I don’t get why you don’t get it

#52
#52
Volanta said:
Many of the guys he brought in didn’t hit. Also our most productive players during his tenure have been Pruitt recruits.

He recruited Nico and it’s safe to say he didn’t fit the system. He even hand picked a qb in Milton over hooker and still was wrong. That’s just not his strength. Sorry not sorry.

Lastly if you remember that was a huge knock on him at his previous stop. He balled out with Scott Frost’s recruits and struggled as they left.
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Meh, give it a little time. He missed on Nico but he was coming along. Redshirt freshman the only year he played. Recruiting was hampered the first few years bc of violations. We’ve been pretty damn good in the portal but kind of hampered by injuries. Long story short evaluations are somewhat overplayed. If you’re winning 10 games year in and out you’re doing pretty good
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Kirby Smart is a helluva football coach, especially on the defensive side of the ball. I don't know how anybody could legitimately think otherwise at this point.
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Sad but mostly true. His QB management seems to be a weakness but he succeeds in spite of QBs with significant flaws.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Meh, give it a little time. He missed on Nico but he was coming along. Redshirt freshman the only year he played. Recruiting was hampered the first few years bc of violations. We’ve been pretty damn good in the portal but kind of hampered by injuries. Long story short evaluations are somewhat overplayed. If you’re winning 10 games year in and out you’re doing pretty good
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You've got to take guys like Nico. Especially with that kind of size, speed and arm talent. Couple that with team success and it's a big time 5 star. No way to evaluate his ability to read a big time defense coming at him until it actually happens.
 
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Volanta said:
Many of the guys he brought in didn’t hit. Also our most productive players during his tenure have been Pruitt recruits.

He recruited Nico and it’s safe to say he didn’t fit the system. He even hand picked a qb in Milton over hooker and still was wrong. That’s just not his strength. Sorry not sorry.

Lastly if you remember that was a huge knock on him at his previous stop. He balled out with Scott Frost’s recruits and struggled as they left.
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Volanta said:
Many of the guys he brought in didn’t hit. Also our most productive players during his tenure have been Pruitt recruits.

He recruited Nico and it’s safe to say he didn’t fit the system. He even hand picked a qb in Milton over hooker and still was wrong. That’s just not his strength. Sorry not sorry.

Lastly if you remember that was a huge knock on him at his previous stop. He balled out with Scott Frost’s recruits and struggled as they left.
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In fairness it’s not like huepel went out and picked a random qb that was magically perfect. He did however get the top rated player in the class.

The fact he didn’t work out can be attributed to a number of reasons. It’s not that he didn’t fit the system, he didn’t make his decisions fast enough and struggled in other areas in his first year.

We could of course play the what could have been in 2025.

However no one expected the last 2 weeks to unfold the way they did. Nico was not even a redshirt sophomore.

Joe Milton and hooker were both drafted qbs neither one was a bad choice. Hooker exploded when opportunity presented itself. Our coach is a proven developer for qbs. Not everyone will pan out.
 
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Volanta said:
Some difficult yet weird truths about CJH: His evaluation skills have been oddly bad. His biggest success stories? Jeremy Pruitt recruits. Hendon Hooker was Pruitt’s recruit—yet Heupel handed the job to Joe Milton, a QB he chose, over Hendon. We all saw how that turned out.

So I don’t understand the angst around Joey Aguilar.

Heupel may struggle at talent evaluation, but he’s elite at maximizing lesser talent. Last season, the truth was…..Nico was a liability. But Heupel schemed around him and still managed 10 wins. That’s what great coaches do.

Ok so we have Joey Aguilar—a seasoned QB who thrived at Appalachian State despite having:
  • a weaker O-line,
  • Inferior coaching, (is anyone really going to argue any of those app state coaches have the prowess and offensive genius of CJH?)
  • and worse overall talent around him.
And he still balled out. So why shouldn’t we believe Heupel can coach this guy to at least match, if not exceed, what Nico did?

JA could throw for 4,000+ yards in this system. He’s got a better offensive line this time, the defense is still solid, and the run game is always there under Heupel. WRs are a little shaky and unproven- I’ll give you that, but still better then anything he ever had at app state or ucla for that matter.

Is he Cam Newton? No. Is he some huge blue chip recruit? No. But I’m tired of that. The last guy we trusted screwed us- for the slow ones in the back I’m talkin about Nico. You got a guy that was casted to the side and is pissed off and ready to prove himself.

My point: let’s just see what happens.
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I actually think any of the qb on our roster could do as good if not better than Nico did.
 
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Vol_fan_in_Tampa said:
In fairness it’s not like huepel went out and picked a random qb that was magically perfect. He did however get the top rated player in the class.

The fact he didn’t work out can be attributed to a number of reasons. It’s not that he didn’t fit the system, he didn’t make his decisions fast enough and struggled in other areas in his first year.

We could of course play the what could have been in 2025.

However no one expected the last 2 weeks to unfold the way they did. Nico was not even a redshirt sophomore.

Joe Milton and hooker were both drafted qbs neither one was a bad choice. Hooker exploded when opportunity presented itself. Our coach is a proven developer for qbs. Not everyone will pan out.
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Milton will have more longevity in the NFL. Certainly not because he's a better QB, but because he can be an effective backup with his supreme athletic skills at the position. Hooker was more precise and efficient in college. Not even close. Milton played well in the actual time he got on the field last year. He might not do anything of note in the NFL, but likely more so than Hooker
 
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volfeeva said:
What we have is a very long summer before football kicks off, so folks need something to fill in the time. Post like these are pretty much the same post that have been up 30 other times before, but they just rearrange some words and start a new thread. Could come from folks hitting the liquor cabinet early , or just nothing else to do.
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Or just sheer ignorance
 
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YankeeVol said:
Bennett won 2 NCs and got drafted. Timmay led them to the playoffs.
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Kirby told Bennett he wasn’t part of UGA’s plan. Bennett refused to cooperate and waited for multiple 5-stars to depart before getting a chance, including Justin Fields, who Kirby ran off in favor of Jake Fromm IIRC
 
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Maybe you morons would be happier with Derek Doolittle or Botch Jones?!?!

Everyone gets ready!!!! Music city is on the line!
 
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DaddyChad said:
Meh, give it a little time. He missed on Nico but he was coming along. Redshirt freshman the only year he played. Recruiting was hampered the first few years bc of violations. We’ve been pretty damn good in the portal but kind of hampered by injuries. Long story short evaluations are somewhat overplayed. If you’re winning 10 games year in and out you’re doing pretty good
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I agree. At the end of my post I said “let’s see what happens”
 
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columbia vol said:
No I believe he was another of Coach Heupel’s “ misses” Lol
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Guys his most successful year was a team chalked full of Pruitt holdovers. This is not hard. I’m not saying fire cjh. I’m saying everyone so distraught over JA fails to remember that huepals strength is taking what he has and getting the best out of them.

Also cjh is not above criticism. He has miscalculated some qbs like a Milton and Nico. But you know what? He still won.

I don’t know why some folks can’t see this is me giving props to our coach bc he’s awesome. He can be awesome while still needing to improve.

“hOw DArE u TaLk bAd aBoUt hYpEAlllll!!!- wHo hAvE yOu EValuAtEd!!???!”
 
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Volanta said:
I agree. I think for the situation we were put in he did great. Although I wish he would be more aggressive in the portal period and get better WRs. No excuse for that.
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Most of you wrongly judge modern recruiting by the old rules.

The days of a coach being a “great recruiter” are diminishing…if they haven’t already disappeared completely.

It’s all about the size of the bag these days.
 
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I want dispute the OP's original assessment. He could very well throw for 4,000 yards here. I only concern is that he's going to throw 40 interceptions in the process. If he throws a hundred touchdowns in the process I'll let it slide
 
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