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MontyPython said:

Trump is largely immune from US laws. What about the military?​

The same immunity may not exist for everyone under his command. Rep. Jason Crow, a Colorado Democrat, told CNN’s Kasie Hunt that members of the military have an obligation not to follow illegal orders.

“If you’re asked to target civilians, if you’re asked to kill women and children, you’re asked to kill noncombatants, you’re asked to bomb a school, you’re asked to bomb a civilian power plant, that would be a war crime,” Crow said. Service members, he said, have Independent obligations to follow the law of armed conflict.
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Should we have prosecuted our bomber pilots in WWII?
 
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MontyPython said:
TACO TIME.

Donald Trump is so pathetic and so predictable. Lie after lie after lie after lie.

Once again his little tiny nuts get squashed in a vice and the morons who support him well... There ain't no fixing stupid.

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This feels like the posting style of a mentally healthy adult
 
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OrangeTsar said:
How’s

that energy situation working out?
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The energy situation? Per chatgpt:

The war involving Iran (which escalated in late February 2026) has had a large and rapid impact on global energy prices, especially oil, gas, and downstream fuels. Here’s a clear breakdown of what’s happened so far:



🔺 1) Oil prices: sharp surge (40% → 70%+ increases)​


  • Before the war: oil was roughly $65–$75 per barrel.
  • Within weeks: prices jumped to $100–$120+ (≈40–70% increase).
  • Recent levels:
    • Around $110–$115 per barrel for benchmarks
    • In extreme cases, physical oil cargoes near $140–$150+

👉 This is being described as one of the largest oil shocks in history, even worse than 1970s crises by some analysts.



🔺 2) Why prices jumped so much​


The main driver is supply disruption risk, not just actual shortages:


• Strait of Hormuz disruption​


  • ~20% of global oil flows through it
  • Closures and attacks have removed 10–15% of global supply at times

• Damage to infrastructure​


  • Strikes on oil fields, refineries, and export terminals
  • Repairs could take months or years in some cases

• “Risk premium”​


  • Even when supply isn’t fully cut, markets price in danger
  • This keeps prices elevated even between disruptions


🔺 3) Gasoline, diesel, and everyday energy costs​


The oil shock is feeding directly into consumer prices:


  • U.S. gasoline: around $4.14/gallon and rising
  • Diesel & jet fuel: near record highs globally
  • Natural gas (LNG): up roughly ~60% since the war began

👉 This is why you’re seeing knock-on effects:


  • Higher airline ticket prices
  • Increased shipping costs (Amazon, UPS, etc.)
  • Rising food prices (fertilizer + transport costs)


🔺 4) Broader economic impact​


Energy prices are spilling into the wider economy:


  • Inflation rising globally due to fuel costs
  • Risk of stagflation (slow growth + high inflation)
  • Stock markets down since the conflict began


🔺 5) Volatility and worst-case scenarios​


Markets are extremely unstable:


  • Prices swing daily with military developments
  • Analysts warn oil could reach $150–$200 if disruptions worsen
  • Even if fighting stops, prices may stay elevated due to damaged supply chains


✅ Bottom line​


  • Energy prices have spiked dramatically since the war began
  • Oil is up roughly 40%–70%+, with spikes even higher in physical markets
  • This is feeding directly into gasoline, food, and overall inflation worldwide
  • The key factor isn’t just current shortages—it’s uncertainty and risk to global supply
 
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Orangeburst said:
i can agree with that definition, but that isnt what some are implying. it is a binary choice for them.

to the war crimes, that lacks any nuance. I am sure the Pentagon is in consultation with JAG to define what is allowed. Look at the US bombing Serbian infrastucture as an example, or any war really including LBJ bombing NV.
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It seems like this scenario is a TACO.
 
#21,113
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MontyPython said:
Place your bets!

What blatant lie will Donald concoct tonight for why he will NOT actually bomb Iran back "to the Stone Ages [sic]".

(1) "Iran called me. They said ‘Sir, please.’ They called me—top people, very top people—and they said, ‘Sir, please don’t do this.’ And I said, ‘Okay, but you have to respect us.’ And they agreed. Total respect now.”

(2) "I have fired my so-called 'Secretary of War' for his incompetent war-mongering and leading our country into this military operation that I NEVER WANTED!!! I have hereby appointed his replacement Snoop Dogg. Great negotiator. Very calm under pressure.”

(3) “We already won. Nobody’s ever won like this. Frankly, we don’t even need to bomb. Iran is already very scared—very, very scared. People are saying they’ve never seen fear like this. So we won. Total victory. Huge.”

(4) “The generals said it would be TOO successful. I had the best generals come in—tough guys—and they said, ‘Sir, if you do this, it will be too powerful. Too devastating.’ And I said, wow… maybe we tone it down.”

(5) “I decided to be nice. Nobody’s nicer than me. I could do it. I could do it in one hour. But I said, you know what? Let’s show compassion. I’m a very compassionate person—people don’t say it enough.”

(6)“The weather was unbelievable. You wouldn’t believe it. Terrible weather. The worst. The bombs wouldn’t look good. I said, we can’t do it unless it looks perfect. It has to look perfect.”

(7) “We have a stronger secret plan (you’ll never see it). We’re doing something much bigger. Much smarter. I can’t tell you what it is—but when you see it, you’ll say, ‘Wow, that’s genius.’”

(8) “I was about to press the button, the best button. I was literally there, finger on the button—beautiful button, by the way—and I said, you know what? Let’s give peace a chance. And everyone clapped.”
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How about this from stock thread earlier..

BigOrangeMojo said:
Now setting up the "heated negotiations" and potential short term Pakistani ceasefire angle...
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85SugarVol said:
@RockyTop85 was right - the board has never been more united lol.

But I still maintain (and you will still disagree) that it was never to the degree that many on here claimed. Certainly not the 5 to 1 that was routinely thrown around.
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I remember checking one Nate Silver’s approval ratings average about 4 days after the war started and he seemed kind of surprised there hadn’t been much movement. Not enough people had run out of gas.
 
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General Jack said:
The energy situation? Per chatgpt:

The war involving Iran (which escalated in late February 2026) has had a large and rapid impact on global energy prices, especially oil, gas, and downstream fuels. Here’s a clear breakdown of what’s happened so far:



🔺 1) Oil prices: sharp surge (40% → 70%+ increases)​


  • Before the war: oil was roughly $65–$75 per barrel.
  • Within weeks: prices jumped to $100–$120+ (≈40–70% increase).
  • Recent levels:
    • Around $110–$115 per barrel for benchmarks
    • In extreme cases, physical oil cargoes near $140–$150+

👉 This is being described as one of the largest oil shocks in history, even worse than 1970s crises by some analysts.



🔺 2) Why prices jumped so much​


The main driver is supply disruption risk, not just actual shortages:


• Strait of Hormuz disruption​


  • ~20% of global oil flows through it
  • Closures and attacks have removed 10–15% of global supply at times

• Damage to infrastructure​


  • Strikes on oil fields, refineries, and export terminals
  • Repairs could take months or years in some cases

• “Risk premium”​


  • Even when supply isn’t fully cut, markets price in danger
  • This keeps prices elevated even between disruptions


🔺 3) Gasoline, diesel, and everyday energy costs​


The oil shock is feeding directly into consumer prices:


  • U.S. gasoline: around $4.14/gallon and rising
  • Diesel & jet fuel: near record highs globally
  • Natural gas (LNG): up roughly ~60% since the war began

👉 This is why you’re seeing knock-on effects:


  • Higher airline ticket prices
  • Increased shipping costs (Amazon, UPS, etc.)
  • Rising food prices (fertilizer + transport costs)


🔺 4) Broader economic impact​


Energy prices are spilling into the wider economy:


  • Inflation rising globally due to fuel costs
  • Risk of stagflation (slow growth + high inflation)
  • Stock markets down since the conflict began


🔺 5) Volatility and worst-case scenarios​


Markets are extremely unstable:


  • Prices swing daily with military developments
  • Analysts warn oil could reach $150–$200 if disruptions worsen
  • Even if fighting stops, prices may stay elevated due to damaged supply chains


✅ Bottom line​


  • Energy prices have spiked dramatically since the war began
  • Oil is up roughly 40%–70%+, with spikes even higher in physical markets
  • This is feeding directly into gasoline, food, and overall inflation worldwide
  • The key factor isn’t just current shortages—it’s uncertainty and risk to global supply
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Bruh this is Monty’s schtick

Go get your own gimmick.
 
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General Jack said:
The energy situation? Per chatgpt:

The war involving Iran (which escalated in late February 2026) has had a large and rapid impact on global energy prices, especially oil, gas, and downstream fuels. Here’s a clear breakdown of what’s happened so far:



🔺 1) Oil prices: sharp surge (40% → 70%+ increases)​


  • Before the war: oil was roughly $65–$75 per barrel.
  • Within weeks: prices jumped to $100–$120+ (≈40–70% increase).
  • Recent levels:
    • Around $110–$115 per barrel for benchmarks
    • In extreme cases, physical oil cargoes near $140–$150+

👉 This is being described as one of the largest oil shocks in history, even worse than 1970s crises by some analysts.



🔺 2) Why prices jumped so much​


The main driver is supply disruption risk, not just actual shortages:


• Strait of Hormuz disruption​


  • ~20% of global oil flows through it
  • Closures and attacks have removed 10–15% of global supply at times

• Damage to infrastructure​


  • Strikes on oil fields, refineries, and export terminals
  • Repairs could take months or years in some cases

• “Risk premium”​


  • Even when supply isn’t fully cut, markets price in danger
  • This keeps prices elevated even between disruptions


🔺 3) Gasoline, diesel, and everyday energy costs​


The oil shock is feeding directly into consumer prices:


  • U.S. gasoline: around $4.14/gallon and rising
  • Diesel & jet fuel: near record highs globally
  • Natural gas (LNG): up roughly ~60% since the war began

👉 This is why you’re seeing knock-on effects:


  • Higher airline ticket prices
  • Increased shipping costs (Amazon, UPS, etc.)
  • Rising food prices (fertilizer + transport costs)


🔺 4) Broader economic impact​


Energy prices are spilling into the wider economy:


  • Inflation rising globally due to fuel costs
  • Risk of stagflation (slow growth + high inflation)
  • Stock markets down since the conflict began


🔺 5) Volatility and worst-case scenarios​


Markets are extremely unstable:


  • Prices swing daily with military developments
  • Analysts warn oil could reach $150–$200 if disruptions worsen
  • Even if fighting stops, prices may stay elevated due to damaged supply chains


✅ Bottom line​


  • Energy prices have spiked dramatically since the war began
  • Oil is up roughly 40%–70%+, with spikes even higher in physical markets
  • This is feeding directly into gasoline, food, and overall inflation worldwide
  • The key factor isn’t just current shortages—it’s uncertainty and risk to global supply
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How long did it take you to type that?

Oh wait, you didn’t: you are just another lazy copy and paste warrior incapable of using your own words.

But I guess “artificial” intelligence is the only kind some people have access to considering their own dearth of a natural supply.
And this is nowhere close to the shock of the 1970s dude! I was there.
 
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Trumpy backed himself into a corner

Then turned around and bent over

Next on the agenda is sending a pallet of cash to Iran and all the trumpets will cheer.

Trump needs to leave the ME now but his ego will not let him.

He’s gotta make a shi$$y deal and spin it into he is winning.

I guess on brighter side we only have 1018 days until the next idiot takes office
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
Trumpy backed himself into a corner

Then turned around and bent over

Next on the agenda is sending a pallet of cash to Iran and all the trumpets will cheer.

Trump needs to leave the ME now but his ego will not let him.

He’s gotta make a shi$$y deal and spin it into he is winning.

I guess on brighter side we only have 1018 days until the next idiot takes office
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OrangeTsar said:
How long did it take you to type that?

Oh wait, you didn’t: you are just another lazy copy and paste warrior incapable of using your own words.

But I guess “artificial” intelligence is the only kind some people have access to considering their own dearth of a natural supply.
And this is nowhere close to the shock of the 1970s dude! I was there.
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Good catch. Except I explicitly cited chatgpt.

If you want to perpetuate a narrow losing argument while the world burns knock yourself out.
 
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