Its over [hiring pause]

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SGMVols said:
If you think they’re going to fire a coach for NCAA violations to replace him with a coach with 15 Level 1 violations on his record, I don’t know what to tell you.
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I didn't say I think they will hire him. Given the recent hiring history, it's basically a given that they won't. They won't spend any big money to get a big time hire. I'm expecting yet another bargain bin hire that the fan base will have to talk themselves into getting excited about.
 
#79
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CA_Vol said:
Awesome. They will pause until we can’t recruit portal transfers or hire a good coach.

If this were Bama, UF, or LSU the investigation would have been done two weeks ago.
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Umm I was with you until LSU. They are in worse shape than us coming off a Natty. I’m not sure that’s possible but they did it!
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Football scoop was based of Trey Wallace, Trey is FOS. ESPN reporting things is a different story and validates those claims a little
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Unless ESPN is using the same source of the original story. The ESPN story does not reference sources inside the AD or administration. This appears to be a typical journalistic piece of continuing to expand upon one story by adding known details, in this case, contract details and names of players who have entered the portal. Nothing new was reported.
 
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VolsFan-TX said:
Unless ESPN is using the same source of the original story. The ESPN story does not reference sources inside the AD or administration. This appears to be a typical journalistic piece of continuing to expand upon one story by adding known details, in this case, contract details and names of players who have entered the portal. Nothing new was reported.
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Chris low who has as good of connections as anyone from UT has come out and says Pruitt most likely is fired
 
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KeyVol14 said:
Chris low who has as good of connections with anyone from UT has come out and says Pruitt most likely is fired
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I get it. There are lots of people saying the same thing. I actually have low regard for current media types and don’t trust them to actually investigate and use reliable sources. Do you think someone within the AD actually told Chris that CJP is losing his job? I doubt that occurred. He most likely looked at the investigation story, the pause on hiring, and the players entering the portal and stated it would be difficult for CJP to return. Anyone could have written that statement.

We will find out soon enough, but I will continue with a hesitation on reports until the school makes an announcement.
 
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VolsFan-TX said:
I get it. There are lots of people saying the same thing. I actually have low regard for current media types and don’t trust them to actually investigate and use reliable sources. Do you think someone within the AD actually told Chris that CJP is losing his job? I doubt that occurred. He most likely looked at the investigation story, the pause on hiring, and the players entering the portal and stated it would be difficult for CJP to return. Anyone could have written that statement.

We will find out soon enough, but I will continue with a hesitation on reports until the school makes an announcement.
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The pause of any hiring story came out today Chris low said that on the radio yesterday
 
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ShoalCreekVol said:
Imagine running a business where you pay a high guaranteed salary and bonuses to an employee who has never held that particular role before anywhere else, and not including a performance requirement. Couldn't happen.
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I know of one university that has an Athletic Director who meets that definition. Guess which one.
 
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Can we just go ahead and hire any and all former or current Texas coaches in all sports. Geez..... little UT anyone.
 
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BeardedVol said:
What I always hate about NCAA penalties, is that even with the coach/staff firing, the school still gets hit with the full force of them anyway, and it's the next coach that suffers not the one who committed the infractions.
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It has to be that way. Otherwise a school hires a cheating coach, let's him stock the cupboard with players and is suddenly "shocked by his cheating."

He's gone and the school is stocked with great recruits and can hire a real coach. Rinse, repeat.

The school has to be in the know and, frankly, good at "the game" which means not hiring coaches who aren't good at "the game."
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
It has to be that way. Otherwise a school hires a cheating coach, let's him stock the cupboard with players and is suddenly "shocked by his cheating."

He's gone and the school is stocked with great recruits and can hire a real coach. Rinse, repeat.

The school has to be in the know and, frankly, good at "the game" which means not hiring coaches who aren't good at "the game."
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If the investigation finds that the AD or other non-coaching staff are complicit in their knowledge, that would contribute to 'lack of institutional control', but I doubt that in every case the AD and compliance department are just turning a blind eye, and then feigning ignorance when caught. If that were the case, no institution would ever self-report, in order to maintain plausible deniability.
 
#94
#94
Pause is another word used for freeze. They have similar meaning.

Freeze confirmed boys we did it!!
 
#96
#96
Wouldn't the infraction have to be pretty bad for it to go down like this. I have never seen anything happen at UT that bits and pieces didn't leek out.
 
#97
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The most Tennessee thing ever would be to find that infractions have been committed and not fire with cause. His contract is explicitly clear. He can be removed with cause for a single level 1 or level 2 violation by himself or staff that report to him, or multiple level 3 violations. Level 2 at minimum sounds like what we are dealing with here. As an example Washington baseball got hit with level 2 violations including failure to monitor because it bought airline tickets for the parents of a few baseball recruits after initially being told it was allowed to do so. It turns out it is only allowed in basketball and football. I think they'd bought maybe 8000 dollars worth of tickets, which was likely around 10-20 tickets total. They lost schollys, visits, and got failure to monitor which is a level 2 violation.

You don't spend hundreds of thousands on the lawyer UT hired for a few very minor errors and his fee at prior schools has averaged around 500k.
 
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BeardedVol said:
If the investigation finds that the AD or other non-coaching staff are complicit in their knowledge, that would contribute to 'lack of institutional control', but I doubt that in every case the AD and compliance department are just turning a blind eye, and then feigning ignorance when caught. If that were the case, no institution would ever self-report, in order to maintain plausible deniability.
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Meh, they self report to lessen the NCAA hit on the school, not any form of altruism that they "want to run a clean program." Let's not be naive.

Schools"lawyer up" to put on a show for the NCAA that "we really do care and we got to the bottom of this." These high powered "sanction lawyers" create a plausible story for the program that it was "contained to <those being tossed under the bus> and the program is mostly okay."

It's a dance. It's choreographed. The NCAA knows it but they play along.
 
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#100
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BeardedVol said:
What I always hate about NCAA penalties, is that even with the coach/staff firing, the school still gets hit with the full force of them anyway, and it's the next coach that suffers not the one who committed the infractions.
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If penalties and fines followed the coach and/or coaches involved, it would not happen near as often from them.
If it happens from boosters tied to a university, then punish the university. That would help real in unscrupulous boosters as well.
 
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