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volfanhill said:
Based on our track record in my lifetime I'd say we will make things much worse for everyone should we proceed with assisting with regime change
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Horrifying thought?

What if all of those regime changes, disastrous as many of them have been, were actually the best possible outcome?

Frightening.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Horrifying thought?

What if all of those regime changes, disastrous as many of them have been, were actually the best possible outcome?

Frightening.
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What's frightening is you seem to believe that many, or just some, were a positive outcome for us let alone the countries we brought Apple Pie and Bald Eagles too. That's pretty frightening
 
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volfanhill said:
What's frightening is you seem to believe that many, or just some, were a positive outcome for us let alone the countries we brought Apple Pie and Bald Eagles too. That's pretty frightening
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You reading minds? Where did you get that I thought many were positive outcomes?

Either you misread my post, or you just want to fight.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
You reading minds? Where did you get that I thought many were positive outcomes?

Either you misread my post, or you just want to fight.
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I said many or just some

Fight? Weird

I think it's hard to argue that any were best possible outcomes. If we kept our nose out the status quo was better for us and often for the oppressed then where it ended up
 
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volfanhill said:
I said many or just some

Fight? Weird

I think it's hard to argue that any were best possible outcomes bc if we kept our nose out the status quo was better for us and often for the oppressed
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Right. Kind of my point.

As bad as things have turned out, can you imagine how bad they would be if the actual result was the best possible outcome?

Though in retrospect, getting rid of Noriega in Panama seems pretty positive, and kicking the Ruskies out of Grenada under the Queen’s nose when the Iron Lady sat on the sidelines was ok, too, but that’s about all I think of.
I suppose with those two, that is “some.”
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Right. Kind of my point.

As bad as things have turned out, can you imagine how bad they would be if the actual result was the best possible outcome?

Though in retrospect, getting rid of Noriega in Panama seems pretty positive, and kicking the Ruskies out of Grenada under the Queen’s nose when the Iron Lady sat on the sidelines was ok, too, but that’s about all I think of.
I suppose with those two, that is “some.”
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I was but a boy during those two particular interventionist acts. And I'd agree they appear successful. So I will adjust my argument and say in the last 35 years
 
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volfanhill said:
I was but a boy during those two particular interventionist acts. And I'd agree they appear successful. So I will adjust my argument and say in the last 35 years
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Dammit, now you are calling me old!

Told you that you were looking for a fight!

If I could get out of my recliner, I’d kick your arse, young man.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Right. Kind of my point.

As bad as things have turned out, can you imagine how bad they would be if the actual result was the best possible outcome?

Though in retrospect, getting rid of Noriega in Panama seems pretty positive, and kicking the Ruskies out of Grenada under the Queen’s nose when the Iron Lady sat on the sidelines was ok, too, but that’s about all I think of.
I suppose with those two, that is “some.”
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Wasn't Noreiga our boy before he wasn’t? I think we just adjusted a problem we had created.
Some consider Indonesia 1965 a win but it cost maybe a million lives and swapped one authoritarian for another. We got our hands on a whole lot of resources until PRC started moving in early this century and it snuffed the world's third largest Communist party.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
You can't change your gender either.

Just because you cut off the branches doesn't mean it's still not a tree.
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Exactly. There are exactly 2 genders. Male and female. Everything else is made up BS. When expecting parents have a "gender reveal party" guess what the options are? You guessed it. Boy or Girl. That is reality.

They can call themselves whatever the Hell they want to. I dont have to play along with delusions of the mentally ill. Period. They need help...not encouragement, acceptance, enabling behaviors and attitudes. Cross dressing homosexuals are not "trans" anything regardless of how many hormones they take or which sexual mutilations of their genitals they have.

This BS Liberal "construct" with 47 fictional genders is nonsense. Not believing their nonsense does not make normal people bigots. Guess what? We dont give a damn who or what they are attracted to, or what fictional thing they call themselves. Nobody wants to hear about their sex life (in many cases its surely the lack thereof...better than 90% of these people look ridiculous and nobody wants any part of that)

History is not going to be kind to this insanity made so popular by Obama but much moreso the Biden admin. The suicide rates for these people are 3x that of normal folks according to some peer reviewed and accepted studies. "Trans regret" is growing like wildfire. These kids especially that are now sterile for life and/or missing body parts due to surgeries are falling apart mentally. The Leftists glorified this garbage like they always do...a recent study in the New England Journal of Medicine I believe was also referenced in the NY Times where a very prominent and respected doctor broke ranks from the Left and went on record saying that these HS in CA for example where the student body is over 10% "trans" are further proof that this phenomenon is caused by peer pressure, kids wanting to "fit in" and even parents wanting their kids to do so because it was trendy and popular to have a "trans" child. The events were similar to group hysteria at times, when many kids decided to try to be something they are not.

History will not look back on this delusional child abuse kindly IMO. The suicides and mass shootings by over medicated and hormone addled "trans" people continue to add up. One after another they lose the battles with their mental illnesses, often shooting up innocent civilians in the process. Numb nuts up there calling me names has completely lost his mind in the last couple years. TDS obsessed , supports illegal immigrants over law abiding citizens, and now is brainwashed and caught up in the same "trans" and "pronouns" nonsense as well. He has lost touch with reality. Arguing with him about semantics and delusions he suffers from is futile and a waste of time.
 
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