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InVOLuntary said:
I posed a question about how many deaths were allowed before anyone thought it was justified. McDad said there were no amount of deaths that were high enough to justify it. You said the same. You are on record saying that you were OK with the Iranian government slaughtering millions with no response. That's fine. I asked McDad if us entering WWII against Germany was justified. Someone chimed in that Germany had declared war. I said that Iran had been at war with us for decades. I said that Germany really hadn't done anything to the US. You responded that they had attacked our merchant ships and one military vessel. I asked you what both were doing (supporting Germany's enemies in both cases). I said that Iran had attacked US ships. You said what does that have to do with the price if tea in China.

You seriously don't see your inconsistencies?

Germany attacks our ships when we are supporting their enemies. War ok.

Iran attacks our ships, war not ok.

Said from the very beginning that I'm generally against war with Iran. I am 100% against boots on the ground. I'm open to "punishing" the government leaders if they genocide their population. From afar.
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if it were up to me we would have stayed out of Europe in WW2. as I stated the death by the Nazis were not justification for us to join the war. so staying out of Iran is consistent.

pointing to the Reuban James doesn't mean I that I thought we should have been involved. I was just pointing out that Germany had done more than JUST declare war on us.
 
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LouderVol said:
if it were up to me we would have stayed out of Europe in WW2. as I stated the death by the Nazis were not justification for us to join the war. so staying out of Iran is consistent.

pointing to the Reuban James doesn't mean I that I thought we should have been involved. I was just pointing out that Germany had done more than JUST declare war on us.
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And that's the point I was trying to make. It's difficult to justify us entering the war against Germany if you are against saving mass slaughtered Iranians.

And we were acting as if we were at war with them.. Everything they did was in response to us supporting their enemies.
 
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From Iranian Elica Le Bon
To reduce the uprisings in Iran to an Israeli/U.S. operation undermines the agency of the Iranian people. More than that, it’s erasure.

It erases Iranians as human beings.

As if Iranians wouldn’t themselves oppose a tyrannical, mass murdering regime that murdered their children, siblings, and parents unless the higher puppet masters convinced them to fight for regime change.

As if they're idle savages waiting for the devil's hand to stir them.

As if they don't even exist as people—no aspirations, feelings, dreams, pain, trauma, history, culture—until Israel and the U.S. breathes life into their otherwise dormant avatars.

They make Gods of their western enemy and reduce Iranians to inept barbarians. Rising against gracious terrorists only because they’re stupid enough to be fooled by Israeli propaganda.

The paradox is that for all their “anti-racist”
rhetoric, the leftist’s gross dehumanization of Iranians—and perception of some of the most brilliant and progressive people in the world as idiotic, oppressed savages—proves there is nobody more racist than leftists.
🤡🤥💩
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Latin immigrants, Iranian immigrants...

Trump is expanding his support daily.
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Hopefully Iranians and Venezuelans start to go home and rebuild their nations (if they want to). If both nations are strong and friendly to the USA, it will be a HUGE win. Both nations have great potential to do great things.

A peaceful and pro-Western Iran would change the face of the Middle East.
 
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MAD said:
Israel,Jews,Mossad,Netanyahu are behind the revolt in Iran 🤡

They will never accept that the people of Iran have had enough.
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They’ll never accept the fact they can’t false flag or bully a regime change in Iran…

Feigning sympathy for Muslims is as desperate as it looks..
 
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MAD said:
Israel,Jews,Mossad,Netanyahu are behind the revolt in Iran 🤡

They will never accept that the people of Iran have had enough.
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Are you denying this has been a stated goal of Israel/Netanyahu for years? Do you find it impossible that they're involved?
 
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MAD said:
Israel,Jews,Mossad,Netanyahu are behind the revolt in Iran 🤡

They will never accept that the people of Iran have had enough.
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Let them fight, if you want to go fight then go fight.

"they" have nothing to do with this - obviously you want people to take a side

If Israel wants to fight, let them do it or not do it and let them fund it. Its not that complex.
 
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Pacer92 said:
There’s no lie. Israel and their assets are to blame…with them even admitting it.

Play that antisemetic card elsewhere…
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Which newspapers are bragging about it?

I read thru articles from Times of Israel, The Jerusalem Post, and Haaretz. nothing about them agitating this. Willing to bet someone found the equivalent of the Daily Beast quoting anonymous sources and think that it reflects reality.

I did see claims about how the missile/plane strikes in 2025 weakened the regime/the fear of the regime. but not seeing anything with claims of Mossad being behind this uprising.

just curious, in your world, were any of the previous Iranian protests against the regime "organic"?
 
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utvolpj said:
Are you denying this has been a stated goal of Israel/Netanyahu for years? Do you find it impossible that they're involved?
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I am sure the regime being murderous and repressive to their own population is a FAR FAR FAR bigger priority on the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Iranians protesting than some Mossad agents poking them with a stick egging them to do something.

its like Hilary blaming her lost election on Russian facebook adds. in the world of absolutes I am sure Mossad has a presence, but its a mighty big, illogical, leap to jump to them being the main cause or catalyst for any of this.
 
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🤡🤥💩I have proof that there are “Mossad agents” dressing up as Iranian Revolutionary Guards killing thousands of their own “Mossad agents” dressing up as Iranian’s protesting?
 
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LouderVol said:
I am sure the regime being murderous and repressive to their own population is a FAR FAR FAR bigger priority on the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Iranians protesting than some Mossad agents poking them with a stick egging them to do something.

its like Hilary blaming her lost election on Russian facebook adds. in the world of absolutes I am sure Mossad has a presence, but its a mighty big, illogical, leap to jump to them being the main cause or catalyst for any of this.
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Except they've been at it for many years. Of compare it less to Hilary and more to Ukraine 2014
 
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LouderVol said:
Which newspapers are bragging about it?

I read thru articles from Times of Israel, The Jerusalem Post, and Haaretz. nothing about them agitating this. Willing to bet someone found the equivalent of the Daily Beast quoting anonymous sources and think that it reflects reality.

I did see claims about how the missile/plane strikes in 2025 weakened the regime/the fear of the regime. but not seeing anything with claims of Mossad being behind this uprising.

just curious, in your world, were any of the previous Iranian protests against the regime "organic"?
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Numbers of Mossad assets/agents have been killed/captured by the Iranian regime…that is no secret. Jmo, but I believe that’s why Trump about faced on bombing. The sheer number of operatives facing execution…

I’m sure there’s been some legit protests, like in every country. They’ve been under western sanctions for decades…
 
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Pacer92 said:
Numbers of Mossad assets/agents have been killed/captured by the Iranian regime…that is no secret. Jmo, but I believe that’s why Trump about faced on bombing. The sheer number of operatives facing execution…

I’m sure there’s been some legit protests, like in every country. They’ve been under western sanctions for decades…
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These people make no sense.

Islamic Republic imports 5,000+ terrorist mercenaries to slaughter Iranians, that’s totally fine.
Iranian protesters that are being slaughtered asking for help from the west, BAD.
 
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