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Some difficult yet weird truths about CJH: His evaluation skills have been oddly bad. His biggest success stories? Jeremy Pruitt recruits. Hendon Hooker was Pruitt’s recruit—yet Heupel handed the job to Joe Milton, a QB he chose, over Hendon. We all saw how that turned out.

So I don’t understand the angst around Joey Aguilar.

Heupel may struggle at talent evaluation, but he’s elite at maximizing lesser talent. Last season, the truth was…..Nico was a liability. But Heupel schemed around him and still managed 10 wins. That’s what great coaches do.

Ok so we have Joey Aguilar—a seasoned QB who thrived at Appalachian State despite having:
  • a weaker O-line,
  • Inferior coaching, (is anyone really going to argue any of those app state coaches have the prowess and offensive genius of CJH?)
  • and worse overall talent around him.
And he still balled out. So why shouldn’t we believe Heupel can coach this guy to at least match, if not exceed, what Nico did?

JA could throw for 4,000+ yards in this system. He’s got a better offensive line this time, the defense is still solid, and the run game is always there under Heupel. WRs are a little shaky and unproven- I’ll give you that, but still better then anything he ever had at app state or ucla for that matter.

Is he Cam Newton? No. Is he some huge blue chip recruit? No. But I’m tired of that. The last guy we trusted screwed us- for the slow ones in the back I’m talkin about Nico. You got a guy that was casted to the side and is pissed off and ready to prove himself.

My point: let’s just see what happens.
 
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Volanta said:
Some difficult yet weird truths about CJH: His evaluation skills have been oddly bad. His biggest success stories? Jeremy Pruitt recruits. Hendon Hooker was Pruitt’s recruit—yet Heupel handed the job to Joe Milton, a QB he chose, over Hendon. We all saw how that turned out.

So I don’t understand the angst around Joey Aguilar.

Heupel may struggle at talent evaluation, but he’s elite at maximizing lesser talent. Last season, the truth was…..Nico was a liability. But Heupel schemed around him and still managed 10 wins. That’s what great coaches do.

Ok so we have Joey Aguilar—a seasoned QB who thrived at Appalachian State despite having:
  • a weaker O-line,
  • Inferior coaching, (is anyone really going to argue any of those app state coaches have the prowess and offensive genius of CJH?)
  • and worse overall talent around him.
And he still balled out. So why shouldn’t we believe Heupel can coach this guy to at least match, if not exceed, what Nico did?

JA could throw for 4,000+ yards in this system. He’s got a better offensive line this time, the defense is still solid, and the run game is always there under Heupel. WRs are a little shaky and unproven- I’ll give you that, but still better then anything he ever had at app state or ucla for that matter.

Is he Cam Newton? No. Is he some huge blue chip recruit? No. But I’m tired of that. The last guy we trusted screwed us- for the slow ones in the back I’m talkin about Nico. You got a guy that was casted to the side and is pissed off and ready to prove himself.

My point: let’s just see what happens.
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What do you know about talent evaluation that Heupel doesn't know?
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
What do you know about talent evaluation that Heupel doesn't know?
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Many of the guys he brought in didn’t hit. Also our most productive players during his tenure have been Pruitt recruits.

He recruited Nico and it’s safe to say he didn’t fit the system. He even hand picked a qb in Milton over hooker and still was wrong. That’s just not his strength. Sorry not sorry.

Lastly if you remember that was a huge knock on him at his previous stop. He balled out with Scott Frost’s recruits and struggled as they left.
 
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Huepel recovered well. He tried to get several QB's but the timing is bad as they have already been named starters at their current school. Aguilar looks like he has some potential, elusiveness, running capability and strong arm. Most important he is not a 190lb freshman string bean at 220lbs.
 
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VOLtaism said:
Huepel recovered well. He tried to get several QB's but the timing is bad as they have already been named starters at their current school. Aguilar looks like he has some potential, elusiveness, running capability and strong arm. Most important he is not a 190lb freshman string bean at 220lbs.
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I agree. I think for the situation we were put in he did great. Although I wish he would be more aggressive in the portal period and get better WRs. No excuse for that.
 
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Volanta said:
Some difficult yet weird truths about CJH: His evaluation skills have been oddly bad. His biggest success stories? Jeremy Pruitt recruits. Hendon Hooker was Pruitt’s recruit—yet Heupel handed the job to Joe Milton, a QB he chose, over Hendon. We all saw how that turned out.

So I don’t understand the angst around Joey Aguilar.

Heupel may struggle at talent evaluation, but he’s elite at maximizing lesser talent. Last season, the truth was…..Nico was a liability. But Heupel schemed around him and still managed 10 wins. That’s what great coaches do.

Ok so we have Joey Aguilar—a seasoned QB who thrived at Appalachian State despite having:
  • a weaker O-line,
  • Inferior coaching, (is anyone really going to argue any of those app state coaches have the prowess and offensive genius of CJH?)
  • and worse overall talent around him.
And he still balled out. So why shouldn’t we believe Heupel can coach this guy to at least match, if not exceed, what Nico did?

JA could throw for 4,000+ yards in this system. He’s got a better offensive line this time, the defense is still solid, and the run game is always there under Heupel. WRs are a little shaky and unproven- I’ll give you that, but still better then anything he ever had at app state or ucla for that matter.

Is he Cam Newton? No. Is he some huge blue chip recruit? No. But I’m tired of that. The last guy we trusted screwed us- for the slow ones in the back I’m talkin about Nico. You got a guy that was casted to the side and is pissed off and ready to prove himself.

My point: let’s just see what happens.
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Wait, is this a slam on Heupel or are you praising him?
 
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barrylee said:
We have some of the most arrogant fans! Keyboard warriors in here thinking they know more than Heup!
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What we have is a very long summer before football kicks off, so folks need something to fill in the time. Post like these are pretty much the same post that have been up 30 other times before, but they just rearrange some words and start a new thread. Could come from folks hitting the liquor cabinet early , or just nothing else to do.
 
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Volanta said:
Some difficult yet weird truths about CJH: His evaluation skills have been oddly bad. His biggest success stories? Jeremy Pruitt recruits. Hendon Hooker was Pruitt’s recruit—yet Heupel handed the job to Joe Milton, a QB he chose, over Hendon. We all saw how that turned out.

So I don’t understand the angst around Joey Aguilar.

Heupel may struggle at talent evaluation, but he’s elite at maximizing lesser talent. Last season, the truth was…..Nico was a liability. But Heupel schemed around him and still managed 10 wins. That’s what great coaches do.

Ok so we have Joey Aguilar—a seasoned QB who thrived at Appalachian State despite having:
  • a weaker O-line,
  • Inferior coaching, (is anyone really going to argue any of those app state coaches have the prowess and offensive genius of CJH?)
  • and worse overall talent around him.
And he still balled out. So why shouldn’t we believe Heupel can coach this guy to at least match, if not exceed, what Nico did?

JA could throw for 4,000+ yards in this system. He’s got a better offensive line this time, the defense is still solid, and the run game is always there under Heupel. WRs are a little shaky and unproven- I’ll give you that, but still better then anything he ever had at app state or ucla for that matter.

Is he Cam Newton? No. Is he some huge blue chip recruit? No. But I’m tired of that. The last guy we trusted screwed us- for the slow ones in the back I’m talkin about Nico. You got a guy that was casted to the side and is pissed off and ready to prove himself.

My point: let’s just see what happens.
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I know I know! we'd be so much better off with Butch or Cornbread!
 
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Volanta said:
Some difficult yet weird truths about CJH: His evaluation skills have been oddly bad. His biggest success stories? Jeremy Pruitt recruits. Hendon Hooker was Pruitt’s recruit—yet Heupel handed the job to Joe Milton, a QB he chose, over Hendon. We all saw how that turned out.

So I don’t understand the angst around Joey Aguilar.

Heupel may struggle at talent evaluation, but he’s elite at maximizing lesser talent. Last season, the truth was…..Nico was a liability. But Heupel schemed around him and still managed 10 wins. That’s what great coaches do.

Ok so we have Joey Aguilar—a seasoned QB who thrived at Appalachian State despite having:
  • a weaker O-line,
  • Inferior coaching, (is anyone really going to argue any of those app state coaches have the prowess and offensive genius of CJH?)
  • and worse overall talent around him.
And he still balled out. So why shouldn’t we believe Heupel can coach this guy to at least match, if not exceed, what Nico did?

JA could throw for 4,000+ yards in this system. He’s got a better offensive line this time, the defense is still solid, and the run game is always there under Heupel. WRs are a little shaky and unproven- I’ll give you that, but still better then anything he ever had at app state or ucla for that matter.

Is he Cam Newton? No. Is he some huge blue chip recruit? No. But I’m tired of that. The last guy we trusted screwed us- for the slow ones in the back I’m talkin about Nico. You got a guy that was casted to the side and is pissed off and ready to prove himself.

My point: let’s just see what happens.
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What? His evaluation skills have been oddly bad? Did he not construct the entire roster that just went to the CFP?
 
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Volanta said:
I agree. I think for the situation we were put in he did great. Although I wish he would be more aggressive in the portal period and get better WRs. No excuse for that.
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Get better wide receivers? We've got a very talented group, they're just inexperienced. Everything's there to be successful, physically speaking.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
What? His evaluation skills have been oddly bad? Did he not construct the entire roster that just went to the CFP?
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We're sick of improving every year even though we just came out of a program defining scandal that could have led to a generations worth of basement dwelling. Furthermore, this crawling out of sheol that we've been in since about 06'-07' is hurting the trolls and negavols......we are a woke society now and need to be all inclusive to include the feelings and well-being of trolls and nega's.......we need to hope for a complete failure this year to allow for the peace of our opposite spectrum brothers and sisters.
 
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