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utvolpj said:
Fentanyl isn't coming from Venezuela. Alcohol isn't healthy but we aren't blowing up boats coming from Ireland

You really are a true believer in big govt huh?
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So you think fentanyl and alcohol are equivalent and Venezuela acts in good will? Lol what an argument you got there…
 
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McDad said:
Terroriznig the world might be justification. It would depend on the amount of terrorism over what amount of time and the type of terrorism. Threats and rattling sabers would not justify war to me.

Killing and maiming thousands of Americans would need similar details.

If war is indeed needed, it must be brutal, devastating, and unforgiving. Permanent change is required.
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Those attack goats though...whew boy!
 
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Volbucky said:
So you think fentanyl and alcohol are equivalent and Venezuela acts in good will? Lol what an argument you got there…
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Here's how it works IMO:

1. By CHOICE, I have NEVER done fentanyl, cocaine, crack, smack, lsd, pcp, weed, heroine, opium, etc, etc.
2. By CHOICE, I have sipped me some Irish on occasion. And the like.

The most effective way to fight drugs is to NOT do drugs. No market, no drugs. You will not cease hte smuggling of drugs any more effectively than you will stop black market guns in Chicago this coming weekend.

You can't eliminate supply chains set up and managed by our 3 letter friends. What did go on in that little 26 member SoCal Indian Reservation back when.

What did go on when we created our own issues with Iran like Reagan paying them millions to hold the hostages so he could beat Carter. Carter was a lock if he had got the hostages out, but they were held and then released within hours of Reagan winning. And that was just Round 1 of the whole Octopus/Inslaw ordeal. Trump would just be a keyring on Reagans belt loops. Our own government is our own governments worst enemy.


Wonder why we never bombed cargo ships from China smuggling in opium and fentanyl themselves.

And don't call me names. I hail from the right side a bit.
 
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hog88 said:
We could win without obliterating Iran as a country. We could win by tightening our blockade and forcing open the straight but we as a country/people don't have the patience nor the risk tolerance to win it that way.
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Are you defining winning as return to pre-djt-qar relationship or winning as defeating Iran as an enemy of the US once and for all?
 
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hog88 said:
The only definition of winning would be Iran no longer being an enemy/threat to the US or region.
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I disagree with your plan for winning, then. I think there are alternatives to war that might obtain that definition but it would be a very slow process.
 
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GVF said:
Here's how it works IMO:

1. By CHOICE, I have NEVER done fentanyl, cocaine, crack, smack, lsd, pcp, weed, heroine, opium, etc, etc.
2. By CHOICE, I have sipped me some Irish on occasion. And the like.

The most effective way to fight drugs is to NOT do drugs. No market, no drugs. You will not cease hte smuggling of drugs any more effectively than you will stop black market guns in Chicago this coming weekend.

You can't eliminate supply chains set up and managed by our 3 letter friends. What did go on in that little 26 member SoCal Indian Reservation back when.

What did go on when we created our own issues with Iran like Reagan paying them millions to hold the hostages so he could beat Carter. Carter was a lock if he had got the hostages out, but they were held and then released within hours of Reagan winning. And that was just Round 1 of the whole Octopus/Inslaw ordeal. Trump would just be a keyring on Reagans belt loops. Our own government is our own governments worst enemy.


Wonder why we never bombed cargo ships from China smuggling in opium and fentanyl themselves.

And don't call me names. I hail from the right side a bit.
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Lot of truth in this post.
 
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Volbucky said:
So you think fentanyl and alcohol are equivalent and Venezuela acts in good will? Lol what an argument you got there…
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No, since fentanyl isn't coming from Venezuela that's not the comparison you need to work with. Alcohol is more destructive than weed yet the USA only targets one. Tell me again how the "health and welfare" thing works
 
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utvolpj said:
Again, fentanyl isn't coming from Venezuela.

If you need a govt to save you from weed then you are really sad. Good grief refer madness
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I know of two women that died from smoking weed that had some level of fentanyl contamination. A friend told me this as they were long term customers of hers.

there was a local high school kid that nearly died from smoking weed that had fentanyl contamination too. Ironically, his being hospitalized and having an array of tests as a result led to the discovery of a malignant tumor in one of his lungs. It was caught incredibly early and most likely saved him from an early death. I know this family personally
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I know of two women that died from smoking weed that had some level of fentanyl contamination. A friend told me this as they were long term customers of hers.

there was a local high school kid that nearly died from smoking weed that had fentanyl contamination too. Ironically, his being hospitalized and having an array of tests as a result led to the discovery of a malignant tumor in one of his lungs. It was caught incredibly early and most likely saved him from an early death. I know this family personally
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Know why I never have to worry about fent being laced into my cannabis?

Because I'm able to legally buy it from a dispensary.
 
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