Is there something going on in Knoxville

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Ain’t done done skoal can cornbread starts JG and wants to get fired. This idiot makes 4 million a year to punk us!
 
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sonofUT62 said:
That the majority of us don’t have the money/influence to see? It just feels like there is something going on here that doesn’t meet the eye for those of us who aren’t connected. Is there booster/AD conflict? Is there state government/UT administration conflict. Is there school administration/ AD conflict. ESPN published a tell all article this week that details the situations that caused FSUs dramatic slide. It makes me wonder what’s going on behind the scenes thats gotten us to this point.
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It is pretty simple! Coach Jeremy Pruitt is not intelligent enough to understand the game. It is not CJP's fault he does does not get it!
 
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NEO said:
School wants to be Vandy and not Alabama and is on a woke mission.

Football is not the priority at all anymore.
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Absolutely, completely false. May have been trending that way a few years ago, but you have a President that doesn’t have an academic background that is focused heavily on fundraising and athletics. You have a chancellor who was hired in part because of her experience at schools with prominent athletic programs.

The present administration here is as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s.

What’s going on behind the scenes right now? People in decision-making roles taking a very deliberate approach to the situation. Everyone knows the constant instability of the last 15 years has dug this hole, and more changes aren’t going to dig it out.

Pruitt is getting next year, that’s all but certain. If you want to say UT isn’t committed to winning based on that, you’re entitled to your opinion. But this is no longer a place that is going to be allowed to flounder because people can’t get on the same page.
 
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I mean, Fulmer was in his 5th year when he won the national championship. He had a foundation but he actually improved on the situation and made us one of the nation's most dominating programs.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Absolutely, completely false. May have been trending that way a few years ago, but you have a President that doesn’t have an academic background that is focused heavily on fundraising and athletics. You have a chancellor who was hired in part because of her experience at schools with prominent athletic programs.

The present administration here is as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s.

What’s going on behind the scenes right now? People in decision-making roles taking a very deliberate approach to the situation. Everyone knows the constant instability of the last 15 years has dug this hole, and more changes aren’t going to dig it out.

Pruitt is getting next year, that’s all but certain. If you want to say UT isn’t committed to winning based on that, you’re entitled to your opinion. But this is no longer a place that is going to be allowed to flounder because people can’t get on the same page.
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Uh huh.

Deer....giving Pruitt an extension prior to season start and Phil getting an extension shows your comment is BS.

I have told people for years you were someone they could trust.

I cant say that anymore now.

Either they are clueless or dont care.....eitherway....the extension when it wasn't remotely needed is all the proof anyone needs.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
I only know one person who I would describe as a high ranking administration member. They are a department head who would definitely take offense to me using a gender specific pronoun to describe them. If the rest of the administration is as obsessed with being woke as they are then I can definitely see it.
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Oh Chit. Epidemic.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Absolutely, completely false. May have been trending that way a few years ago, but you have a President that doesn’t have an academic background that is focused heavily on fundraising and athletics. You have a chancellor who was hired in part because of her experience at schools with prominent athletic programs.

The present administration here is as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s.

What’s going on behind the scenes right now? People in decision-making roles taking a very deliberate approach to the situation. Everyone knows the constant instability of the last 15 years has dug this hole, and more changes aren’t going to dig it out.

Pruitt is getting next year, that’s all but certain. If you want to say UT isn’t committed to winning based on that, you’re entitled to your opinion. But this is no longer a place that is going to be allowed to flounder because people can’t get on the same page.
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Then we are in for another rough season. Guess Saturday's being free continues in 2021.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Absolutely, completely false. May have been trending that way a few years ago, but you have a President that doesn’t have an academic background that is focused heavily on fundraising and athletics. You have a chancellor who was hired in part because of her experience at schools with prominent athletic programs.

The present administration here is as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s.

What’s going on behind the scenes right now? People in decision-making roles taking a very deliberate approach to the situation. Everyone knows the constant instability of the last 15 years has dug this hole, and more changes aren’t going to dig it out.

Pruitt is getting next year, that’s all but certain. If you want to say UT isn’t committed to winning based on that, you’re entitled to your opinion. But this is no longer a place that is going to be allowed to flounder because people can’t get on the same page.
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I agree with everything you just wrote except Pruitt..

Support will be at an all time low, I don’t know how AD sells this guy. He’s turrible
 
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It all started when Dr. Joe Johnston left the seat of President at Tennessee. Then Dickey left as AD. Then Dr Julian as Band Director. Then John Ward and Bill Anderson. All left “Tennessee” where we have become today. We are “Tennessee” only in name. No longer what we were!
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Absolutely, completely false. May have been trending that way a few years ago, but you have a President that doesn’t have an academic background that is focused heavily on fundraising and athletics. You have a chancellor who was hired in part because of her experience at schools with prominent athletic programs.

The present administration here is as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s.

What’s going on behind the scenes right now? People in decision-making roles taking a very deliberate approach to the situation. Everyone knows the constant instability of the last 15 years has dug this hole, and more changes aren’t going to dig it out.

Pruitt is getting next year, that’s all but certain. If you want to say UT isn’t committed to winning based on that, you’re entitled to your opinion. But this is no longer a place that is going to be allowed to flounder because people can’t get on the same page.
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If Pruitt stays, any insight on what staff changes we could see next year? Would losing to Vandy change anything concerning keeping Pruitt?
 
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NEO said:
Uh huh.

Deer....giving Pruitt an extension prior to season start and Phil getting an extension shows your comment is BS.

I have told people for years you were someone they could trust.

I cant say that anymore now.

Either they are clueless or dont care.....eitherway....the extension when it wasn't remotely needed is all the proof anyone needs.
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Everyone on board with CJP's raise and extension should be relived of their duties.
 
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onthehill71 said:
The woke march was huge. Nov 4 was overwhelming endorsement of the woke folks in Tenn. I am sure gov haslam wanted to abandon athletics in knoxville. Just like Lamar I'm sure. Which trustee members and admin staff, in 2002 and ongoing have conspired to bring us to our current level of ineptitude?
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Admission requirements were dramatically changed in 2002 by the University for accepting athletes. Don’t forget the Bensel-Meyers incident that was in Sport Magazine either.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Absolutely, completely false. May have been trending that way a few years ago, but you have a President that doesn’t have an academic background that is focused heavily on fundraising and athletics. You have a chancellor who was hired in part because of her experience at schools with prominent athletic programs.

The present administration here is as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s.

What’s going on behind the scenes right now? People in decision-making roles taking a very deliberate approach to the situation. Everyone knows the constant instability of the last 15 years has dug this hole, and more changes aren’t going to dig it out.

Pruitt is getting next year, that’s all but certain. If you want to say UT isn’t committed to winning based on that, you’re entitled to your opinion. But this is no longer a place that is going to be allowed to flounder because people can’t get on the same page.
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You say they thwy are "as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s."

Some of the decisions they have made do not bare that out. Were they mistakes? Are they inept?
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Absolutely, completely false. May have been trending that way a few years ago, but you have a President that doesn’t have an academic background that is focused heavily on fundraising and athletics. You have a chancellor who was hired in part because of her experience at schools with prominent athletic programs.

The present administration here is as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s.

What’s going on behind the scenes right now? People in decision-making roles taking a very deliberate approach to the situation. Everyone knows the constant instability of the last 15 years has dug this hole, and more changes aren’t going to dig it out.

Pruitt is getting next year, that’s all but certain. If you want to say UT isn’t committed to winning based on that, you’re entitled to your opinion. But this is no longer a place that is going to be allowed to flounder because people can’t get on the same page.
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Just to follow up one more time.

I believe you believe this.

I just think you have been part of the system for so long that you csnt be neutral anymore. Not calling you a liar. I just think you are delusional now.

Sorry.....

If I am wrong and it does change I will come back and apologize. Until then, I think you are too deep in the problem.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Absolutely, completely false. May have been trending that way a few years ago, but you have a President that doesn’t have an academic background that is focused heavily on fundraising and athletics. You have a chancellor who was hired in part because of her experience at schools with prominent athletic programs.

The present administration here is as committed to athletics as any since the 1990s.

What’s going on behind the scenes right now? People in decision-making roles taking a very deliberate approach to the situation. Everyone knows the constant instability of the last 15 years has dug this hole, and more changes aren’t going to dig it out.

Pruitt is getting next year, that’s all but certain. If you want to say UT isn’t committed to winning based on that, you’re entitled to your opinion. But this is no longer a place that is going to be allowed to flounder because people can’t get on the same page.
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The problem has been the terrible people hired, not the turnover. Other schools have had coaching changes but nothing close to the disaster at Tennessee. Florida, for example since Meyer, has had 3 coaches since Tennessee hired Jones and 2 ADs. Why are they light years ahead of Tennessee today? Cause Florida doesn’t sit around hoping a loser turns into a winner. They surgically remove the loser immediately. Zook & McElwain were fired year 3. Tennessee takes aspirin and goes to bed hoping tomorrow is better.
 
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Rocky Top Raby said:
I mean, Fulmer was in his 5th year when he won the national championship. He had a foundation but he actually improved on the situation and made us one of the nation's most dominating programs.
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There is no way to scientifically prove which of us is right. Yes the program did continue to improve, but I thought I saw some slippage even as early as 1998(particularly the kicking game, but of course Cafego was gone by then). We were extremely lucky to win the Natty that yr. Several very close games that could have gone either way. I realize that luck plays a role for most any team that wins a Natty except maybe LSU last yr. They didn't seem to need any luck in order to destroy about anyone they played. Yr by yr(others noted it too), little by little, there was a decline until Fulmer was finally exposed as not quite being the coach that many thought he was. The foundation that Majors laid made it very easy for Fulmer to continue the success for a while.
 
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The attempt to deep six and hide Fulmer's extension (this was an interim role we were told, we are looking at year 3 with extension now going to 2023) while Pruitt was inexplicably extended and a number of coaches said no pay cuts or deferments, despite a $60 million hole in the budget, has caused a lot of boosters to look at the credibility and integrity issues surrounding these moves, it is not a financial thing it is a business judgment thing in an environment where dollars are very, very tight, salaries are well above Knoxville market, donors and boosters are being asked to leave their money in a special fund for "athletes" but be patient refunds are 90 day projects and these shenanigans and inconsistent messages are raising credibility concerns (again) within the administration, Blonde Donde and Fulmer have played the covid card, they are conveniently not on campus until the first week in December, hoping the storm will blow over. Meanwhile the football season is in the toilet, furthering the inquiries and concerns with what are we really doing here?
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Can you expound? How has it caused us to end up where we are? Has it caused too much/ too little oversight into the the ADs hiring/firing? Are we not able to take players with marginal academics like before? Is it squeezing facilities spending?
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For years the school was sucking tons of money from the athletic side to the academic side. Much more than bama etc. Bama was allowed to keep millions more per year and the academic side used bamas winning as free publicity for its online school. Ours whored the program out and took its money.

The bots appear to be very anti football.

Those are two major issues.

Just ask yourself why SC has much more on hand cash than UT? Yes we fired two coaches back to back but we are a national brand. If run remotely correctly the coffers should be full.

Even at 80 percent capacity our stadium holds more seats than 99 percent of stadiums and we constantly get to 90 plus percent attendance.

We also have the ESPN contract.

The Issue isnt why we dont have money but where did it go? Buy outs suck but our cupboard has been supposedly bare since Dooley left. Very concerning.
 
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