If Chadwell Ends Up Being the Guy...

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SmokeyDog1973 said:
How did that kind of offense work out when we hired Butch? We had a small undersized Oline for the SEC.
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The offense Butch ran was nowhere as technical and complex as Chadwells and if I remember correctly Dobbs ran it like a champ..Sometimes different is better.
 
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LittleVol said:
Theres so many colleges and coaches with all kinds of success that never get recognized.
Not a lot of people are doing what Chadwell has been able to do.

Coastal Carolina was not even close to the most talented team even in the Sun-Belt conference.
Heś beating superior teams by scheme and heart!
Imagine if you give him 4 and 5 star players...

Bill Snyder was a guy with Kansas State that was so good. He always fielded good tough well coached teams. And when he did get some real talent, they always had great teams.
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Then you're aware Bill Snyder lived off of JUCO kids.
 
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buckfama said:
His offense doesn't play in the SEC. If you can't match up somewhat physically, you will get ground into dust.
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SmokeyDog1973 said:
He is overrated and his offense is smoke and mirrors wouldn’t translate to the weekly grind of the SEC.
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Same thing was said about every different offense to come to the SEC. I know, from personal experience, fans and talking heads didn't believe Spurrier's or Meyer's offense would work.
 
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I thought cc played like thugs, especially on the defensive side. Late hits, cheap shots, punches
 
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We will see if it changes with a new AD now in place but as of now Chadwell hasn't heard anything from Tennessee.
 
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LittleVol said:
Look guys its FINE to have an opinion.
But HAVE an opinion haha. just do little research.

Heś coached at two other places since Charleston Southern. And he won NCAA Coach of the Year this season.

Not busting you up or anything, but heś had success before coastal.
He was 3 points away from having Coastal Carolina finishing as a Top 10 team with a roster NOT even in the top 100 FBS...imagine what he could do with a Top 25 talent roster- which Tennessee still has.

Before Coastal he was Southern Conference COY 3 times...

He had one of the most balanced offenses in college football.

Hes not some flash in the pan, heś been a head coach for over 100 games and has a winning record while most all of them were REBUILDS!
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I was referring to success in Division one, not FCS or Division 2. We see Coach's like this every year have one great year at a small school and suddenly he's the next Great big school coach. Charlie Strong, Jim McElwain, Kevin Sumlin, Willie Taggart, Scott Frost, Dino Babers, Mike MacIntyre, Mike London, Matt Wells, Larry Fedora, Chad Morris, Steve Kragthorpe, Sonny Dykes., Al Golden that's just a few..Not saying he isn't or won't be any HC can have one great season with a sr dominated team. We can't get this wrong again.
 
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It will be interesting to see whom White has on his short list and whom he will hire for the head coaching job.
 
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LittleVol said:
Oh so we cant hire a 3 time conference coach of the year??
AN AP COACH OF THE YEAR. as in the ENTIRE FBS.

Urban Meyer was Bowling Green at one time.
Brian Kelly at Central Michigan.

What are those bums doing now right??
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Jimbo Fisher was an OC.
Dabo was just a position coach.
Saban has a mildly successful record at Michigan State.
There is no guarantee.
 
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rowsdower said:
Same thing was said about every different offense to come to the SEC. I know, from personal experience, fans and talking heads didn't believe Spurrier's or Meyer's offense would work.
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You can't compare his offense to Spurrier's, he had SEC size and speed running it. And his defense was no joke either.

I'm mainly speaking about the notion that he doesn't need size or speed to be successful with his offense.

In the SEC you had better have both.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
BYU says GTFO!
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Do you think BYU would have beat Bama, Florida, or Georgia?

We were outcoached.

Not saying coaching can't overcome some talent differences, but at some point to be able to match up with your opponent to consistently win here in this conference.

The only coach I can think of that might be able to consistently compete with other teams with more talent was Chris Peterson when he was with Boise State.

He beat Georgia and Oklahoma. He was a master at schemes and trick plays, and his players played lights out for him.

Even when he beat those teams, the narrative around here was "well, Boise wouldn't be undefeated if they played an SEC schedule ".

If the narrative was coaching and schemes wouldn't hold up to an "SEC" schedule for Chris Peterson, then why will they suddenly work for Chadwell?

They won't.

He will need SEC players to compete for SEC championships.

Chadwell may be good, but he's no Chris Peterson.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
I was referring to success in Division one, not FCS or Division 2. We see Coach's like this every year have one great year at a small school and suddenly he's the next Great big school coach. Charlie Strong, Jim McElwain, Kevin Sumlin, Willie Taggart, Scott Frost, Dino Babers, Mike MacIntyre, Mike London, Matt Wells, Larry Fedora, Chad Morris, Steve Kragthorpe, Sonny Dykes., Al Golden that's just a few..Not saying he isn't or won't be any HC can have one great season with a sr dominated team. We can't get this wrong again.
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Well part of "getting it right" is taking what you have, and improving on it.
Literally that is what the man has done at 3 different stops now. Not to mention the weird dynamic heś had to deal with at Coastal with their Former HC/AD stock market mogul that canẗ seem to let go of the program. That experience alone helps a great deal in having to be the Head Man at bigger program.

All those guy you mentioned above have never created their own offense. Not even Sumlin or Frost, and I knew both of them on their rise. They adopted variations from other offenses throughout their time Which is fine. But to create an offense and prove itś success at every level you run in it at is something else entirely. That actually means, through his creativity, he becomes more adaptable. Usually its reversed.

You slight his success at the lower level. Well the guys he was coaching were ALSO at a lower level. Itś still football.

My view on Chadwell is that heś a younger less preachy Hugh Freeze, who would be a winner for 20 YEARS at Tennessee. Cant get much more right than that.
 
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buckfama said:
Do you think BYU would have beat Bama, Florida, or Georgia?

We were outcoached.

Not saying coaching can't overcome some talent differences, but at some point to be able to match up with your opponent to consistently win here in this conference.

The only coach I can think of that might be able to consistently compete with other teams with more talent was Chris Peterson when he was with Boise State.

He beat Georgia and Oklahoma. He was a master at schemes and trick plays, and his players played lights out for him.

Even when he beat those teams, the narrative around here was "well, Boise wouldn't be undefeated if they played an SEC schedule ".

If the narrative was coaching and schemes wouldn't hold up to an "SEC" schedule for Chris Peterson, then why will they suddenly work for Chadwell?

They won't.

He will need SEC players to compete for SEC championships.

Chadwell may be good, but he's no Chris Peterson.
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I can tell you who BYU did beat...haha. So can Alontae Taylor and Nigel Warrior.
 
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LittleVol said:
I can tell you who BYU did beat...haha. So can Alontae Taylor and Nigel Warrior.
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Lmao!! Yes they did.

I think they are misunderstanding what I'm saying.

I'm not saying his offense can't be successful, I'm just saying in order to consistently compete and win in the SEC that he will need SEC type players.

Alonte Taylor is still sitting in that zone coverage wondering where the safety is. Haha
 
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VolFann9 said:
I agree that if we had a qb that didn't destroy our hopes an dreams in the red zone then the Pruitt tenure could have looked vastly different
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Perhaps, but it would have ended in a disaster no matter what his record was here. Teams like Georgia or USC or Ala were ready to turn us in whenever it was convenient. So Pruitt's reign was basically a DEAD MAN WALKING. Pruitt will be hanging out on Demonbruen Street in Nashville with a "will coach for food" sign soon. And if he does, he will starve.
 
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