Iran

[utvolpj]

While I will agree that Iraq II was a waste but Afghanistan was not. We were attacked on our own soil. Were we supposed stand for that? That withdrawal was a slap in the face of every soldier that sacrificed to payback those who attacked us. At the very least we should have kept the airbase, we could have really used it the past year. It would have been memorial to those who served and and a deterrent to the terrorists.

Afg would have been over in 3mos if executed correctly. There was zero reason to make that an extended war. The slap in the face occured when their lives and sacrifice were ahown to be worthless in the war machine

 

[rikberry31]

Russia invaded Eastern Ukraine and started occupying part of the Donbas in 2014, just after they seized Crimea.

Ukraine's deadliest day: The battle of Ilovaisk, August 2014

Some 400 troops died at Ilovaisk in 2014 when Ukrainian forces retreated through a "safe" corridor.

www.bbc.com

Russia escalated their 8 year old invasion in 2022, not 2024.

Putin would have not dare invaded in 2022 had he not seen our weakness. Add to that we watched the build up on the border for months and said nothing.

 

[MontyPython]

Oh really?

Tell us:

(1) Does the goal of this war include regime change?

(2) Does the goal of this war include eliminating the threat of Iranian nuclear weapons?

(3) Does the goal of this war include ensuring the free-flow of oil vessels through the Strait of Hormuz?

What are our goals?

Do. Tell. Be specific.

Provide links if you intend to make claims about... well... anything.

Oh come on, @rikberry31 why are you avoiding the truth?

Cat got your tongue I see.

It's all good. I understand. Trying to defend the moronic Trump administration is a tough nut to crack.

Hang in there, Juicebox.

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

Are you able to identify the people who are pulling the strings?

What I mean is that the president isn’t the only one shaping decisions. Big policies especially things like war are influenced by a whole network of people and institutions. Congress, the defense and intelligence agencies, lobbyists, large industries, think tanks, and political donors. Corporations and interest groups absolutely try to influence policy through lobbying and campaign funding, but so do unions, advocacy groups, and others. So it’s less about one hidden group pulling strings and more about a system where a lot of powerful interests are competing to influence decisions.

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

Let me guess. You learned this on You Tube.

The irony of the most radically brainwashed foxnews loving right wing extremist saying anything about where I get info from is hilarious. But no, not YouTube. Go ahead, call me a liberal like you’ve been trained to do, which once again I am not.

 

[LouderVol]

The war started in February 2024. I am not talking about Crimea which started as a separatist uprising in Ukraine which the Russians took advantage of in 2014. Putin invaded Ukraine in 2024 in large part because he saw an opportunity because he perceived weakness in the U.S administration.

dude, you still can't get the dates right even after a second attempt. Russia was in the suburbs of Kyiv in spring of 2022.

even without addressing the little green men and medals Russia gave out to those "separatists", there was a lot more happening in Ukraine than just Crimea. parts of three or four of their other states were occupied by Russian forces.

I know its impossible to keep up with all the lies Putin gave out justifying this and that and the other, but the basic timeline is pretty easy to look back and review.

 

[NashVol11]

 

[volfanhill]

Needs to be eliminated completely

 

[BeardedVol]

Putin would have not dare invaded in 2022 had he not seen our weakness. Add to that we watched the build up on the border for months and said nothing.

Putin was already occupying Crimea and part of the Donbas. He escalated the invasion in 2022, because the FSB 5th Service command in charge of Ukrainian operations had been lying to him and telling him that Ukrainians would roll over and accept Russia installing a Ukrainian Lukashenko. Sergey Beseda and his deputy were arrested for doing so.

The faulty intelligence led to Russia sending in conscripts with little gear, but parade uniforms for a march in Kyiv that was to take place within 2 weeks, and the VDV getting obliterated at the Battle of Hostomel Airport, when they attempted to decapitate the Ukrainian government.

 

[MAD]

More off the charts hypocrisy​

Funny how Mehdi's logic seemingly doesn't apply to Gaza.

 

[n_huffhines]

Gender reaffirming surgery in Somalia?

My party didn’t pour money into it, ick. Nice deflection, I wouldn’t know how defend that either.

Actually, it passed the senate 75-22, with Republicans voting 31 for and 15 against.

And it didn't earmark $ for surgery. It mentioned funds could be used for gender affirming care, which there are MANY forms of that, like for example mental health treatment. The odds any significant amount of $ actually going to trans surgery in Somalia are probably pretty low.

I'd love to get rid of the large majority of foreign aid (over time), but going back to the well on this AGAIN because people are concerned about the insane big picture spending spree we are on right now....you're useful to them.

 

[LouderVol]

Needs to be eliminated completely

AMERICA FIRST!!!! WOOOHOOO FOREIGN SHIPPING!!!!!! USA USA USA USA

 

[BeardedVol]

Actually, it passed the senate 75-22, with Republicans voting 31 for and 15 against.

And it didn't earmark $ for surgery. It mentioned funds could be used for gender affirming care, which there are MANY forms of that, like for example mental health treatment. The odds any significant amount of $ actually going to trans surgery in Somalia are probably pretty low.

I'd love to get rid of the large majority of foreign aid (over time), but going back to the well on this AGAIN because people are concerned about the insane big picture spending spree we are on right now....you're useful to them.

Remember, nothing before 1/20/2025 existed.

Nothing.

How Marco Rubio flipped his stance on USAID

Secretary of State Marco Rubio was once a longtime supporter of the recently gutted U.S. Agency for International Develo

www.politifact.com

 

[McDad]

What I mean is that the president isn’t the only one shaping decisions. Big policies especially things like war are influenced by a whole network of people and institutions. Congress, the defense and intelligence agencies, lobbyists, large industries, think tanks, and political donors. Corporations and interest groups absolutely try to influence policy through lobbying and campaign funding, but so do unions, advocacy groups, and others. So it’s less about one hidden group pulling strings and more about a system where a lot of powerful interests are competing to influence decisions.

Agreed. Thanks.

 

[rekinhavoc]

We need more Somalian learing centers for sure.

Biden’s $6 Billion Ransom Payment to Iran Fuels Their Terror Machine | The Heritage Foundation Biden’s $6 Billion Ransom Payment to Iran Fuels Their Terror Machine

 

[KB5252]

Actually, it passed the senate 75-22, with Republicans voting 31 for and 15 against.

And it didn't earmark $ for surgery. It mentioned funds could be used for gender affirming care, which there are MANY forms of that, like for example mental health treatment. The odds any significant amount of $ actually going to trans surgery in Somalia are probably pretty low.

I'd love to get rid of the large majority of foreign aid (over time), but going back to the well on this AGAIN because people are concerned about the insane big picture spending spree we are on right now....you're useful to them.

Let's be real, any bill supporting anything overseas there is a good chance most if not all of that money is being laundered and going for something else entirely.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Trump would have never let that airbase go. That was idiotic. And it would have taken place in a very manner. Biden pushed up the timeline and sacrificed our people for politics.

Look Biden was a joke but your ignorant defense of Trump is

 

[rikberry31]

Look Biden was a joke but your ignorant defense of Trump is

First I don't think he needs defended. I don't put too much on people's words, as far as politicians go, I judge results. Unless one resorts to lies, there is no argument about the results the man has delivered.

 

[adam.vol]

Wow.

Yeah. Us Millennials weren’t alive and it wasn’t in the textbooks. I only ever heard about it from one history teacher, not a part of the lesson plan.

What did you teach your kids and grandkids?

 

[BeardedVol]

But has anyone asked Jared and Steve what their assessment of the situation is currently?

US Intel Warns Iran Regime ‘Not in Danger’ of Collapse Even After Top Leaders Wiped Out in Strikes

Intel reports give “consistent analysis that the regime is not in danger” of collapse and “retains control of the Iranian public,” sources said.

www.mediaite.com

 

[n_huffhines]

Biden’s $6 Billion Ransom Payment to Iran Fuels Their Terror Machine | The Heritage Foundation Biden’s $6 Billion Ransom Payment to Iran Fuels Their Terror Machine

You know it's a bald-faced lie to call it ransom when it wasn't our $, right? It was their $, we just unfroze the funds.

It wasn't an end-around congress because this action didn't apply to the INARA.

Also, they are trying to prove that this action encouraged more hostage taking when that's always what Iran has done, since the 70s.

Look at that. Can't believe the Heritage Foundation would mislead anybody about Iran. What is the world coming to?

 

[adam.vol]

When do you think the Iranian Revolution will begin? As of right now, there are no immediate signs of that happening after the death of the Ayatollah.

We have to pay the mercenaries to go out and start chanting first. It’s still too risky for what we’re currently paying. That’s why the US Aid cuts didn’t last.

 

[adam.vol]

They can't help it. Trans people don't think about being trans as much as your average MAGA thinks about trans people.

This isn’t logical. Only someone who is mentally ill could rationalize that someone else is thinking about you more than yourself.

 

[appvol]

 

[Smokey123]

First I don't think he needs defended. I don't put too much on people's words, as far as politicians go, I judge results. Unless one resorts to lies, there is no argument about the results the man has delivered.

What results have been the best in this term?