Iran

[Volbucky]

Fentanyl isn't coming from Venezuela. Alcohol isn't healthy but we aren't blowing up boats coming from Ireland

You really are a true believer in big govt huh?

So you think fentanyl and alcohol are equivalent and Venezuela acts in good will? Lol what an argument you got there…

 

[GVF]

Terroriznig the world might be justification. It would depend on the amount of terrorism over what amount of time and the type of terrorism. Threats and rattling sabers would not justify war to me.

Killing and maiming thousands of Americans would need similar details.

If war is indeed needed, it must be brutal, devastating, and unforgiving. Permanent change is required.

Those attack goats though...whew boy!

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So you think fentanyl and alcohol are equivalent and Venezuela acts in good will? Lol what an argument you got there…

In a societal macro sense, there is absolutely an argument to be made that alcohol is a bigger net negative.

 

[GVF]

So you think fentanyl and alcohol are equivalent and Venezuela acts in good will? Lol what an argument you got there…

Here's how it works IMO:

1. By CHOICE, I have NEVER done fentanyl, cocaine, crack, smack, lsd, pcp, weed, heroine, opium, etc, etc.
2. By CHOICE, I have sipped me some Irish on occasion. And the like.

The most effective way to fight drugs is to NOT do drugs. No market, no drugs. You will not cease hte smuggling of drugs any more effectively than you will stop black market guns in Chicago this coming weekend.

You can't eliminate supply chains set up and managed by our 3 letter friends. What did go on in that little 26 member SoCal Indian Reservation back when.

What did go on when we created our own issues with Iran like Reagan paying them millions to hold the hostages so he could beat Carter. Carter was a lock if he had got the hostages out, but they were held and then released within hours of Reagan winning. And that was just Round 1 of the whole Octopus/Inslaw ordeal. Trump would just be a keyring on Reagans belt loops. Our own government is our own governments worst enemy.


Wonder why we never bombed cargo ships from China smuggling in opium and fentanyl themselves.

And don't call me names. I hail from the right side a bit.

 

[McDad]

We could win without obliterating Iran as a country. We could win by tightening our blockade and forcing open the straight but we as a country/people don't have the patience nor the risk tolerance to win it that way.

Are you defining winning as return to pre-djt-qar relationship or winning as defeating Iran as an enemy of the US once and for all?

 

[McDad]

All the soldiers hit by Iranian IEDs, all those killed by Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, Shias in Iraq. All Iran.

Were those soldiers engaged as a fighting force with Iran or an Iranian ally?

 

[hog88]

Are you defining winning as return to pre-djt-qar relationship or winning as defeating Iran as an enemy of the US once and for all?

The only definition of winning would be Iran no longer being an enemy/threat to the US or region.

 

[McDad]

The only definition of winning would be Iran no longer being an enemy/threat to the US or region.

I disagree with your plan for winning, then. I think there are alternatives to war that might obtain that definition but it would be a very slow process.

 

[Carl Pickens]

How is it "unwinnable"?

Rodney pretty much sums up the USA’s problem going all the way back to the Korean War

 

[hog88]

I disagree with your plan for winning, then. I think there are alternatives to war that might obtain that definition but it would be a very slow process.

It's not my plan just stating that we could win that way. We could also win your way by obliterating them.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Lol what a psychopath

It's Biden s fault.