Iran

They don’t have nukes because we bombed them now and in June last summer
According to US intelligence and the best and brightest of the administration. You asked me if I wanted them to have them and I’ve endeavored to answer your question. Now I’m off to a parent teacher conference with the ex Mrs SonofUT62.
 
Trump crapped all over the toilet seat and now wants others to clean up the mess.


He started off saying we would open it quickly, could do it in a few seconds, Strait of Trump, and then a couple days went by without much progress and now suddenly it's not our responsibility lol
 
I'm all for him pulling out ASAP. However he just made everything worse. No regime change. Just one that's even more convinced it needs a nuke. And a new source of revenue for the regime that will drive oil prices up.
Ain’t that the sad truth…

All he’s accomplished is pushing Iran to the point where they proved that yes, they were capable of pretty much closing off the strait.

And now, they’ll make us pay to use it going forward.
 
according to Trump they started this war with our Tomahawks. so maybe he was playing some of that 4D chess already.
Not likely. I just think if we’re going to waste this much money, maybe this time we leave it for the people who might use it to help themselves by overthrowing their oppressors.

It never seems to work out when we try to tell them what they want and then force it on them
 
According to US intelligence and the best and brightest of the administration. You asked me if I wanted them to have them and I’ve endeavored to answer your question. Now I’m off to a parent teacher conference with the ex Mrs SonofUT62.
Words are important and I didn’t ask if you wanted Iran to have them. My question was framed “is it unacceptable for Iran to acquire nukes”? Most of the world agrees that it’s not. You mentioned Saudi. They’ve said if Iran gets them then they will get them too

Can we believe the intelligence that states Iran was very close? Good question. I will say that Mossad intelligence has been very accurate in this war. They seem to know where every Iranian leader is. I have a lot of confidence in their intelligence
 
Can we believe the intelligence that states Iran was very close? Good question. I will say that Mossad intelligence has been very accurate in this war. They seem to know where every Iranian leader is. I have a lot of confidence in their intelligence
We and/or Israel has been claiming Iran was "very close" for 40+ years. We said we set them back by "years, I repeat, years" in June 2025


IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir: “I can say here that the assessment is that we significantly damaged the nuclear program, and I can also say that we set it back by years, I repeat, years.”
 
We and/or Israel has been claiming Iran was "very close" for 40+ years. We said we set them back by "years, I repeat, years" in June 2025


I would venture a guess that that assessment changed. This happens. I can’t imagine that either Israel or our country would want to start such an undertaking unless they felt the threat was imminent
 
I would venture a guess that that assessment changed. This happens. I can’t imagine that either Israel or our country would want to start such an undertaking unless they felt the threat was imminent
Huh? Israel has transparently wanted to do this forever, which is why Netanyahu has been claiming Iran is weeks away from nukes since at least the '90s. They don't even have to send troops because we'll do it for them.
 
Words are important and I didn’t ask if you wanted Iran to have them. My question was framed “is it unacceptable for Iran to acquire nukes”? Most of the world agrees that it’s not. You mentioned Saudi. They’ve said if Iran gets them then they will get them too

Can we believe the intelligence that states Iran was very close? Good question. I will say that Mossad intelligence has been very accurate in this war. They seem to know where every Iranian leader is. I have a lot of confidence in their intelligence


I have zero interest when it comes to Israeli intelligence/CIA
 
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So if you’re keeping score at home
-Trump made Biden **** up the Afghanistan withdrawal
And
-the Jews made Trump attack Iran.

How did we elect such weak ass ****** leaders
because we are more worried about making sure the other side DOESN'T win than we care about actually electing qualified individuals.

I won't stretch that beyond "qualified". we aren't even to the level of "good candidates", or worrying about what type of human they are, or if we should actually want them in office, or even if we align with a good majority of their stances.
 
you realise Trump's terrible plan had us pulling out May 1st 2021. but Biden actually pulled us out 3 months later at the end of August. and considering they had all of 2021 to actually handle the plan, I am struggling to see how the actual pull out is on Trump.

were previous parts and pieces of the Afghan mess up on Trump? Yes. The pullout? Doesn't really make sense. Biden clearly edited it, so it seems like it his issue.
 
I have zero interest when it comes to Israeli intelligence/CIA
These idiots will tell you out of one side of their mouth how great our intel is then out of the other how corrupt and deep-state evil they are (53 intel agency letter, Russiagate, etc.). The problem is they are actually stupid enough to think that because big boy orange guy is president suddenly the intel is valuable and true.

Nevermind the very open, very public recent fractures, either. This action against Iran was idiotic from day 1 and has achieved literally nothing but exposing the morons in our country that should lose their right to vote and procreate.
 

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