Interview with Coach Dooley...

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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Justin, I know you are smarter than that to try and compare La. Tech to Cincinnati. La. Tech has 5% the endowment of Cincinnati, which has just over a $1 billion dollar endowment. Dude, that's the biggest reach I have ever seen. Cincinnati has the 4th largest endowment in the Big East.
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Because Brian Kelly took them to two BCS bowls.

Look at when Kelly started there if it can be found.

Point being, Kelly (proven winner everywhere he's been) took two bottom dwellers and not only had them winning games, but also had them bringing in large amounts of money. Notice, noone mentioned stars or recruiting classes. He just won.

You're making excuses for a coach that hasn't proven anything except that he held this last recruiting class together very well.
 
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justingroves said:
Because Brian Kelly took them to two BCS bowls.

Look at when Kelly started there if it can be found.

Point being, Kelly (proven winner everywhere he's been) took two bottom dwellers and not only had them winning games, but also had them bringing in large amounts of money. Notice, noone mentioned stars or recruiting classes. He just won.

You're making excuses for a coach that hasn't proven anything except that he held this last recruiting class together very well.
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Yeah, they spent money out of that billion dollars to be successful. If you look at the two programs that have been successful in the Big East most recently, both ran a spread and both had better horses to do it than the other schools. What La. Tech has yearly to do with their ENTIRE Athletic Department, is pocket change to Cincinnati. So, spend some money and buy some success. That's a concept as old as time in sports.
 
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ROFL, I just found out that La. Tech's stadium barely holds over 30,000 people. Yeah comparing ANYTHING that could have happened at La. Tech to what may happen here is just completely irrational, IMO.
 
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bleacherreport.com/articles/285979-will-athletic-budgets-be-used-to-classify-schools-as-di-after-2010. Of the 117 schools listed, LaTech was #114, total budget, 12M. Tennessee is #2, 92M. Cincinnati is #63, 34M. Central Michigan is #88. Highest ranked WAC team is Hawaii, #73. Lowest ranked SEC team is Mississippi State, #78, 26M. Vanderbilt is #59, 39M. Despite what many think, CDD did a very good job righting the ship for Tech. I was there for the whole thing. His record at Tech is a non issue. What his record is at Tennessee is what will be important.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Poor comparison IMO. What National Championship program did Brian Kelly help build?
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It's actually a very good comparison. Brian Kelly was never on a staff with a coach like Nick Saban. And I have a feeling Dooley was nothing but a glorified errand boy. Hell, outside of a couple of the California schools, Dooley had the best recruiting base in the WAC. He also had the advantage of picking up the academic casualties from the big boys in the SEC.
And he failed miserably.
 
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justingroves said:
Because Brian Kelly took them to two BCS bowls.

Look at when Kelly started there if it can be found.

Point being, Kelly (proven winner everywhere he's been) took two bottom dwellers and not only had them winning games, but also had them bringing in large amounts of money. Notice, noone mentioned stars or recruiting classes. He just won.

You're making excuses for a coach that hasn't proven anything except that he held this last recruiting class together very well.
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I believe Kelly was 19-16 at Central Michigan and he took over Cincinnati after Dantonio had begun building them up. Under Dantonio, Cinci had a bowl win, played an incredibly hard scheduled and recruited some of Kelly's best players.

Don't get me wrong, I think Kelly is good, but it isn't like he resurrected Cincinnati.

Time will tell with Dooley. I give him credit for getting a bowl win with La Tech, but am still holding out judgement til I see what he does with a real program.
 
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Kiffin61 said:
It's actually a very good comparison. Brian Kelly was never on a staff with a coach like Nick Saban. And I have a feeling Dooley was nothing but a glorified errand boy. Hell, outside of a couple of the California schools, Dooley had the best recruiting base in the WAC. He also had the advantage of picking up the academic casualties from the big boys in the SEC.
And he failed miserably.
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Do you know how many 4 star recruits were signed by all the WAC schools combined while Dooley was at La. Tech?? There were two TOTAL 4* prospects signed by the WAC as a conference from '07-'09. Fresno State and San Jose State signed one each. Dooley took a crap job to try and build something, and he helped build up an entire freaking athletic department and did an OK job with a football program that has been in the gutter since the late 70s. Acting like we know anything about what he could do here at UT is dumb. Now, if everything were equal here at UT versus La. Tech, I would say we were screwed, because then I could make a much better educated GUESS at what he would do.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Do you know how many 4 star recruits were signed by all the WAC schools combined while Dooley was at La. Tech?? There were two TOTAL 4* prospects signed by the WAC as a conference from '07-'09. Fresno State and San Jose State signed one each. Dooley took a crap job to try and build something, and he helped build up an entire freaking athletic department and did an OK job with a football program that has been in the gutter since the late 70s. Acting like we know anything about what he could do here at UT is dumb. Now, if everything were equal here at UT versus La. Tech, I would say we were screwed, because then I could make a much better educated GUESS at what he would do.
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Gary Crowton and Dooley's records at La Tech were similar. Don't pretend like Dooley's accomplishments are comparable to Turner Gill's.
So, you're saying if Louisiana Tech and Tennessee were equal in history/facilities/budget/etc., you'd think we're screwed, but since Louisiana Tech is in the WAC, competing against other WAC teams with similar disadvantages, it's perfectly fine he flat sucked?
That's like moving a dude hitting .206 in AA up to the majors because you think he'll hit better because he'll have more protection in the lineup.
That's basically retarded.
 
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Kiffin61 said:
Gary Crowton and Dooley's records at La Tech were similar. Don't pretend like Dooley's accomplishemnts are comparable to Turner Gill's.
So, you're saying if Louisiana Tech and Tennessee were equal in history/facilities/budget/etc., you'd think we're screwed, but since Louisiana Tech is in the WAC, competing against other WAC teams with similar disadvantages, it's perfectly fine he flat sucked?
That's like moving a dude hitting .206 in AA up to the majors because you think he'll hit better because he'll have more protection in the lineup.
That's basically retarded.
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They were ten years apart and in different conferences that had different structures. The WAC is probably the hardest mid-major conference to play in based on geography alone.
 
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I don't think comparing wins against other coaches tells the whole story. Tennessee is such a big job that you need to hire someone that "fits",not just someone who will come in and win games.

Let's hope we have both.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
They were ten years apart and in different conferences that had different structures. The WAC is probably the hardest mid-major conference to play in based on geography alone.
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So? They were still in mid-major conferences accompanied by similar schools.

WTF are you talking about in regards to geography?

And the Mountain West is better than the WAC.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Do you know how many 4 star recruits were signed by all the WAC schools combined while Dooley was at La. Tech?? There were two TOTAL 4* prospects signed by the WAC as a conference from '07-'09. Fresno State and San Jose State signed one each. Dooley took a crap job to try and build something, and he helped build up an entire freaking athletic department and did an OK job with a football program that has been in the gutter since the late 70s. Acting like we know anything about what he could do here at UT is dumb. Now, if everything were equal here at UT versus La. Tech, I would say we were screwed, because then I could make a much better educated GUESS at what he would do.
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Dooley's win percentage at LT was exactly the same as the win percentage the 10 years prior to his arrival.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
So, wait a minute, I'm just supposed to sit here and act like nothing happened and Lane Kiffin did the right thing in the way he handled this program and the way he left?? I don't think so, and if you think anyone should, then your sorely mistaken. The way I am is because he showed ZERO respect for my favorite school and it's program. There is no way ANYONE should sit here and act like he gave a damn about this place, when he didn't have guts to stay here and build something. Instead, he took his USC memorobilia that was throughout the UT football complex, and went back to LA where he belongs. I hope none of those guys EVER come back to be a part of this conference, which they left to go be a part of the 3rd or 4th best football conference versus the best in the SEC. Butthurt no, jilted probably, pissed because he disrespected my favorite football team in the world, your damn right.
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I'm not saying you shouldn't be upset with the way he left, I was upset too, but that doesn't mean you have to discredit everything thing he does in every thread. Also, football is all about business now, not loyalty. You can't expect a coach to be loyal, when they know they could be fired after 2 years.
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Dooley haters answer:

Since Dooley's record was the same as his predecessor, why did his predecessor get fired and why was Dooley begged to stay?

The people spouting nothing but Dooley's record know NOTHING about his time there, and have likely done little research about it.

Last years La Tech team was just about the youngest and most injury plagued team in D1( in fact, I think they were the tops in both categories) and yet they almost beat Boise and LSU on the road.

Of course, the year before he led them to their first bowl win since 10 years before any of you were born.

But of course, you wanna look at his record and pretend to be e-badasses.
 
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idiotman82 said:
Dooley haters answer:

Since Dooley's record was the same as his predecessor, why did his predecessor get fired and why was Dooley begged to stay?

The people spouting nothing but Dooley's record know NOTHING about his time there, and have likely done little research about it.

Last years La Tech team was just about the youngest and most injury plagued team in D1( in fact, I think they were the tops in both categories) and yet they almost beat Boise and LSU on the road.

Of course, the year before he led them to their first bowl win since 10 years before any of you were born.

But of course, you wanna look at his record and pretend to be e-badasses.
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Good stuff. :good!:
 
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idiotman82 said:
Dooley haters answer:

Since Dooley's record was the same as his predecessor, why did his predecessor get fired and why was Dooley begged to stay?

The people spouting nothing but Dooley's record know NOTHING about his time there, and have likely done little research about it.

Last years La Tech team was just about the youngest and most injury plagued team in D1( in fact, I think they were the tops in both categories) and yet they almost beat Boise and LSU on the road.

Of course, the year before he led them to their first bowl win since 10 years before any of you were born.

But of course, you wanna look at his record and pretend to be e-badasses.
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Yeah, you're totally not pretending to be a badass.
 
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lylsmorr said:
If the offense scores more points and doesn't leave the game on noodle leg, we win. It's not all on Lincoln, so again...get over it
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The offense managed to give Lincoln two shots at that field goal. You have to capitalize, especially with== with our talent against the nation's best defense.
 
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Kiffin61 said:
Completely baseless and most likely erroneous.

If Smith's so much better than O, why didn't the Saints go after him instead?

Hell, why didn't any NFL or college team go after Chuck Smith for DL coach?

Seems to me he was a glorified cheerleader for the Jets.
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Bull s*** and you know it. Smith trains Pro Bowlers. Pro Bowlers CALL HIM to train with him. Stop with the verbal fellatio of the old staff, they're gone. We upgraded at defensive line coach - fact. Oh, and pertaining to the bold...he was a DL coach for the #1 defense in the NFL. Genius
 
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Sabanocchio said:
There's nothing wrong with a healthy bit of skepticism. But saying that you know he will fail based on the evidence available to everyone is a bit premature. Plenty of unbiased observers think he'll do well.
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Ding, ding, ding!!! We have a winner! This post pretty much sums it up.
 
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kptvol said:
The offense managed to give Lincoln two shots at that field goal. You have to capitalize, especially with== with our talent against the nation's best defense.
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I know that. This guy is placing every bit of the blame on Lincoln though, and that's just foolish. There were plenty of other players that didn't "capitalize"
 
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lylsmorr said:
I know that. This guy is placing every bit of the blame on Lincoln though, and that's just foolish. There were plenty of other players that didn't "capitalize"
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Sure, but I don't think you can overemphasize Lincoln's terriblosity.
 
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idiotman82 said:
Dooley haters answer:

Since Dooley's record was the same as his predecessor, why did his predecessor get fired and why was Dooley begged to stay?

The people spouting nothing but Dooley's record know NOTHING about his time there, and have likely done little research about it.

Last years La Tech team was just about the youngest and most injury plagued team in D1( in fact, I think they were the tops in both categories) and yet they almost beat Boise and LSU on the road.

Of course, the year before he led them to their first bowl win since 10 years before any of you were born.

But of course, you wanna look at his record and pretend to be e-badasses.
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Actually, that pretty well sums it up, too. Combine this with Sab's and we don't have to have this debate again until after the '10 season.

What do you guys wanna talk about? Recruiting? Chicks?
 
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