Is there something going on in Knoxville

[sonofUT62]

Do you agree that except for a few individual miscues, there was significant improvement?

The miscues aren’t the whole story. If it was Bailey throwing these pick 6s I wouldn’t say a word. Growing pains are part of a young QB. As far as the decision not to kick the FG against Arky, that just shows poor character. He should have owned up to it and admitted he was wrong. It’s clear he learned from Probst.

 

[KarnsTownVol]

It is pretty simple! Coach Jeremy Pruitt is not intelligent enough to understand the game. It is not CJP's fault he does does not get it!

This... it really is mind blowing how this man has got to the position he is in making 4 million a year leading a major football program. All the while no one noticed he struggles with the simplest concepts of the game.

 

[sonofUT62]

OP - Have you spent much time in Knoxville?

Every echelon of life there is colored in some subtle hue of Hunger Games meets Big Brother. It can’t be explained, but it is real.

Is UT not the area’s largest employer? I cannot imagine how magnified this phenomenon is in the UTAD.
There is always something going on in Knoxville.

I was born at St Mary’s, but we moved away when I was a baby. I live in JC now, and keep connected as much as I can but like I said, I don’t really know anyone in the AD.

 

[DeerPark12]

Uh.....

PHIL gave Pruitt a extension.

He still here?

Phil got one too.

Chancellor still here?

If winning is the expectation why did either just get contract extensions??????

Why Deer??

You're changing the argument. I was responding to your false posts about priorities and your accustaions of "The academic side is pushing zed language and hardcore leftist ideology."

All of the people that pushed those things at the highest levels of the academic side are gone and have been gone.

Fulmer agreed to an extension in the spring. At the time of the extension, every program on campus was in a better position than it was the day he was hired. That was the basis of his contract extension, he had improved every program.

You can certainly argue about the state of football over the last six weeks, but he didn't receive the extension in the last six weeks. He got it in March, and signed it in May.

 

[DarkAvenger]

That’s understandable but hear me out. I assume you’re talking about Arkansas because the only other time we seen him was vs Alabama. Maurer was thrown in there after Arkansas had already adjusted to a 35/5 run pass ratio. He was facing a 0 blitz because of the play calling to that point and had only seen 1 series of action since last year on top of being admittedly (by Pruitt) neglected from a preparation standpoint. How he looked given the circumstances changes nothing. In fact it should be understandable. Plus, We all know he’s NEVER looked good coming off the bench so why would we expect him to change when nothing has changed in management? In that same game Bailey came in in the final minutes when the game was decided and Arkansas was playing prevent. He was facing 3 rushers. So naturally he would look more poised than Maurer with 8 in the box, everybody coming and obviously no passing game was installed in the plan that week. I have a hard time blaming him knowing what he’s facing on a daily basis.

Bailey is better.

 

[Cormock Mac]

The miscues aren’t the whole story. If it was Bailey throwing these pick 6s I wouldn’t say a word. Growing pains are part of a young QB. As far as the decision not to kick the FG against Arky, that just shows poor character. He should have owned up to it and admitted he was wrong. It’s clear he learned from Probst.

In case you misunderstand my question(maybe I didn't phrase it correctly), I thought I asked if you agreed that the team showed improvement against Auburn. You didn't answer that.

 

[GAVol]

He was still under contract for 2 more years.

The extension helped recruiting in no way as he was already on for 2 more years.

No coach at a big time school is going to ever get to the last 2 years of their contract without getting an extension.

 

[DeerPark12]

The opposite. The players we recruited weren’t let into Tennessee but were let into Georgia, Bama, LSU, Fla.

That is completely false. No player in the last 20 years has been denied admission to Tennessee, then gone to another SEC school. Not one.

There were a couple of players in the early 2010s that ended up at Big 12 schools because they did not meet SEC requirements. The NCAA raised its requirements in the time since and evened the playing field.

There has not been a player that met the minimum SEC standards that has been denied admission to Tennessee. Has not happened, 100% false.

It is much harder to get into UT as a "normal" student today than it has ever been. But it hasn't impacted athletes at all.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Do you agree that except for a few individual miscues, there was significant improvement?

The point I’m making is we are 5-2 with a capable Qb. Pruitt is 100% responsible for starting JG and costing us 3 games. We knew 2 years ago JG was not an SEC caliber Qb.

 

[N.ohio vol]

The left hand doesnt know what the right ones doing. I would love to be a fly on the wall during a meeting with Pruitt and Fulmer. If im the a.d im ready to flip the table over im that pissed at the sub par bull crap i see every weekend..

 

[UTK]

Just lemme know.

 

[DarkAvenger]

In case you misunderstand my question(maybe I didn't phrase it correctly), I thought I asked if you agreed that the team showed improvement against Auburn. You didn't answer that.

I think they showed marginal improvement. Aside from 1-2 games they have been able to run all year. Pass pro is still awful, in game coaching is still awful, struggled holding the point of attack against the run. Auburn hit us with the slant still and should have used it more. I’m not firing Pruitt based on JG’s performance, I’m firing him on extensive counts of flat out coaching malpractice with roster mismanagement, in game clock management, tone deaf PR remarks to a fan base that has more invested in this university than he does as well as having so little of a hold on his football program he has a full on group of money grabbing mercenaries that apparently he is completely oblivious to.

 

[DougAtkins91]

That is completely false. No player in the last 20 years has been denied admission to Tennessee, then gone to another SEC school. Not one.

There were a couple of players in the early 2010s that ended up at Big 12 schools because they did not meet SEC requirements. The NCAA raised its requirements in the time since and evened the playing field.

There has not been a player that met the minimum SEC standards that has been denied admission to Tennessee. Has not happened, 100% false.

It is much harder to get into UT as a "normal" student today than it has ever been. But it hasn't impacted athletes at all.

Simply not fact.

 

[sonofUT62]

In case you misunderstand my question(maybe I didn't phrase it correctly), I thought I asked if you agreed that the team showed improvement against Auburn. You didn't answer that.

Well I didn’t really feel obligated to, because it wasn’t directed at me. But to be fair, Gray and the OL looked great. Outside of that I saw one of the worst busted coverages I’ve ever seen, continued success in the opposition passing game in the middle of the field, lethargic pass rush, one of the worst mistakes I’ve ever seen a QB make, choppy play calling and two missed FGs. Not really sure where that leaves us.

 

[DeerPark12]

He was already under contract.

You wait until the season is atleast half way through.

Nobody playing with their own money would ever do this. You dobt give an extension when you are already at a level of power in the negotiations.

He had not beaten a big team yet.

He had major losses.

There were no jobs opening who would want him or he would take.

He was still under contract for 2 more years.

The extension helped recruiting in no way as he was already on for 2 more years.

I would never, Ever, give an extension with that kind of leverage. Ever!

This shows these people are horrible at doing contracts and have been since the Kiffin buyout was so low. These people are amateurs playing with big time house money.

Then you would fail as a college athletics director.

You can be mad at the extensions if you want to be, that's your right. But don't act like Tennessee is in a unique position here. There's not an AD in the country that wouldn't have extended Pruitt back in the spring. No AD lets a guy go into a season with two years left on his contract. It just doesn't happen in major college athletics.

The Kiffin example is moot because no one in UT's upper administration that was here in 2008 when that deal was done is still employed here. Regardless, Kiffin's agent insisted on the low buyout and indicated it was a dealbreaker.

 

[DeerPark12]

Simply not fact.

Feel free to quote examples of players that were denied admission to UT that went to other SEC schools. They do not exist.

 

[1vol8]

Bailey is better.

And you know this based on what? 4 attempts vs UK where he was 1/4 with a near int? Or because he looked good checking down to a wide open RB vs a prevent defense? Or last night when Auburn hadn’t prepared to play vs him?

Seems to me UGA knew who they were facing last year. So did Miss St and Bama and none of them stopped him. So saying “Bailey is better” is a bit premature given the fact he hasn’t been given an opportunity to prove it just yet.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

That’s understandable but hear me out. I assume you’re talking about Arkansas because the only other time we seen him was vs Alabama. Maurer was thrown in there after Arkansas had already adjusted to a 35/5 run pass ratio. He was facing a 0 blitz because of the play calling to that point and had only seen 1 series of action since last year on top of being admittedly (by Pruitt) neglected from a preparation standpoint. How he looked given the circumstances changes nothing. In fact it should be understandable. Plus, We all know he’s NEVER looked good coming off the bench so why would we expect him to change when nothing has changed in management? In that same game Bailey came in in the final minutes when the game was decided and Arkansas was playing prevent. He was facing 3 rushers. So naturally he would look more poised than Maurer with 8 in the box, everybody coming and obviously no passing game was installed in the plan that week. I have a hard time blaming him knowing what he’s facing on a daily basis.

Maurer and the other three Qb’s likely have not received enough reps to feel completely comfortable but football history is full of backups coming in and responding immediately like they have always been a starter. Right now based on what I have seen this year , HB appears to be the only capable Qb. I was pro JT and BM coming in this year and thought with game experience they would be better than JG. After watching both in their limited playing time , I do not believe they are better than JG. HB is though.

 

[N.ohio vol]

He was already under contract.

You wait until the season is atleast half way through.

Nobody playing with their own money would ever do this. You dobt give an extension when you are already at a level of power in the negotiations.

He had not beaten a big team yet.

He had major losses.

There were no jobs opening who would want him or he would take.

He was still under contract for 2 more years.

The extension helped recruiting in no way as he was already on for 2 more years.

I would never, Ever, give an extension with that kind of leverage. Ever!

This shows these people are horrible at doing contracts and have been since the Kiffin buyout was so low. These people are amateurs playing with big time house money.

Spot on bulls eye.

 

[DarkAvenger]

Feel free to quote examples of players that were denied admission to UT that went to other SEC schools. They do not exist.

 

[volsack]

NOT athletes! I KNOW THIS EMPERICALLY! FACT!!!!

I know it too. The all caps reeks of stupidity and desperation to be seen as "right." Nobody likes you or thinks your smart "Doug," do us all a favor an stop posting because you're making us less intelligent every day

 

[DeerPark12]

I agree Pruitt is FOS. I thought JT was a darkhouse to be the best Qb on the team. He failed because according to Pruitt he did not send a receiver in motion on his one pass attempt and interception. If that is true then JT botched his chance. Maurer looked very shaky and not ready when he played earlier this year. That leaves Bailey who has been decent in his appearances in relief. That Bailey is the only decent Qb in are team does not surprise me when you compare their HS credentials.

Shrout was the backup by default entering the season because Maurer missed nearly all of camp with a hamstring and Bailey was out for three different stints for contact tracing and completed two padded practices.

 

[sonofUT62]

Then you would fail as a college athletics director.

You can be mad at the extensions if you want to be, that's your right. But don't act like Tennessee is in a unique position here. There's not an AD in the country that wouldn't have extended Pruitt back in the spring. No AD lets a guy go into a season with two years left on his contract. It just doesn't happen in major college athletics.

The Kiffin example is moot because no one in UT's upper administration that was here in 2008 when that deal was done is still employed here. Regardless, Kiffin's agent insisted on the low buyout and indicated it was a dealbreaker.

So Hamilton caved for Kiffins buyout, and then played hardball with Cut over buying out a WR coach’s contract?? Is this pretty close to being right?

 

[DarkAvenger]

And you know this based on what? 4 attempts vs UK where he was 1/4 with a near int? Or because he looked good checking down to a wide open RB vs a prevent defense? Or last night when Auburn hadn’t prepared to play vs him?

Seems to me UGA knew who they were facing last year. So did Miss St and Bama and none of them stopped him. So saying “Bailey is better” is a bit premature given the fact he hasn’t been given an opportunity to prove it just yet.

Based on the fact he actually looks calm in the pocket and delivered great throws to the TE’s even when Auburn blitzed the A gap, which they did, Maurer looks like a freaked out tweaker getting blitzed.

 

[DougAtkins91]

I know it too. The all caps reeks of stupidity and desperation to be seen as "right." Nobody likes you or thinks your smart "Doug," do us all a favor an stop posting because you're making us less intelligent every day

I’ll be here when you gone. Was here 25 years before you could spell Vols.