Iran

[EasternVol]

Obvious speculation on my part, but Germany, England, France, ect. In the next 5 to 10 years I'd imagine. Europe is a powder keg right now, and it's not just the migrants....though they are a major part.

From what i know of France, which is quite a bit over the past 30 years or so, it's not happening there. The situation has actually improved since 2000. French racism and discrimination's still there but they're lessened, and children and grandchildren of immigrants are more integrated into society. My German friends say the same about Germany. I can't speak on the UK since it's been years since I worked with the Brits.

 

[allstar34]

May you thirst to death

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Translation, I can't link a TV program. Translation, you really don't care about the truth, you only care about getting Trump.


Under no circumstances do you give money to terrorist. Are you for funding terrorism?


Seriously? We had boots on the ground in Vietnam. Also, Vietnam is a peaceful trading partner with us and from what I understand a beautiful place to visit.


You don't think we'll be monitoring that from afar? If you really belive that this won't set them back decades, I really don't know what to tell you.


Are you trying to make the argument that the Houthis, Hamas, and Hezbola are not extensions of the IRGC?

Also, Bin Laden received support from Iran so that doesn't really help your argument there.

Bin Laden received support from a lot of people in the ME, including Trump's buddies in SA and Qatar

 

[EasternVol]

-Didn’t happen in Gaza, but Jews amiright
-you said nothing about the United States. But again nice pivot
-So you have absolutely nothing. To support your claims. Typical
-maybe you should try not following a Jew around bringing up Israel and the IDF to everything I say.

That would be amusing if it wasn't kind of sad.

 

[NashVol11]

Can it not be true that we obliterated their facility and they still have and have reconstructed some of it and there are other facilities? I think if you take that much offense at that claim I'm not sure you have the right to call anyone a moron.

Trump said monumental damage was done to "all nuclear sites in Iran"

Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Have Been Obliterated — and Suggestions Otherwise are Fake News

The world is far safer after President Donald J. Trump’s highly successful, decisive precision strikes against the Iranian regime’s key nuclear

www.whitehouse.gov

President Trump: “Monumental Damage was done to all Nuclear sites in Iran, as shown by satellite images. Obliteration is an accurate term! The white structure shown is deeply imbedded into the rock, with even its roof well below ground level, and completely shielded from flame. The biggest damage took place far below ground level. Bullseye!!!”

Israel Atomic Energy Commission: “The devastating US strike on Fordo destroyed the site’s critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable. We assess that the American strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities, combined with Israeli strikes on other elements of Iran’s military nuclear program, has set back Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons by many years. The achievement can continue indefinitely if Iran does not get access to nuclear material.”

IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir: “I can say here that the assessment is that we significantly damaged the nuclear program, and I can also say that we set it back by years, I repeat, years.”

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth: “Based on everything we have seen — and I’ve seen it all — our bombing campaign obliterated Iran’s ability to create nuclear weapons. Our massive bombs hit exactly the right spot at each target and worked perfectly. The impact of those bombs is buried under a mountain of rubble in Iran; so anyone who says the bombs were not devastating is just trying to undermine the President and the successful mission.”

 

[EasternVol]

May you thirst to death

Hearts and minds amirite? That's very stupid in view of our possible aim of regime change.

 

[allstar34]

Hearts and minds amirite? That's very stupid in view of our possible aim of regime change.

That’s coming from the mouth of a terrorist. Iran could have easily false flag attacked his own facility to give an excuse for their suicide drones to hit our civilian locations.

 

[MontyPython]

Translation, I can't link a TV program. Translation, you really don't care about the truth, you only care about getting Trump.

Then provide a link to a written article saying the same (you can't because it doesn't exist).

Under no circumstances do you give money to terrorist. Are you for funding terrorism?

Well Reagan and Obama disagreed. And it got the hostages released. That you would violate a signed treaty and international law speaks more to your values and ethics than to Reagan and Obama.

Seriously? We had boots on the ground in Vietnam. Also, Vietnam is a peaceful trading partner with us and from what I understand a beautiful place to visit.

54,000 dead Americans later.

You don't think we'll be monitoring that from afar? If you really belive that this won't set them back decades, I really don't know what to tell you.

Prove it. Trump said Iran's nuclear program and ability to rebuild was "obliterated" last June. Are we just re-obliterating it again for ***** and giggles (hint: presume everything Trump says is a lie)?

Also, Bin Laden received support from Iran so that doesn't really help your argument there.

Ultimately Bin Laden killed 3,000 plus Americans for about $2 and change. Removing all the so-called teeth from Iran hardly prevents them from terrorizing us or other countries, now does it?

 

[Carl Pickens]

So why block this?

How the hell should I know? I don’t care either.

 

[EasternVol]

That’s coming from the mouth of a terrorist. He could have easily false flag attacked his own facility to give an excuse for their suicide drones to hit our civilian locations.

Our civilian locations? Let's keep it to things that might possibly happen.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I’m

So why block this?

sure the release would make me safer.
You’ve supported all the unvetted illegals crossing the border so STFU

 

[Orangeslice13]

That would be amusing if it wasn't kind of sad.

At least you recognize you have a problem

 

[allstar34]

So why block this?

The internet’s answer:

The main reasons given were:
1. The administration wanted to review the information first
A White House spokesperson said they were ensuring intelligence released publicly was accurate and properly vetted before distribution.
This is the official explanation.

2. Possible political or strategic concerns
Some officials involved in the process suggested another reason:

• The report would have raised the official threat level inside the U.S.
• It might suggest that military actions against Iran were increasing domestic security risks.

One DHS official said that concern may have led the administration to pause it.

3. Inter-agency disagreement
Reports say

• DHS prepared the report
• The FBI objected to how it was handled
• The White House intervened after it was notified only hours before release.

So part of the issue may also have been procedural conflict between agencies



My thought:
They blocked it because they do not feel it’s time to create mass hysteria in America. They don’t believe that there is a threat of an imminent Mass Terrorist Attack on US soil. Possibly blocking the release of the bulletin to not inspire these attacks from radical individuals.

 

[rikberry31]

We are in phase 1 of a war. It's been a cakewalk... That doesn't mean the rest of it will, however.

I hate to crush your dreams but buddy it’s over except for the crying. Not one single American has been killed in combat and they shot their wad. But you hold out hope.

 

[NashVol11]

How the hell should I know? I don’t care either.

If you don't know and don't care what's going on then why are you commenting on it

 

[NashVol11]

The internet’s answer:

The main reasons given were:
1. The administration wanted to review the information first
A White House spokesperson said they were ensuring intelligence released publicly was accurate and properly vetted before distribution.
This is the official explanation.

The White House isn't supposed to have any input at all

2. Possible political or strategic concerns
Some officials involved in the process suggested another reason:

• The report would have raised the official threat level inside the U.S.
• It might suggest that military actions against Iran were increasing domestic security risks.

One DHS official said that concern may have led the administration to pause it.

Yeah, in other words "it would make the war look bad"

3. Inter-agency disagreement
Reports say

• DHS prepared the report
• The FBI objected to how it was handled
• The White House intervened after it was notified only hours before release.

So part of the issue may also have been procedural conflict between agencies

The FBI objected to running it by the White House, because you're not supposed to do that

My thought:
They blocked it because they do not feel it’s time to create mass hysteria in America. They don’t believe that there is a threat of an imminent Mass Terrorist Attack on US soil. Possibly blocking the release of the bulletin to not inspire these attacks from radical individuals.

Why would this lead to mass hysteria? We had threats during the Iraq War without mass hysteria and this bulletin was going to police departments. Sounds an awful lot like they didn't want to face criticism of an unpopular war, and sacrificed a safety protocol to avoid that blowback

 

[InVOLuntary]

Bin Laden received support from a lot of people in the ME, including Trump's buddies in SA and Qatar

Sure they did. Nice strawman.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Then provide a link to a written article saying the same (you can't because it doesn't exist).

It was an interview on TV dude. If you don't believe me that's fine.

Well Reagan and Obama disagreed. And it got the hostages released. That you would violate a signed treaty and international law speaks more to your values and ethics than to Reagan and Obama.

54,000 dead Americans later.

Glad to know you are in favor of sponsoring terrorism.

Prove it. Trump said Iran's nuclear program and ability to rebuild was "obliterated" last June. Are we just re-obliterating it again for ***** and giggles (hint: presume everything Trump says is a lie)?

Of course he embellished. Who gives a sh!t?

Ultimately Bin Laden killed 3,000 plus Americans for about $2 and change. Removing all the so-called teeth from Iran hardly prevents them from terrorizing us or other countries, now does it?

Again, if you don't believe this is a major setback then it's more evidence that this is less about the campaign and more about your hatred for Trump. I'm sure you're hoping for the worst.

 

[allstar34]

The White House isn't supposed to have any input at all

Yeah, in other words "it would make the war look bad"

The FBI objected to running it by the White House, because you're not supposed to do that

Why would this lead to mass hysteria? We had threats during the Iraq War without mass hysteria and this bulletin was going to police departments. Sounds an awful lot like they didn't want to face criticism of an unpopular war, and sacrificed a safety protocol to avoid that blowback

You could be completely correct on this situation. But you’ve also stated before about how every Muslim was looked at negatively after 9/11. My thought was this could have been done to avoid a push back against all the citizens that are Middle Eastern here in America. The moment they start throwing out information about potential attacks on American soil, is also the moment that every single person that looks Iranian becomes a potential terrorist in a portion of the American populations mind. We all know- common sense isn’t common here.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Sure they did. Nice strawman.

It's absolutely a fact. His buddy Putin is giving Iran targeting intelligence now

 

[MontyPython]

I hate to crush your dreams but buddy it’s over except for the crying. Not one single American has been killed in combat and they shot their wad. But you hold out hope.

Oh, I see. By questioning this war, I therefore want our troops to die. Thanks for that insightful tidbit.

And so "it's over" too, no less? Wow. That's great. So I guess you're saying Iran has been re-obliterated and is no longer a threat. Huzzzzah! Come on back home, troops!

 

[EasternVol]

I can't link it because it was an interview with one of the negotiators. He said they were not negotiating anything. He said they offered to provide them with fuel grade uranium so they didn't need centrifuges and they declined.

Who offered to provide who with fuel grade uranium?

 

[n_huffhines]

"They don’t want anything getting out that says what they’re doing in Iran is raising the threat level at home."

Consider the source, but if true this obsession with optics seems dangerous

Trump blocks FBI terror threat alert linked to Iran war

Top Trump officials ordered it placed on hold over concerns that it could show the domestic risk of the war and further erode public support.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I think the most obvious idea here to consider is that we should definitely expect our terror threat level to be going up right now.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

It was an interview on TV dude. If you don't believe me that's fine.


Glad to know you are in favor of sponsoring terrorism.


Of course he embellished. Who gives a sh!t?


Again, if you don't believe this is a major setback then it's more evidence that this is less about the campaign and more about your hatred for Trump. I'm sure you're hoping for the worst.

Everybody that matters gives a sh*t. Idiots with no credibility are the only ones who don't care

 

[NashVol11]

Can it not be true that we obliterated their facility and they still have and have reconstructed some of it and there are other facilities?

Of course he embellished. Who gives a sh!t?

"Can it not be true" and "of course it's not true, who cares" about the exact same claim. The duality of man