Iran

[rikberry31]

What are you talking about? Cessation of Israel attacks on Lebanon was part of the 10 point plan Trump endorsed

Show me where Trump agreed to the 10 point plan.

 

[ButchPlz]

i guess the mediators of the ceasefire lied about it.

 

[Orangeslice13]

i guess the mediators of the ceasefire lied about it.

It’s possible.
Or were misrepresented.
That’s why I keep waiting to see what actually happens. The truth tends to be 3 days behind the first report.

 

[ButchPlz]

Between backing strikes in a city center in one of the countries with the highest Christian populations in the region (which killed some big Christian figures fighting against Hezbollah) and threatening the Vatican, it seems like Evangelicals ought to work on redirecting (or at least making less hypocritical) their complaining about a war on Christianity.

 

[rikberry31]

Okay, but the one thing we have going for us is that most Iranians citizens are pro western believe it or not. What’s worse than a crazy regime? A crazy regime with a country that actually shares their sentiment. The actual civilians do not, in large numbers, especially in urban areas. American bombs destroying their lives would eliminate that.

This I will agree with. We get a lot of our (and so does Israel's) intel from Irainian citizens.

 

[hog88]

It’s possible.
Or were misrepresented.
That’s why I keep waiting to see what actually happens. The truth tends to be 3 days behind the first report.

Or longer

 

[CobbVol]

SIAP .....

I posted it earlier as well. The 10-point plan in the media is not the one being negotiated by the parties. NYT is even starting to catch on.

 

[rikberry31]

Are there other needs for uranium? Srs question as I do not know.

Not enriched to 60%. That's most of the way to weapons grade and good enough for a dirty bomb. Uranium for commercial power is generally enriched to 3-5%, highly enriched is to expensive to make and makes it impractical for use in a reactor.

 

[Delmar]

Again, that is what I said. His post before that about it being a workable basis, and that most points of contention are agreed, came from him, and then he also reposted Iran saying that. Read my post again

Lol, you can absolutely dismiss her idiotic spin as dumbassery when we all saw what Trump said himself

Frankly I don’t know how Barbie says what she says with a straight face.

 

[CobbVol]

 

[85SugarVol]

Even if they got that (they won't), they just got smoked on the battlefield.

That just makes it even worse.

We kicked their teeth in “on the battlefield”, and they’re going to come out on top in the end.

Incomprehensible ineptitude.

 

[Smokey123]

Yeah, that's what I cannot wrap my brain around.

It’s just how the brain for most people is wired

 

[utvolpj]

That just makes it even worse.

We kicked their teeth in “on the battlefield”, and they’re going to come out on top in the end.

Incomprehensible ineptitude.

Do you think we've received a full and honest reporting of this war? Just seems so much has been left out wrt the damage done to US or Israeli interests

 

[McDad]

Do you think we've received a full and honest reporting of this war? Just seems so much has been left out wrt the damage done to US or Israeli interests

Not a chance. But I don't think propaganda during "war" is unique to this admin.

 

[ButchPlz]

Not a chance. But I don't think propaganda during "war" is unique to this admin.

I don't think anyone thinks it is, but we're in a new world where the flow of information (both true and false) is higher than ever before in history. I also think people got put on edge by things like the Epstein files- and this administration's blundering about with those- to the point where most of us aren't interested in being lied to anymore.

EDIT: and I can't forget to mention the whole COVID mess, which started under Trump I. He botched that one bad.

 

[hog88]

It’s just how the brain for most people is wired

Thankfully for us there are (or was) enough people who's brain isn't wired that way.

 

[Delmar]

Wait. You think Trump does anything without working an angle to line his pockets? Lol.

Amazing to me that folks don’t understand that concept. It’s been the basis of his entire career, not just since 2016. Probably feels like he has to do it since Don Jr and Eric (Tweedledee and Tweedledumb) couldn’t operate a lemonade stand.

 

[Smokey123]

Thankfully for us there are (or was) enough people who's brain isn't wired that way.

Agreed

I also assume our brain has shifted over time. We can imagine what our FF would think of our government now and would be amazed at what we accepted and haven’t rebelled against

 

[hog88]

Agreed

I also assume our brain has shifted over time. We can imagine what our FF would think of our government now and would be amazed at what we accepted and haven’t rebelled against

Agreed and I wasn't just referring to our FFs. I'm thankful for the partisan fighters in Europe during the war, without those brave people our slog to Germany would have been a whole lot worse.

 

[TNJOKER]

Do those people know why we can’t cut ties?

I'm sure most don't. Most of our politicians are bought and paid for by them .

 

[volbound1700]

Did you notice that Japan and Germany surrendered without all that and that the Allies won the peace as well as the war?

Actually the Soviets did just thst to East Germany and we nuked Japan... so... again human right violations galore by all groups. Look uo the fire bombings of Dresdan, Hamburg, and Tokyo as well. Hell, even the Civil War had Sherman burning down Atlanta. Wars are won with atrocities. That is why you have to be very careful about starting them in the first place.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I'm sure most don't. Most of our politicians are bought and paid for by them .

That’s why we won’t. That doesn’t address why we can’t.
In fact at this point we need them more than they need us

 

[NashVol11]

Lmfao your argument is that calling something a basis for negations vs a starting point for negations are somehow significantly different?

That’s the type of pathetically stupid, time wasting nonsense that I would expect from you

You being a hypocrite and throwing a fit when someone notices is exactly what everyone here expects from you

 

[NashVol11]

Workable basis means nothing. We later heard that it was thrown in the trash. Nothing in it has been agreed to. Nothing

It was the entire stated basis for the ceasefire lmao, you are more than welcome to fall for Leavitt's BS but the rest of us don't have to

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Between backing strikes in a city center in one of the countries with the highest Christian populations in the region (which killed some big Christian figures fighting against Hezbollah) and threatening the Vatican, it seems like Evangelicals ought to work on redirecting (or at least making less hypocritical) their complaining about a war on Christianity.

What good would that do? The liberal world will just call it 'whining' at best and call it justified at worst.