Iran

[OHvol40]

Interesting as it existed since at least the Clinton admin. You think the Clinton's schemed that up so Bush could go to war?

Who used it to go to war bud?

 

[luthervol]

We’re seeing a real right wing emerging for th first time since Bill Buckley effectively defeated it in the 1950’s. What took over was “conservatism” which was utterly annihilated over the last 50+ years. They lost every major institution- media, the administrative state, education and entertainment. Conservatives are the right flank of the progressive left and the youth are rebelling against it.

lol....It was defeated in the 40's. It will be defeated now.
The dinosaurs ain't returning - Jurassic Park is fiction.

 

[sonofUT62]

Pinning it on Vance

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Well Vance is a renowned foreign policy expert. He took pictures in the Marines and married a woman of color. He would obviously be the go to guy.

 

[NashVol11]

More detail on our initial losses

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/02/politics/six-soldiers-killed-in-iranian-strike-kuwait

 

[KB5252]

Who used it to go to war bud?

So you admit it wasn't "created" to go to war, it was the justification. You can't create something that already existed.

Context and words matter. Iraq was considered a threat, even by Democrats at the time until it became a political football.

details regarding the on-the-record mentions of Iraqi WMD include:

• 1984: Wikipedia and NPR confirm Iraq was employing chemical weapons, with the CIA providing intelligence support to Iraq at the time.
• 1988: International confirmation of Iraq using chemical weapons against its own Kurdish population in Halabja.
• 1991: Following the Gulf War, the UN Security Council officially documented Iraq's WMD programs via Resolution 687, established after inspectors found massive chemical and biological weapon capabilities.

 

[zeppelin128]

Damn I wish the admin and their surrogates would stop gaslighting us all on what this was about. Right now Mike Johnson is stating again that the goal was never regime change. First was short and medium range missiles and their production capability. Second was their navy. Yet the very first weapons to strike took out 49 some odd regime leaders. I guess they had short and mid range missiles on them while they were in their workshop building more? Damn just be honest about it we all see it

Even Matt Walsh of all people slithered out from under his rock and is calling the admin out on the shifting narrative. It's wild.

 

[VAVol85]

Pinning it on Vance

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Would appreciate your sharing the source. I would like to read more details.

 

[EasternVol]

It’s happening

The Lebanese government sends a message to Israel:

“Hezbollah is its own master, do whatever you want to it but please do not harm our infrastructure.”

This is HISTORIC.

Lebanon has never been direct or clearly aligned with the west - ever.

Sure they were. We had troops there in the 50’s to prop up their pro western government.

 

[KB5252]

I have a feeling there won't be some US bases in the ME after this.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Even Matt Walsh of all people slithered out from under his rock and is calling the admin out on the shifting narrative. It's wild.

I can’t keep up.
What’s the current reason for this attack?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Pinning it on Vance

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Where is that quote from.
It doesn’t surprise me at all. Just want to read more on it

 

[headhunter15]

 

[sonofUT62]

I have a feeling there won't be some US bases in the ME after this.

The silver lining in this cloud of doo doo. Before anyone says anything, I’m not desirous of the base closures due to loss of life. Just on general principle.

 

[ButchPlz]

Have you seen how apparently there are like 44 expensive missiles being shot to intercept every one cheap-ass, low-tech Iranian missile?

 

[EasternVol]

What are the totals when you add AIPAC and other groups that spend for Israel and Arab countries?

 

[Smokey123]

I can’t keep up.
What’s the current reason for this attack?

nobody in the admin has gave a definitive answer but this is the closest we’ve got so far. The pentagon also said there was nothing to suggest Iran was gonna attack first

 

[OHvol40]

So you admit it wasn't "created" to go to war, it was the justification. You can't create something that already existed.

Context and words matter. Iraq was considered a threat, even by Democrats at the time until it became a political football.

details regarding the on-the-record mentions of Iraqi WMD include:

• 1984: Wikipedia and NPR confirm Iraq was employing chemical weapons, with the CIA providing intelligence support to Iraq at the time.
• 1988: International confirmation of Iraq using chemical weapons against its own Kurdish population in Halabja.
• 1991: Following the Gulf War, the UN Security Council officially documented Iraq's WMD programs via Resolution 687, established after inspectors found massive chemical and biological weapon capabilities.

Just because it wasn’t Bush’s original stupid idea, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a stupid idea, not to mention he was the one stupid enough to perpetrate the lie to invade a foreign country. It gave us trillions in debt and the Patriot Act. Hows that working out?

But hey, yay oil

 

[Orangeslice13]

nobody in the admin has gave a definitive answer but this is the closest we’ve got so far. The pentagon also said there was nothing to suggest Iran was gonna attack first

So this is like sucker punching someone in high school because you heard they were going to look for you after class?

 

[zeppelin128]

I can’t keep up.
What’s the current reason for this attack?

Rubio is the only person in the admin that has offered a consistent narrative. They should have let him do all the PR stuff instead of drunk frat boy yelling at reporters this morning.

Rubio tonight:

 

[Delmar]

This makes it even more enraging. By that rationale a nation of 300 million had to bomb a nation of 90 million because they were extorted by a nation of 10 million? Let’s make that make sense.

Don’t think it was “extortion”. If we believe it, it was to mitigate the Iranian response once Israel decided to attack. Self preservation because we felt Iran would hit both Israeli and US targets once Israel hit the leaders. We took out as much as we could up front and are still doing it. Saw something just now that said we had hit 1200 sites and expect to hit twice that many by tomorrow which is supposed to take out most of Iran’s missile capability. I guess we’ll find out if that’s successful.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I can’t keep up.
What’s the current reason for this attack?

Have they said the real reason yet?

 

[sonofUT62]

Don’t think it was “extortion”. If we believe it, it was to mitigate the Iranian response once Israel decided to attack. Self preservation because we felt Iran would hit both Israeli and US targets once Israel hit the leaders. We took out as much as we could up front and are still doing it. Saw something just now that said we had hit 1200 sites and expect to hit twice that many by tomorrow which is supposed to take out most of Iran’s missile capability. I guess we’ll find out if that’s successful.

There is no such thing as “successful “. Again…by this rationale, we are sacrificing American lives because of the threat of military action via equipment that we manufacture. If this is even remotely true, then it’s the ultimate argument to cut off every penny to Tel Aviv.

 

[KB5252]

Just because it wasn’t Bush’s original stupid idea, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a stupid idea, not to mention he was the one stupid enough to perpetrate the lie to invade a foreign country. It gave us trillions in debt and the Patriot Act. Hows that working out?

But hey, yay oil

I'm not advocating for that war. What I'm saying is there was no lie. The program existed, it was greatly exaggerated by Saddaam, Democrats, Republicans and international allies all believed the bluff. All were wrong.

 

[Smokey123]

So this is like sucker punching someone in high school because you heard they were going to look for you after class?

That’s how some are viewing it, others as Israel dragging us into it

 

[volinbham]

Rubio is the only person in the admin that has offered a consistent narrative. They should have let him do all the PR stuff instead of drunk frat boy yelling at reporters this morning.

Rubio tonight:
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He's definitely the most adept at fielding questions and giving coherent answers.