Hugh Freeze mega thread and poll [merged]

Do you want Tennessee to hire Hugh Freeze?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,219 77.4%

  • No

    Votes: 360 22.9%
  • Total voters
    1,574
#3,703
#3,703
CountVolcula said:
NCAA issues. Its Fulmer!

Why?

Lets go back to 2004 and the recruitment of Michael Oher. Oher was a big target for Fulmer and Tennessee. Back then, Fulmer pulled anyone he wanted out of Tennessee.

Freeze was the HC at Briarcrest, where Oher played. Regardless of what you saw in the movie, The Blind Side, Oher was already an established football player that didnt need to be taught by Leigh Anne Touhy how to block.

Now, it is understood that Freeze has always wanted to coach at Tennessee.

Now the nexr is pure speculation on my part. Lets say Freeze approaches Fulmer with the option of " I get hired, you get Oher"? Fulmer refuses because he knows it could be a possible recruiting violation

Enter the Touhy's. They are both boosters for Ole Miss and they hate Tennessee. They are also Oher's adoptive parents. Oher ends up at Ole Miss and Freeze ends up getting hired at Ole Miss. Hence, my speculation in the paragraph above

If that were the case, then there is no way Fulmer would hire him

IMO, Fulmer would have to go as well for Freeze to be hired at UT
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At this point Fulmer's going to do what the money tells him to do, thus keeping his job.
 
#3,706
#3,706
So there are people wanting to use the investigation for Pruitt be fired, yet they are clamoring for Freeze to be hired?
 
#3,712
#3,712
CountVolcula said:
NCAA issues. Its Fulmer!

Why?

Lets go back to 2004 and the recruitment of Michael Oher. Oher was a big target for Fulmer and Tennessee. Back then, Fulmer pulled anyone he wanted out of Tennessee.

Freeze was the HC at Briarcrest, where Oher played. Regardless of what you saw in the movie, The Blind Side, Oher was already an established football player that didnt need to be taught by Leigh Anne Touhy how to block.

Now, it is understood that Freeze has always wanted to coach at Tennessee.

Now the nexr is pure speculation on my part. Lets say Freeze approaches Fulmer with the option of " I get hired, you get Oher"? Fulmer refuses because he knows it could be a possible recruiting violation

Enter the Touhy's. They are both boosters for Ole Miss and they hate Tennessee. They are also Oher's adoptive parents. Oher ends up at Ole Miss and Freeze ends up getting hired at Ole Miss. Hence, my speculation in the paragraph above

If that were the case, then there is no way Fulmer would hire him

IMO, Fulmer would have to go as well for Freeze to be hired at UT
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Posting this everywhere huh?
 
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#3,714
CountVolcula said:
NCAA issues. Its Fulmer!

Why?

Lets go back to 2004 and the recruitment of Michael Oher. Oher was a big target for Fulmer and Tennessee. Back then, Fulmer pulled anyone he wanted out of Tennessee.

Freeze was the HC at Briarcrest, where Oher played. Regardless of what you saw in the movie, The Blind Side, Oher was already an established football player that didnt need to be taught by Leigh Anne Touhy how to block.

Now, it is understood that Freeze has always wanted to coach at Tennessee.

Now the nexr is pure speculation on my part. Lets say Freeze approaches Fulmer with the option of " I get hired, you get Oher"? Fulmer refuses because he knows it could be a possible recruiting violation

Enter the Touhy's. They are both boosters for Ole Miss and they hate Tennessee. They are also Oher's adoptive parents. Oher ends up at Ole Miss and Freeze ends up getting hired at Ole Miss. Hence, my speculation in the paragraph above

If that were the case, then there is no way Fulmer would hire him

IMO, Fulmer would have to go as well for Freeze to be hired at UT
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Freeze has always wanted the Tennessee job....lol.
 
#3,715
#3,715
DeerPark12 said:
...Four years ago, the SEC presidents voted to approve a rule where if a school wanted to hire a coach in any sport that had received a show cause or had been found to have committed NCAA Level 1 violations, the school would have to apply to the Commissioner for approval to hire that person...
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DP I went back and grabbed this comment bc it just now hit me....Dan Mullen is now subject to this rule.

It's only a one year show cause, but from your wording it sounds like if they've ever had a show cause at all they would be subject to it.

That's an interesting development to me. Not that another SEC would hire Mullen away from FL, but he's about to jump ship and will likely want to come back to the SEC eventually.
 
#3,717
#3,717
Liberty fan stopping by. Something that hasn’t been mentioned is the buyout for Freeze at Liberty is reportedly 10-12 million. For Pruitt and staff to be let go and to buyout Freeze you’re looking at 25 million plus. TN just finished paying Butch off. I don’t see that happening. Everyone at TN thinks it’s a done deal if offered, but Freeze has a good thing going at Liberty. Makes 3 million a year, not nearly the pressure of an SEC job and his family loves it in Lynchburg. He recently said he misses some things about coaching in the SEC, but there’s just as much that he doesn’t miss.
 
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Cinciflame said:
Liberty fan stopping by. Something that hasn’t been mentioned is the buyout for Freeze at Liberty is reportedly 10-12 million. For Pruitt and staff to be let go and to buyout Freeze you’re looking at 25 million plus. TN just finished paying Butch off. I don’t see that happening. Everyone at TN thinks it’s a done deal if offered, but Freeze has a good thing going at Liberty. Makes 3 million a year, not nearly the pressure of an SEC job and his family loves it in Lynchburg. He recently said he misses some things about coaching in the SEC, but there’s just as much that he doesn’t miss.
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I think every good coach wants a challenge. I also think every good coach that failed or “had problems” wants to redeem themselves.

Freeze has proven he can build programs. He has proven he can win. He has also proven he can win big and beat really good teams.

As a coach I highly doubt he wants to sit at Liberty (no offense.....but it is what it is) when he has already proven just about everything he can there.

He wants a big time job. He also wants to redeem himself and try to keep it going this time.

Just my opinion.
 
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Cinciflame said:
Liberty fan stopping by. Something that hasn’t been mentioned is the buyout for Freeze at Liberty is reportedly 10-12 million. For Pruitt and staff to be let go and to buyout Freeze you’re looking at 25 million plus. TN just finished paying Butch off. I don’t see that happening. Everyone at TN thinks it’s a done deal if offered, but Freeze has a good thing going at Liberty. Makes 3 million a year, not nearly the pressure of an SEC job and his family loves it in Lynchburg. He recently said he misses some things about coaching in the SEC, but there’s just as much that he doesn’t miss.
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Art Briles is a hell of a coach.
 
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#3,723
This is EXACTLY the type of self handcuffing that has gotten UT in this situation back when Kiffin left. If decision makers at UT are basing decisions off of what may be considered "a bad look"... they shouldn't be in that position in the first place. Period. What EVERYONE needs to understand is that you make decisions based on what's BEST for the program. NOT what's best for "perception." SCREW perception. You make a hire to WIN!!! Even if that hire has a questionable past. Winning will solve EVERYTHING! And who cares what other "programs" or the "media" thinks? WHO. CARES? Do what's best for UT moving forward or GTFO!
 
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#3,724
jeff1vol said:
This is EXACTLY the type of self handcuffing that has gotten UT in this situation back when Kiffin left. If decision makers at UT are basing decisions off of what may be considered "a bad look"... they shouldn't be in that position in the first place. Period. What EVERYONE needs to understand is that you make decisions based on what's BEST for the program. NOT what's best for "perception." SCREW perception. You make a hire to WIN!!! Even if that hire has a questionable past. Winning will solve EVERYTHING! And who cares what other "programs" or the "media" thinks? WHO. CARES? Do what's best for UT moving forward or GTFO!
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As a follow up... Auburn hired BP after his dealings here. All they got was something UT has NEVER done... a Final Four. Oh... those poor Aubbies.
 
#3,725
#3,725
It's silly. Many of these self righteous posters would be celebrating if by some miracle we ever make it back to Atlanta with Freeze at the helm yet they feign disdain at the thought of him ever coaching at UT. There is a good chance our resident good ol boy may have cheated and we still suck.
 
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