Iran

[Carl Pickens]

That doesn't answer the question. Iran's not going to end up with recognized control of the SoH.

Of course they won’t be, but if they have nukes they’ll do it anyway.
Because if their inefficient refining processes they need oil prices to be inflated to be profitable.
You cats need to graduate from checkers

 

[EasternVol]

Of course they won’t be, but if they have nukes they’ll do it anyway.
Because if their inefficient refining processes they need oil prices to be inflated to be profitable.
You cats need to graduate from checkers

Them closing the strait unilaterally when they're not at war would hurt them more than it would help them.

 

[Orangeburst]

Of course they won’t be, but if they have nukes they’ll do it anyway.
Because if their inefficient refining processes they need oil prices to be inflated to be profitable.
You cats need to graduate from checkers

yea, I could not imagine the extortion they would enact with nukes..tolls on shipping, more terrorism, etc. Immunity card.

An evil regime.

 

[bamawriter]

Them closing the strait unilaterally when they're not at war would hurt them more than it would help them.

Given their economic issues, controlling the Strait might be the regime's best source of income.

 

[EasternVol]

Given their economic issues, controlling the Strait might be the regime's best source of income.

They wouldn't get to play that game. Trying it would cost them more than what it would be worth. They can get a lot of revenue by selling oil.

 

[bamawriter]

They wouldn't get to play that game. Trying it would cost them more than what it would be worth. They can get a lot of revenue by selling oil.

They were making plenty of money selling oil and their economy was still terrible. While the current conflict pushed it off a cliff, it's not like it was the cause of their issues.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Given their economic issues, controlling the Strait might be the regime's best source of income.

It’s not rocket science

 

[volfanhill]

The control over the strait has nothing to do with nukes. Hell they've got a good handle on it now. "Pay us to use the striat or we nuke you." Well then you just get nuked yourself. That's how nuke threats work. They want them to prevent regime change.

 

[norrislakevol]

A pipe line is being built by the UAE which bypasses the Strait of Hormuz. It is expected to be up and going by 2027. If it has the capacity, then Iran is neutered from threatening control of the strait. In fact, in the future, Iranian oil may be blocked from exiting the gulf, while oil from other nations can just flow through the pipeline and bypass the strait.

 

[Smokey123]

I prefer “tell big enough lies often enough and people will believe it”

Anyone know who said that?

Your mom?

 

[FLVOL_79]

You really have no clue. Kiddie pools are deeper than your political insight

You can't read can you? Its a quote from an article..

But its gonna be proven right.

 

[MontyPython]

You do realize they’ve been working toward nukes…. Surely you’re not this naive.

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action included a substantial international oversight and verification regime, primarily carried out by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The agreement did not create completely unrestricted “anytime, anywhere” inspections, but it did establish unusually intrusive monitoring measures, including:

Continuous monitoring of key nuclear facilities
Regular on-site inspections by IAEA inspectors
Electronic surveillance and enrichment monitors
Environmental sampling
Tracking of uranium stockpiles and centrifuges
Expanded access under Iran’s implementation of the Additional Protocol
A dispute-resolution mechanism that could compel access to suspicious undeclared sites within a set timeframe

The IAEA repeatedly stated during the main implementation period (2016–2018) that it was able to access the sites it needed and verify Iran’s compliance with nuclear-related commitments.

 

[Carl Pickens]

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action included a substantial international oversight and verification regime, primarily carried out by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The agreement did not create completely unrestricted “anytime, anywhere” inspections, but it did establish unusually intrusive monitoring measures, including:

Continuous monitoring of key nuclear facilities
Regular on-site inspections by IAEA inspectors
Electronic surveillance and enrichment monitors
Environmental sampling
Tracking of uranium stockpiles and centrifuges
Expanded access under Iran’s implementation of the Additional Protocol
A dispute-resolution mechanism that could compel access to suspicious undeclared sites within a set timeframe

The IAEA repeatedly stated during the main implementation period (2016–2018) that it was able to access the sites it needed and verify Iran’s compliance with nuclear-related commitments.

We had newcreer pran too round eye Yankee dog.

 

[MontyPython]

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So... Obama's JCPOA was not working, but Trump's actions are?

Guess we'll have to wait and see what this new "agreement" looks like.

 

[EasternVol]

They were making plenty of money selling oil and their economy was still terrible. While the current conflict pushed it off a cliff, it's not like it was the cause of their issues.

Right. So there's no reason for them to do something which would jeopardize their oil sales income like trying to close the Straits during peacetime.

 

[bamawriter]

Right. So there's no reason for them to do something which would jeopardize their oil sales income like trying to close the Straits during peacetime.

You may be right. I just don't think the Republic acts on the same level when it comes to logic and sanity.

 

[volbound1700]

A lot of theories are out there that the US Government actually enjoys the chaos on oil as it is driving up Chinese Manufacturing costs. Now the domestic hit here is a problem for US government.

Honestly, this entire situation is a mess. Trump ran on not doing wars like this and here we are in Afghan/Vietnam 2.0, just no ground troops yet.

 

[Skooter]

Welp we hit a missile site and some Iranian boats planting mines.

 

[Orangeburst]

Well I seem to be wrong in my opinion, formed out of what many in the media are saying. These guys seem to know what they are talking about.

Iran's Oil Sector Can Likely Weather Production Shut-ins, but Gas Fields Are at Risk - Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University SIPA | CGEP %

Get the latest as our experts share their insights on global energy policy.

www.energypolicy.columbia.edu

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Lol. Begging Iran to open a strait they didnt control before Trumps misbegotten war. That Biden gas price talking point about to blow the F up. I'd wager Iran is hanging out just for that to happen, and once it does, "a deal gets struck". They already have more positional power in the ME than they did before the war. Iran hangs out, GOP gets wiped out in midterms, loses Presidency, gets dem sympathy in a few years, and they come out ahead in the end. smh.

"On Wednesday, Trump told reporters that he is in no rush to negotiate a deal with the Iranian regime until Tehran opens the Strait of Hormuz, through which 20 percent of the world’s oil and gas supplies travel. Its closure is a primary driver of high gas prices."

“I’m in no hurry,” he said. “You know, everyone thinks, ‘Oh the midterms, I’m in a hurry.’ I’m in no hurry.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/21/the-5-02-ghost-trumps-team-braces-for-a-symbolic-blow-to-one-of-their-favorite-economic-talking-points-00932878

I’m sure Trumpy will do what he always does and pay Iran to open hermoose.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Obama did the same thing. Are you suddenly concerned about Taiwan now?

You’re taking baby steps.

You’re beginning to realize that Trumps policies are as bad or worse than Obama’s.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Keep on hoping. Your comrade Obama would be proud of all of your hope. Maybe the next Democrat president can give a trillion dollars to Iran and maybe give them a little nuclear technology too. I'm sure you communist would be happy with that

I’m not for sure if trumpy will give Iran a trillion dollars, probably will be billions.

But we know how Trumpy likes to outdo Obama so he may give them a trillion dollars.

 

[MontyPython]

Just checking in.

Did we win the Iran War again today?

 

[MontyPython]

Poorly planned? You have no idea what you're talking about son. Talk to me when we are losing ships and airplanes left and right. I think you get confused between reality and what you're hoping for

Hmmm... Let's see....

Iran Pre War

Crazy leader.
Has nuclear program.
Hormuz open.

Gas $3.00/gallon here.

Iran Now

Crazy leader.
Has nuclear program.
Hormuz closed.

Gas $4.50/gallon here.

Tell us more about reality, sugar britches.

 

[MontyPython]

Since we can't unstart the war, continuously wringing our hands is a waste of time. With that in mind: what exactly would y'all actually want to happen at this point? I am ready to get out of there and hope that a) we have severely hampered their nuclear development and b) we have decimated their military and the regime leadership enough that a civil uprising is possible and could overthrow the regime. I don't want our military going in for that job.

I'd suggest:

(1) Re-establish the JCPOA;
(2) U.S. forces leave the Iranian area; and
(3) Re-establish sanctions on Russian oil and gas.

Iran and potentially Oman charging a Hormuz toll may very well remain for the time being as an unfortunate unintended consequence largely affecting China and our allies in the East. But this is their problem, not ours, to resolve as the result of Trump's stupidity.