If You Could Change the Outcome of One Play.........

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#101
supersmo18 said:
The "hobnail boot." This play (and Larry Munson's codgety old voice) is honestly the only reason I hate Georgia.
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Yep... That was just awful.

That screen pass to Stephens was one of the greatest things I've ever witnessed...

Then, well, you know what happened... :disappointed:
 
#102
#102
as an 18 year old, I don't remember many games earlier than 04, so honestly my answer is the LSU game and 13 men on the field...
 
#103
#103
2001 SEC Championship game, Stallworth fumble. If we win, we put one of our more talented teams of all time against the unbelievably talented Miami team. I don't know if we win or not, but I would've loved to have seen it.

2006 Mapu Roughing the QB penalty. If Mitchell's pick 6 counts, we win that game hands down.

2010 LSU mishap. That could've/should've been the signature early victory for Dooley a la Pearl at Texas early in his first season. Just a really unfortunate turn of events that went against us.

2005 Bama game. Corey Anderson's fumble really cost us a shot at beating Bama and getting the 2005 season turned around. I really felt like we just spiralled out of control after that game.

I would've put the 2009 Bama game, but considering the exit of a certaing coach abruptly at the end of that season, it would've probably only intensified the hatered even more if that's even possible.
 
#105
#105
It's not really a play but how about not calling the subs in the LSU game?
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#106
#106
Boca Vol said:
This is probably the most interesting topic I've read on this board. Plus, there have been some great answers given. For me, you have to look at key plays where UT, had they won the game, would've put them in position to win the conference or put them the national title hunt.

Someone mentioned the '92 Ark game. UT wins that game there is no way S. Carolina beats them. Bama only won 17-10 in Neyland and there would've been a re-match in B'ham.

Certainly the 4th down call at UF in '99. UT picks up the 1st down and goes on to win that game, they're back in New Orleans with a re-match against FSU.

2001, the Stallworth fumble sealed the deal against LSU. The squib kick against UGA had me screaming at the TV!

2004, the final play of the 1st half vs. ND. Sanders (or whoever called that play) should've been fired on the spot. Take a knee and go into halftime. Later that year, UT had Auburn on the ropes and played very undisciplined in the 2nd half of the SECCG.

2006, the pick 6 against UF as well as a couple of costly penalties cost UT the SEC title.

There are other plays mentioned that are heartbreaking as well. Thanks for the walk down misery lane! :mad:
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Very good list. I agree--if we're talking about changing one play, it's gotta get us into a SEC championship game minimum and preferably a chance at NC. Has to be between the '99 and '01 plays for me.
 
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Boca Vol said:
This is probably the most interesting topic I've read on this board. Plus, there have been some great answers given. For me, you have to look at key plays where UT, had they won the game, would've put them in position to win the conference or put them the national title hunt.

Someone mentioned the '92 Ark game. UT wins that game there is no way S. Carolina beats them. Bama only won 17-10 in Neyland and there would've been a re-match in B'ham.

Certainly the 4th down call at UF in '99. UT picks up the 1st down and goes on to win that game, they're back in New Orleans with a re-match against FSU.

2001, the Stallworth fumble sealed the deal against LSU. The squib kick against UGA had me screaming at the TV!

2004, the final play of the 1st half vs. ND. Sanders (or whoever called that play) should've been fired on the spot. Take a knee and go into halftime. Later that year, UT had Auburn on the ropes and played very undisciplined in the 2nd half of the SECCG.

2006, the pick 6 against UF as well as a couple of costly penalties cost UT the SEC title.

There are other plays mentioned that are heartbreaking as well. Thanks for the walk down misery lane! :mad:
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Those are great call-outs. The results of both got Johnny and Phil fired. I sometimes forget how damn close we were in 1992 - I forget which Hawg ran that KO back, but I was in the end zone he was running towards.....

Having said that, I was on the 50 for the Bama game in 1992, and watching Curry and Copeland destroy our offensive line again in B'ham would not have been pretty. And they were blowing holes in our defensive front. I remember it as one of the worst 7-point beatings in Vol football history. Yet, we had the ball with two minutes left.... then Curry / Copeland almost knocked Shuler out.
 
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Boca Vol said:
2004, the final play of the 1st half vs. ND. Sanders (or whoever called that play) should've been fired on the spot. Take a knee and go into halftime.
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did you say the same at the end of the 1st half vs UF in 2003?
 
#110
#110
Nice topic.

My nominees.

1990 -

1. The play Churck Webb goes down

2. The int versus Notre Dame

3. The field goal sequence versus Bama

1996 -

1. The KO return against Memphis.

2. Not converting a 3rd and 1 late in the same game and having to kick the field goal

3. A dropped TD pass by Diogu in the endzone when he was wide open. Manning threw a pick the next play.

1994 -

Colquitt going down at UCLA.
 
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duckman398686 said:
......throughout the entire course of Tennessee's history what would it be, and why?

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Hrm...can't think of one. I'll go with 3

1) Greg Burke kick in 1990 vs. Alabama, I'd rather that kick be good and UT win rather than have it get blocked, then roll backwards for 40 yards, get recovered by alabama, and have them kick the game winner 10 seconds later as time expired. 1990 was a goofy year, UT has a good shot at a NT if that kick is good (maybe even a shot if the OTHER kick numb nuts missed, vs Auburn, went through...)

2) I wish Chuck Webb had not played vs. Pacific in 1990. Also would have changed the season. Tony Thompson had a great year, but not the year we'd have had with Webb.

3) I wish Joey Kent had not gotten slobber-knocked and fumbled vs. Florida in 1995, opening the floodgates for the worst loss and worst case of Florida-quicksand ever (and also probably preventing us from winning it all with Peyton's best team).
 
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#112
wow, this is a good thread. The one that initially came to mind for me was the Stallworth fumble and although a lot of ppl will say Miami would have beaten us in the Natl Championsip game, I remember the following year Ohio State had no business being on the field with Miami and pulled off the upset.
 
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#113
I echo the '90 Bama, '05 bama fumble, the '99 Florida 4th down, the '01 Georgia kicking fiasco, the '01 SECCG fumble, and the '03 Georgia halftime fumble. I will throw a few more out that have not been mentioned:

1) '97 Florida, Marcus Nash drops a TD...next play Peyton throws a pick 6.

2) '05 Florida, start of 3rd Q Kevin Simon drops a pick 6, next play Heffney fumbles punt and changes momentum and goes on to one of the worst losses in Fulmer's career.

3) '90 Auburn, Greg Burke missed a chip shot FG that gave us a tie that felt like a loss

4) '99 Arkansas, 4th down play Martin threw into double coverage, if you go back and watch the play, T. Henry is uncovered on the wheel route. We win, go back to SECCG.

5) '03, Auburn, We are driving with all the momentum down 7. Clausen barely overthrows a WIDE OPEN Troy Fleming (he sort of dropped it) that would have tied the game. 3 plays later, Clausen throws a pick. Really think we would have won that game in OT.
 
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FlashVolNJ said:
wow, this is a good thread. The one that initially came to mind for me was the Stallworth fumble and although a lot of ppl will say Miami would have beaten us in the Natl Championsip game, I remember the following year Ohio State had no business being on the field with Miami and pulled off the upset.
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That Miami team was the most talented team in CFB history...but Larry Coker was coaching, and that means you ALWAYS have a chance.
 
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utvolpj said:
did you say the same at the end of the 1st half vs UF in 2003?
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Actually, I did. It's funny you asked that. I was sitting in the stands at Florida field watching the time tick down. There was time to run a couple of plays to get in FG range. UT lets the clock run down to a couple of seconds before running the last play. It worked out but certainly wasn't a model of clock management.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Actually, I did. It's funny you asked that. I was sitting in the stands at Florida field watching the time tick down. There was time to run a couple of plays to get in FG range. UT lets the clock run down to a couple of seconds before running the last play. It worked out but certainly wasn't a model of clock management.
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so you said that was stupid or you cheered for the td? If you cheered you're being pretty hypocritical
 
#117
#117
...in the last 10 years was not on the playing field.

It was in a UT dorm in April 2005, when Brent Schaeffer got into a fight that got him thrown out by Fulmer.

If he's wearing orange in 2005, UT wins close games vs. Alabama (6-3), SCar (16-15) and Vandy (28-24), possibly beats Florida (16-7), and goes 9-2.

Let your mind wander about where we (and Florida) would be now, if Sanders had used Schaeffer's legs prudently and smoked Florida in 2006.

Kiffin (and UMeyer) would have found a way to keep him.
 
#118
#118
Brent Schaeffer was supposed to be our savior? Holy crap Fulmer was screwed no matter what
 
#119
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utvolpj said:
did you say the same at the end of the 1st half vs UF in 2003?
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Good point, but I think the circumstances were different. The strength of that ND team was defense. It wasn't that hard to tell that the game wouldn't be a shootout where we'd need an extra score to win. Against Florida, you can always use more points.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
...in the last 10 years was not on the playing field.

It was in a UT dorm in April 2005, when Brent Schaeffer got into a fight that got him thrown out by Fulmer.

If he's wearing orange in 2005, UT wins close games vs. Alabama (6-3), SCar (16-15) and Vandy (28-24), possibly beats Florida (16-7), and goes 9-2.

Let your mind wander about where we (and Florida) would be now, if Sanders had used Schaeffer's legs prudently and smoked Florida in 2006.

Kiffin (and UMeyer) would have found a way to keep him.
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You have entered the world of utgibbs.
 
#121
#121
If Schaffer was the Savior, Orgeron never gets fired.

2006, easy. We are two bad calls from an SEC title appearance and shot to play Ohio State in the national championship.

1. Mapu roughing the passer which wasn't a roughing the passer. God awful call.

2. Jamarcus fumble being called a fumble. It was clearly a fumble. I don't even think they reviewed the play.

Change those plays, and we are 12-1 going into face Arkansas in Atlanta.

Hell, about the USCe play where Ainge sprained his ankle. If he just immedieatly goes down, we beat LSU (I know Crompton played well, but he threw two picks) and who knows how Arkansas turns out (we still probably lose, but still).

Three unlucky plays. Damn.
 
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utvolpj said:
so you said that was stupid or you cheered for the td? If you cheered you're being pretty hypocritical
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Why do you say that? Good outcomes can happen from tactical mistakes. It doesn't mean you can't celebrate a TD. And no, it isn't being hypocritical.

I was simply stating there was time to run a few more plays to either get in FG range, or score a TD instead of relying on a Hail Mary that works about 3% of the time. It worked out, which is great.
 
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utvolpj said:
Brent Schaeffer was supposed to be our savior? Holy crap Fulmer was screwed no matter what
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How many times in '05 did UT's line come up snake eyes on 3rd and 5? More often than not. Why? Because (as usual) we had two slow-footed QBs in the backfield and opponents blitzed at will.

Schaeffer, like Holloway (and Tebow), had the legs to steal a lot of 1st downs.

I didn't say he was the every-down QB or any "savior."

9-2.
 
#124
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zjcvols said:
If Schaffer was the Savior, Orgeron never gets fired.

2006, easy. We are two bad calls from an SEC title appearance and shot to play Ohio State in the national championship.

1. Mapu roughing the passer which wasn't a roughing the passer. God awful call.

2. Jamarcus fumble being called a fumble. It was clearly a fumble. I don't even think they reviewed the play.

Change those plays, and we are 12-1 going into face Arkansas in Atlanta.

Hell, about the USCe play where Ainge sprained his ankle. If he just immedieatly goes down, we beat LSU (I know Crompton played well, but he threw two picks) and who knows how Arkansas turns out (we still probably lose, but still).

Three unlucky plays. Damn.
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The blocking foul that caused UF to have a TD called back was just as bad of a blown call. Also, I don't know how well Ainge would have done against LSU. Erik was already gimpy when he took the field against South Carolina. With the heat LSU was bringing that day an immobile Ainge would probably have been taken out fairly early, anyway.
 
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#125
volnSC said:
The 2001 SECCG. We had the best team in the country that year and gave away a 2nd BCS Championship.
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With all due respect, that 2001 Miami team you guys would have had to play is probably in the top 3 of greatest college football teams of all time............and many have them #1.
 
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