Iran

[KB5252]

Because of a president who opposed the use of American force, not because of it

Nonsense, it was a great example of regime change

 

[MontyPython]

You keep asking that and it’s still not a thing. You can always attack the entrance

How many entrances can you have to an underground facility? Is Iran capable of camouflaging these entrances? How many bunker busters do we have that are capable of taking out these entrances?

 

[MontyPython]

Taking Russian pawns off the table is a valid use of force

Pfft. Iran is no Russian pawn.

 

[Vol8188]

Or Afghanistan, or Libya, or Syria.......... Do we really need to make any more generational enemies in the region?

You see the fall of Syria as being due to US involvement? If anything I see it Russians inability to defend their asset. We had very limited involvement in direct attacks against the Syrian regime.

 

[Vol8188]

Nonsense, it was a great example of regime change

Yes, it was for several decades. Then we had a president who opposed such policies and Iran fell.

 

[Vol8188]

How many entrances can you have to an underground facility?

Probably less than we have bombs.

Is Iran capable of camouflaging these entrances?

Do satellites and intel exist?

How many bunker busters do we have that are capable of taking out these entrances?

If it’s the entrance, it doesn’t have to be a bunker buster

 

[LSU-SIU]

Yes, it was for several decades. Then we had a president who opposed such policies and Iran fell.

Iran fell from what? How much time have you spent in the middle east, my take is -- although my experience around Iran is limited is they are middle of the road.

 

[sonofUT62]

Hate to tell you but any attack on Israel won’t be so they can annex Iran. This isn’t because of Zionism as bad as some of you want to make it into that

I never said that they were trying to annex Iran. I never thought they were trying to annex Iraq when they helped us with WMDs. Their MO is to use us to attack their enemies.

 

[Vol8188]

I never said that they were trying to annex Iran. I never thought they were trying to annex Iraq when they helped us with WMDs. Their MO is to use us to attack their enemies.

No it’s not. This nonsense keeps getting thrown around on the internet and it’s inaccurate

 

[Carl Pickens]

Riddle me this saber rattlers...

What happens when Iran builds its nuclear facilities so deep that we can't reach them with our bunker busters? You ready to send your children and grandchildren to die in Iran? Or maybe we just nuke 'em? That'll learn 'em!

'Murica First!!! No new endless wars!!!

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Would you rather they develop nukes and then use their proxies to put one in the middle of NYC?

 

[Smokey123]

Would you rather they develop nukes and then use their proxies to put one in the middle of NYC?

 

[sonofUT62]

No it’s not. This nonsense keeps getting thrown around on the internet and it’s inaccurate

It’s not nonsense. If I need to start listing examples I would be glad to. I’m not stating they’re the only ones. The Qataris do the same thing. We should just be willing to have an honest conversation about what they are.

 

[Vol8188]

It’s not nonsense. If I need to start listing examples I would be glad to. I’m not stating they’re the only ones. The Qataris do the same thing. We should just be willing to have an honest conversation about what they are.

Let’s hear your examples

 

[MAD]

 

[KB5252]

You see the fall of Syria as being due to US involvement? If anything I see it Russians inability to defend their asset. We had very limited involvement in direct attacks against the Syrian regime.

The fall of Syria was the the US and Russia using it as a pissing match to be quite honest.

 

[sonofUT62]

Let’s hear your examples

Of instances where Israel has used use to do their dirty work?

 

[Vol8188]

The fall of Syria was the the US and Russia using it as a pissing match to be quite honest.

The war in Syria started before US involvement

 

[Vol8188]

Of instances where Israel has used use to do their dirty work?

Please

 

[KB5252]

How many entrances can you have to an underground facility? Is Iran capable of camouflaging these entrances? How many bunker busters do we have that are capable of taking out these entrances?

The terrain and satellite imagery/ new tech make concealing entrances like these virtually impossible.

There is a finite amount of these bunker busters though, that is a valid point.

 

[KB5252]

The war in Syria started before US involvement

Correct, it was ruined once we entered into the conflict and turned it onto a stalemate. There are some very good documentaries, think trench warfare only fought building to building across streets and room to room..

And what has it resulted in?

 

[KB5252]

Pfft. Iran is no Russian pawn.

They are to some extent, by necessity.

 

[MontyPython]

Would you rather they develop nukes and then use their proxies to put one in the middle of NYC?

North Korea publicly ratified plans for “merciless” nuclear strikes against the U.S. and threatened us with propaganda videos simulating attacks on U.S. cities. They despise our country and have nukes plus ICBMs capable of reaching us. Yet, they haven't used one on us.

Why? (MAD). How is MAD any different with N. Korea than it would be with Iran? (if they attack us, we will retaliate)

 

[MontyPython]

Probably less than we have bombs.


Do satellites and intel exist?



If it’s the entrance, it doesn’t have to be a bunker buster

OK. So going along with your premise that we can delay Iran's nuke program by just bombing the entrances to their facilities, given Trump is already advocating attacking them only 8 months after he claimed we "obliterated" their nuclear capability, does this mean we are now engaged in yet another "neverending war"? Will we need to bomb Iran yet again now and again in another 8 months?

Is this all part of Donald Trump's strategic 5D chess game to earn himself a Nobel Peace Prize?

 

[CagleMtnVol]

You keep asking that and it’s still not a thing. You can always attack the entrance

They have to have ventilation shafts as well.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

North Korea publicly ratified plans for “merciless” nuclear strikes against the U.S. and threatened us with propaganda videos simulating attacks on U.S. cities. They despise our country and have nukes plus ICBMs capable of reaching us. Yet, they haven't used one on us.

Why? (MAD). How is MAD any different with N. Korea than it would be with Iran? (if they attack us, we will retaliate)

Iran is ruled by religious wackos. They don't care if they are destroyed. You know the whole 30 virgins and all that. They don't care how many years it takes as long as the end goal is achieved.

It's why when you look at what is happening in Europe with Islamists taking over. Muhammad being the number 1 boys name for the 2nd year in a row in the UK. They don't see time the way normal people do. It's took 500 years but they now have a foothold in Europe. It may take 500 more but eventually they will accomplish it unless it's stopped.