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BeardedVol said:
It's moot, the 5000 had already been released as of September 2020, and US troops had been reduced to 2500 on January 15th 2021 before Biden assumed office. Bagram itself needs 5000 personnel to run, there was no way to leave the 2500 personnel in place, and maintain security or operations.
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He couldn’t send more people?
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's moot, the 5000 had already been released as of September 2020, and US troops had been reduced to 2500 on January 15th 2021 before Biden assumed office. Bagram itself needs 5000 personnel to run, there was no way to leave the 2500 personnel in place, and maintain security or operations.
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The Taliban didn't start advancing on Kabul until August 6th 2021, why did they wait 7 months?

Do those water pails ever get heavy?
 
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hog88 said:
The Taliban didn't start advancing on Kabul until August 6th 2021, why did they wait 7 months?

Do those water pails ever get heavy?
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Reality:

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To quote Trump himself:
"How about that? Worse than Afghanistan, where, by the way, I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process. Donald Trump: (22:53) 21 years is enough. Don't we think? 21 years. They couldn't stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things...yeah."
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BeardedVol said:
Reality:

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To quote Trump himself:
"How about that? Worse than Afghanistan, where, by the way, I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process. Donald Trump: (22:53) 21 years is enough. Don't we think? 21 years. They couldn't stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things...yeah."
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Donald Trump Wellington, Ohio Rally Speech Transcript | Rev

Donald Trump held a rally in Wellington, Ohio on June 26, 2021. Read the full transcript here.
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LOL so they increased their attacks AFTER the Biden admin changed the timeline and plan.

Biden owns the debacle, stop carrying his water. If everything would have went perfectly you'd have been the first one here crowing about how Biden saved the day by changing Trumps timeline and plan.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Back in 2021, being before Trump's second term, we still pretended that the US government had actual continuity between presidents, and Biden was beholden to honor the plan that Trump put in motion.

The troop draw down from 8600 in June of 2020, to 2500 in January of 2021 was 100% Trump's decision, a move even Congressional Republicans were against.

That was a failure on Biden's part. He should have just said Trump's plan is stupid, and I'm not going to do it, and just lived with the blow back from Republicans who would have most assuredly blamed him for "keeping US troops in Afghanistan."
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Uh, no.

Maybe up until 2021 we still pretended there was actual continuity. Biden's Day 1 EO's shattered that pretext, though. Just another escalation of partisan hackery. Trump continued it in 2025 and it will continue unabated.....
 
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hog88 said:
LOL so they increased their attacks AFTER the Biden admin changed the timeline and plan.

Biden owns the debacle, stop carrying his water. If everything would have went perfectly you'd have been the first one here crowing about how Biden saved the day by changing Trumps timeline and plan.
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So, just to get this straight, you are complaining about the chaos of the pullout that occurred in August, but would have rather Biden tried to adhere to the May 1st deadline set by Trump's Taliban deal, and have an even more chaotic exit?
 
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TACO TUESDAY

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he expected that U.S. military forces will leave Iran in “two or three weeks.”

“We leave because there’s no reason for us to do this,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

“We’ll be ‌leaving very soon,” the president said.

😆

Pretty sure that this has been the mantra of smart people since DAY ONE you big dumbass.

Meanwhile, back in MAGA Land...

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BeardedVol said:
So, just to get this straight, you are complaining about the chaos of the pullout that occurred in August, but would have rather Biden tried to adhere to the May 1st deadline set by Trump's Taliban deal, and have an even more chaotic exit?
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You are far from having anything straight, which isn’t unexpected.

I have no idea what would have happened with the withdrawal had Trump still been in office, it would have probably gone just as bad. My point in this entire conversation was pointing out how you carry Bidens water. Once Biden deviated from Trumps plan and deal he owned it and its results, no one else can take the blame you tried to deflect from him. As I said earlier, had it gone great you’d have raced LG to get the first post in declaring how Biden saved the day.
 
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interesting perpective. could never be proven, but it is plausible this action delays a CCP invasion of Taiwan. just never know geostrategic implications on the surface, good or bad.

I wouldnt support any Tawainese intervention, but talk about economic cataclysm. not sure how we avoid it.
 
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