Is your apathy at an all time high???

[gtin723]

Don't forget Bray's work ethic, the guy worked his Butt off even after practice on Saturday nights, he could be seen chucking empty beer bottles across the parking lot into trash cans, until he got caught. LOL

 

[VolunteerCeltic]

And that apathy hurts everyone. From the retailers who sell Tennessee gear to the guys on sports radio to the university itself. It also hurts future generations of Vols.

All of that is true, but there is no indication that the UT athletic department is serious about the football program. The passion for the Vols that was in the 90's and early 2000s has diminished to the point where people are glad they didn't have a game last weekend against Texas A&M. Pruitt is in a tailspin and the program does not initiate any significant excitement anymore. There is a problem/sickness within the Athletic Department and they have struggled through 12 years of less than mediocre football (aside from two 9 win season under Butch). The current generation of young Vol fans have never seen Tennessee be successful, so future fandom will suffer significantly and that would affect future potential donors. It is sad, frustrating and maddening that a University with the football tradition and resources that Tennessee has cannot hire a coach that is better than a "Learn on the Job Coach!"

 

[Arclight]

Is it worse than previous coaches??? Please share your opinion...

No.

 

[gtin723]

it is even more frustrating when you see that Tennessee has the richest program in the SEC and yet cheaps out on hiring a top Head Coach, and settles for one with no experience at all, none.

Ranking the richest and poorest SEC football programs

• No. 8 Arkansas: $68.97 million.
• No. 7 Texas A&M: $73.7 million.
• No. 6 Florida: $83.76 million.
• No. 5 LSU: $85.74 million.
• No. 4 Georgia: $87.61 million.
• No. 3 Auburn: $92.53 million.
• No. 2 Alabama: $103.87 million.
• No. 1 Tennessee: $107.1 million.

 

[livefaith]

For me, it isn't so much that Fulmer made a bad hire under the circumstances. Much worse is that we are now fairly certain a different direction is needed, and he appears to be doing nothing about it. I am tired of waiting 2 more years before we do something about it.

If he's not really doing anything behind the scenes, then Phil ain't thinking. Our cupboard is not cometely bare at this exact moment. But, let nature run course for 1-2 years and we'll be worse than what Fools, Butch, or CJP inherited.

Fulmer should defend the heck out of Pruitt. After the PC, he needs to be scouring the ranks for the next guy. If we can land a home run, then pull the trigger. If we can't this cycle, then stay the course and keep working the same angle all off season.

Everything depends on hiring a star coach. All the other pieces are here, but that. A big splash hire soon holds most of a solid class and gives enough depth to build quick. Can't get it this year, then blame Wuhan hard, keep supporting JP to keep his class signed. If you get your star in Spring or Fall 21, then do it.

We need an AD that is shrewd, calm, cool, calculated, and not afraid to win.

 

[livefaith]

All of that is true, but there is no indication that the UT athletic department is serious about the football program. The passion for the Vols that was in the 90's and early 2000s has diminished to the point where people are glad they didn't have a game last weekend against Texas A&M. Pruitt is in a tailspin and the program does not initiate any significant excitement anymore. There is a problem/sickness within the Athletic Department and they have struggled through 12 years of less than mediocre football (aside from two 9 win season under Butch). The current generation of young Vol fans have never seen Tennessee be successful, so future fandom will suffer significantly and that would affect future potential donors. It is sad, frustrating and maddening that a University with the football tradition and resources that Tennessee has cannot hire a coach that is better than a "Learn on the Job Coach!"

I keep hearing this "UT admins don't care" narrative in every thread. Don't believe it's true. Those bureaucrats, like all others everywhere, love to soak in the winning atmosphere, pound their chests in pride, and benefit from the $$$ that follows. Yes, they care. They would love a winner.

But, caring ain't the problem. Incompetence is the problem. The last coach search fiasco should have cemented that in all our minds.

 

[norrislakevol]

it is even more frustrating when you see that Tennessee has the richest program in the SEC and yet cheaps out on hiring a top Head Coach, and settles for one with no experience at all, none.

Ranking the richest and poorest SEC football programs

• No. 8 Arkansas: $68.97 million.
• No. 7 Texas A&M: $73.7 million.
• No. 6 Florida: $83.76 million.
• No. 5 LSU: $85.74 million.
• No. 4 Georgia: $87.61 million.
• No. 3 Auburn: $92.53 million.
• No. 2 Alabama: $103.87 million.
• No. 1 Tennessee: $107.1 million.

This is just absolutely maddening. If we were actually successful we would be even richer. Texas aTm backed up the brinks truck to get Jimbo Fisher. Time will tell if that was a wise move for them, but at least they weren't affraid to do it, plus they are about 35 million dollars poorer then Tennessee. No excuse for Tennessee not to have a top notch coach.

 

[VolunteerCeltic]

UT admins know one thing that is everlastingly constant, the boosters will provide the money regardless of how much UT wins or loses. That blind support is incompetence in its most basic form, "Lets throw money at the problem and not expect any quantifiable results, oh btw we are going to give our football coach an extension and large buyout after year two!" If they approached hiring the head coach like a company does hiring a CEO with the understanding that the company rises or falls with the quality of the hire, then maybe we would not have been exposed to Schiano-Gate, Leach-Gate or Learn on the Job-Gate. Blind support and throwing money at a problem does not equal caring, but it does exacerbate incompetence.

 

[CAVPUT]

It's obvious who you want, and I think he'd be a great hire ... and will be for somebody somewhere.

That said, I don't know who is your guy right behind him. Who you got?
I'm not sure I have a guy behind him ... for me it's Gru ... er, I mean, Freeze or bust!

I'm ready to swallow my pride and take Kiffin. He knows this program. He knows the SEC. He's been inside Bama. He's matured and has been chomping at the bit for a second shot at this job. He'd certainly appreciate it now and I think he'd be extremely successful here if given another chance. Another plus is his offensive mindset. Tailor made for today's game.

 

[Smokey X]

for us the GOOD thing is that we opted out and didn't waste our time making the home games watching a miserable team make fans miserable

also for us, the BAD thing is that we opted out and transferred our tickets to next year instead of refunding...

 

[i2amavol]

Yes.

I really think our problems have more to do with the culture within the college (snowflake) than who our coach is. This is a lot harder or impossible to change. So yes, apathy is about to overcome my "eternal optimism".

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

Q: What do you think about ignorance and apathy?

A: I don't know and I don't care.

 

[HooahVol]

I think we are just realist now. There is no magic bullet. No wand to wave. We are in a hole.

On a positive I am starting to enjoy basketball. The round ball goes into the metal ring right?

 

[airvols]

Better things to do than live with disappointment every Saturday. No longer listen to all the shows, don’t follow recruiting, for sure don’t listen to the coaches press conference. I realized our new head coach had failed every english class he ever skipped at Alabama. The sad part it’s like loosing a piece of your personality because I was die hard, some would say radical.

 

[tbh]

Fact is, aside from occasionally tuning in for a laugh at the clown show that UT football has become, it hasn't figured into my Saturdays since the Kentucky game. It's not worth my time or energy to watch the games, just to see the same b.s. every week from the same utterly cluelessly impotent coaching staff and utterly uninspired players.

The UT AD apparently doesn't understand that the time to flush a toilet is when it's got a bit of waste in it, not when the sh*t has topped the seat, overflowed onto the floor, and crusted over.

 

[CAVPUT]

I think we are just realist now. There is no magic bullet. No wand to wave. We are in a hole.

On a positive I am starting to enjoy basketball. The round ball goes into the metal ring right?

We just need to stop digging and hire "proven" instead of "projects".

 

['Boro-vol]

I have been fortunate for the previous 3 seasons that my son has been playing Div. III college football. It has distracted me, and guided my attention away from the non-stop train wreck we are experiencing. This year, his senior year, Covid has forced a delay in the season. We will now play starting in February...so I haven't had my diversion. I am keenly aware of the state of things, rather than being otherwise occupied.

This Covid stupidity ruins everything.

 

[DougAtkins91]

Is it worse than previous coaches??? Please share your opinion...

Just an accumulation of two decades of apathy. It’s really sad!

 

[McDad]

I'm ready to swallow my pride and take Kiffin. He knows this program. He knows the SEC. He's been inside Bama. He's matured and has been chomping at the bit for a second shot at this job. He'd certainly appreciate it now and I think he'd be extremely successful here if given another chance. Another plus is his offensive mindset. Tailor made for today's game.

How are you arriving at the bold statement.

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

UT admins know one thing that is everlastingly constant, the boosters will provide the money regardless of how much UT wins or loses. That blind support is incompetence in its most basic form, "Lets throw money at the problem and not expect any quantifiable results, oh btw we are going to give our football coach an extension and large buyout after year two!" If they approached hiring the head coach like a company does hiring a CEO with the understanding that the company rises or falls with the quality of the hire, then maybe we would not have been exposed to Schiano-Gate, Leach-Gate or Learn on the Job-Gate. Blind support and throwing money at a problem does not equal caring, but it does exacerbate incompetence.

"Learn on the Job-Gate"

 

[tennrich1]

I would hate to see this board when there was no A-PATH-Y (my Barney Fife pronunciation). Man, we would have thread after thread with lathered up fans slobbering over the color of socks Jeremy had on....

 

[tennrich1]

When people ask me about ignorance and apathy I always tell them: "I don't know and I don't care!"

Sounds like the dyslexic, insomniac, agnostic who stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog!

 

[jtupnsmoke]

Mine is definitely at an all time low. My wife once broke up with me while we were dating because I refused to go to fall creek falls with her family because I'd miss the Vols game. I'm to the point now where I would go on the trip in a heartbeat. I'm done blocking out any plans just to watch this team lose.

 

[tennrich1]

Mine is definitely at an all time low. My wife once broke up with me while we were dating because I refused to go to fall creek falls with her family because I'd miss the Vols game. I'm to the point now where I would go on the trip in a heartbeat. I'm done blocking out any plans just to watch this team lose.

That's called personal growth my friend...I had the same disease...congratulations are in order!

 

[508mikey]

I have been fortunate for the previous 3 seasons that my son has been playing Div. III college football. It has distracted me, and guided my attention away from the non-stop train wreck we are experiencing. This year, his senior year, Covid has forced a delay in the season. We will now play starting in February...so I haven't had my diversion. I am keenly aware of the state of things, rather than being otherwise occupied.

This Covid stupidity ruins everything.

this a million times - politics, msm and sheep = a ruined United States in 2020 and looks like its going to extend to 2021 at this point