment.
 
New Posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

Advertisement



Back
Top