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marcusluvsvols said:
Delusional believing that theres such a thing as " trans people". No, there are mentally ill crossdressers. Nobody on Earth is transitioning from 1 sex to the other. Males born with XY chromosomes will die with XY chromosomes as males, regardless of Leftist delusions or how they look. Females are born with XX chromosomes and will die as females with XX chromosomes regardless of any Leftist delusions, changes to their appearance, genital mutilation etc. In 500years when archeologists dig up their bones...they will correctly assign either Male or Female sex to these people. The same sex which is on their birth certificates.

There are no "trans" people in 2026 anymore than there were in 1726. There aren't 47 fictional "genders" either.

This is simple Biology.
There are male humans.
There are female humans.
There is a very small % of humans with birth defects called Hermaphrodites that have organs of 1sex usually and vestigial organs of the opposite sex also. A small fraction of 1% of people have this affliction, apparently Michelle/Brian Obama is one of them. These people are very rare and statistically insignificant though.

You and I being honest and not denying basic biology in order to subscribe to the Leftist delusional fad of the moment is the sane and logical stance. Of course these Lefties hate it. Facts dont care about feelings though. The facts are the facts.
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What thread is this
 
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Smokey123 said:
What thread is this
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The one I posted in. The person with whom I was speaking had no trouble finding it. CP has clearly already read and "liked" it. If you were a VN mod and felt like moving it, you could do that. Fine with me. Pretty sure you aren't a mod though nor the arbiter of which posts belong where etc.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Those bases in the EU aren't just there for the benefit of the EU, that's what everyone has been trying to tell you all since you started crying about NATO countries not paying enough for defense.

If you want to project force all the way around the world, then you have to have a logistics system capable of supplying your military, and those bases, and ports that we have access to are integral to being able to do so.

Cruise missiles, not ballistic, I mispoke, and we do it all the time. Rota is the largest NATO munitions and fuel depot in Europe.

Even if you stop "bombing for oil" then you still have to have forward logistics for a viable deterrent for countries like Russia or China, unless it's your plan to go full isolationist and pull back all USN forces to operating in or near US territorial waters.
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there is a difference in non-interventionalism and isolationsim. I am for non-interventionalism. The border I am more worried about with China and Russia is on the opposite side of the planet from Europe. If some European country wants us in their territory I am open to working out that deal.

Trying to one-size-fits-none all of Europe into one agreement doesn't make a lot of sense imo.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
This is simple Biology.
There are male humans.
There are female humans.
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"Trans" isn't about biology, numbnuts. Sex is biology. Gender is a construct. Nobody is saying they changed their biology. They're saying they changed their gender. Understand the difference. It's not that complicated. I know I've explained this to you before. You can still be a bigot if you want, but at least make informed arguments. You're arguing straw men.
 
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n_huffhines said:
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why? none of them are president, pretty sure some aren't even politicans. what are they supposed to do?

finally pass a bill that will actually limit the president's power? I wish, but never going to happen, they know that is a tool they get to use as well.
 
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LouderVol said:
why? none of them are president, pretty sure some aren't even politicans. what are they supposed to do?

finally pass a bill that will actually limit the president's power? I wish, but never going to happen, they know that is a tool they get to use as well.
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Do nothing is certainly an option if you don't care. Is merely speaking out against it off the table for some reason?
 
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n_huffhines said:
"Trans" isn't about biology, numbnuts. Sex is biology. Gender is a construct. Nobody is saying they changed their biology. They're saying they changed their gender. Understand the difference. It's not that complicated. I know I've explained this to you before. You can still be a bigot if you want, but at least make informed arguments. You're arguing straw men.
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You can't change your gender either.

Just because you cut off the branches doesn't mean it's still not a tree.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Do nothing is certainly an option if you don't care. Is merely speaking out against it off the table for some reason?
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where does anyone say its off the table?

you, the post you copied, made the only two choices speak out or you are funded by Jews and want war with Iran.

there are clearly plenty of other reasons than them being banned or pro-war. the silence is violence argument is nonsense. I bet that poster didn't speak out against dog fighting in the last week, I guess he hates dogs and wants them to die.

fwiw I am always curious about how much homework those type of people put into their posts in the first place. did they actually check the recent activity of those 7 people?
 
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LouderVol said:
where does anyone say its off the table?

you, the post you copied, made the only two choices speak out or you are funded by Jews and want war with Iran.

there are clearly plenty of other reasons than them being banned or pro-war. the silence is violence argument is nonsense. I bet that poster didn't speak out against dog fighting in the last week, I guess he hates dogs and wants them to die.

fwiw I am always curious about how much homework those type of people put into their posts in the first place. did they actually check the recent activity of those 7 people?
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I'm making fun of your question, what are they supposed to do?

I'm asking for them to just oppose it, in some way.

The post is specifically picking on those politicians for having a history of selling out to Israel's interest. It's not a conclusion he made based off their current silence.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm making fun of your question, what are they supposed to do?

I'm asking for them to just oppose it, in some way.

The post is specifically picking on those politicians for having a history of selling out to Israel's interest. It's not a conclusion he made based off their current silence.
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You make statements with a false premise and criticize anyone that doesn’t have your views. Stop being bigoted bully.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm making fun of your question, what are they supposed to do?

I'm asking for them to just oppose it, in some way.

The post is specifically picking on those politicians for having a history of selling out to Israel's interest. It's not a conclusion he made based off their current silence.
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how was that making fun of my question?

what if they oppose it quietly behind closed doors or in private? done. they are doing what you claim to want.

not everyone should be expected to virtue signal constantly. especially those who aren't even politicians now like Pete Buttigieg. I seriously doubt those are the only ones in Israel's pocket, seems like there should be something specific about them.
 
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LouderVol said:
how was that making fun of my question?

what if they oppose it quietly behind closed doors or in private? done. they are doing what you claim to want.

not everyone should be expected to virtue signal constantly. especially those who aren't even politicians now like Pete Buttigieg. I seriously doubt those are the only ones in Israel's pocket, seems like there should be something specific about them.
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Who said they are the only ones? Dude, wtf.

Find me one time any of them went against Israel? I'm not asking them to virtue signal. I'm asking them to be the opposition to war that traditional liberalism expects them to be. You said what are they supposed to do? ******* anything. Be the opposition, "virtue signaling," or as I like to call it, speaking on issues, is just the least of it.

I don't care what is in their hearts. They are Democratic leadership always acting in the interests of Israel. This is why they are being called out, LOL.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Who said they are the only ones? Dude, wtf.

Find me one time any of them went against Israel? I'm not asking them to virtue signal. I'm asking them to be the opposition to war that traditional liberalism expects them to be. You said what are they supposed to do? ******* anything. Be the opposition, "virtue signaling," or as I like to call it, speaking on issues, is just the least of it.

I don't care what is in their hearts. They are Democratic leadership always acting in the interests of Israel. This is why they are being called out, LOL.
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why is the onus on me to disprove a claim you/the guy you quoted made?

asking either party to be the opposition is funny. they are the same. idk maybe you are just now figuring that out and are pissed off by it, but its old hat for a lot of us.
 
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Prominent National Democrats: Supportive of Israel.

Huff: They are agents of Israel.

The rest of the population: Maybe Huff needs to recognize that his Anti-Israel views are extreme, even to the left, and that he is the one with the problem world view.

Huff: Can't be true. In a world where the left and the right can't agree on anything else, agreement on Israel shows how the Jews are running the world. Why I am the only one who can see this?

Seriously Huff. Take a breath. If everyone disagrees with you, you may want to take a long minute and re-evaluate your position.
 
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EasternVol said:
They could speak.
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True. They could. But assuming that they are Israeli stooges just because they aren't speaking out against potential conflict in Iran is silly.

One of the posts that has really resonated with me in this thread is this one:

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My very liberal dad is willing to change the airport in Tehran to Lindsay Graham International for the US to topple this regime. If that tells you guys anything about what the average Iranian wants.
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I doubt the "average Iranian" as referenced in PV's post is wanting regime change because they are looking out for Israel's interests.

It feels weird to be arguing for the Dems to be taking a stance because they believe it is actually the right thing to do, but I find myself, oddly enough, making the argument to Huff that this might be what is actually happening here.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
True. They could. But assuming that they are Israeli stooges just because they aren't speaking out against potential conflict in Iran is silly.

One of the posts that has really resonated with me in this thread is this one:



I doubt the "average Iranian" as referenced in PV's post is wanting regime change because they are looking out for Israel's interests.

It feels weird to be arguing for the Dems to be taking a stance because they believe it is actually the right thing to do, but I find myself, oddly enough, making the argument to Huff that this might be what is actually happening here.
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There's no valid reason for us to attack Iran at this point, or if there is it's well hidden. If there's no valid reason to attack then it's not in our or anyone except Iran's regional enemies interests for us to attack. It may well open a Pandora's box. I'd expect some of our upstanding public servants to point that out.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Prominent National Democrats: Supportive of Israel.

Huff: They are agents of Israel.

The rest of the population: Maybe Huff needs to recognize that his Anti-Israel views are extreme, even to the left, and that he is the one with the problem world view.

Huff: Can't be true. In a world where the left and the right can't agree on anything else, agreement on Israel shows how the Jews are running the world. Why I am the only one who can see this?

Seriously Huff. Take a breath. If everyone disagrees with you, you may want to take a long minute and re-evaluate your position.
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Post of the day!
 
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EasternVol said:
There's no valid reason for us to attack Iran at this point, or if there is it's well hidden. If there's no valid reason to attack then it's not in our or anyone except Iran's regional enemies interests for us to attack. It may well open a Pandora's box. I'd expect some of our upstanding public servants to point that out.
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Have you not seen the hundreds of thousands of Iranians and supporters marching in major American cities?
 
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