Hendrix opens up about transfer

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sjt18 said:
Absolutely UNTRUE. The rub and conflict comes because so many refuse to question ANYTHING. So when I praise the staff... some don't notice and none are "offended". But when I criticize them, the mob attacks and we end up with lots of posts.

I don't think I have enough info to have many answers. You can look through my posts and there have been only a few times where I've said "I think they should...."

I DO have enough info to have some questions though... and for many that's just way out of bounds.

You seem to be a reasonable guy most of the time. So take a look at some of the posts in this very thread. Some posters just absolutely cannot ask themselves "Does Hendrix's complaints have any merit?" For too many it MUST be because of some flaw HE has... because the staff just can't bear any blame.

So when I differ with those types of people, I am accused of being too critical of the coaches for simply saying something isn't good and suggesting that part of the problem could be with the coaches.
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Just whimper that malarky to Drill Instructor McLean. To openly question is oftentimes to complain. I won't bother to waste my time examining your past posts, but I do recognize your moniker as one of a chronic complainer...err...questioner. IE: It's fine to question authority, but in doing so, you danged well better have researched what you're questioning. My old DI would've had you on latrine duty from day one. You would've dropped out just like Hendrix, Helms and Scott. :rtfm:
 
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sjt18 said:
Absolutely UNTRUE. The rub and conflict comes because so many refuse to question ANYTHING. So when I praise the staff... some don't notice and none are "offended". But when I criticize them, the mob attacks and we end up with lots of posts.

I don't think I have enough info to have many answers. You can look through my posts and there have been only a few times where I've said "I think they should...."

I DO have enough info to have some questions though... and for many that's just way out of bounds.

You seem to be a reasonable guy most of the time. So take a look at some of the posts in this very thread. Some posters just absolutely cannot ask themselves "Does Hendrix's complaints have any merit?" For too many it MUST be because of some flaw HE has... because the staff just can't bear any blame.

So when I differ with those types of people, I am accused of being too critical of the coaches for simply saying something isn't good and suggesting that part of the problem could be with the coaches.
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Again, didn't he come back and say "don't believe everything you read"?
 
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sjt18 said:
Absolutely UNTRUE. The rub and conflict comes because so many refuse to question ANYTHING. So when I praise the staff... some don't notice and none are "offended". But when I criticize them, the mob attacks and we end up with lots of posts.

I don't think I have enough info to have many answers. You can look through my posts and there have been only a few times where I've said "I think they should...."

I DO have enough info to have some questions though... and for many that's just way out of bounds.

You seem to be a reasonable guy most of the time. So take a look at some of the posts in this very thread. Some posters just absolutely cannot ask themselves "Does Hendrix's complaints have any merit?" For too many it MUST be because of some flaw HE has... because the staff just can't bear any blame.

So when I differ with those types of people, I am accused of being too critical of the coaches for simply saying something isn't good and suggesting that part of the problem could be with the coaches.
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The only thing untrue is your entire statement. You constantly question every move made by the coaching staff. I don't need to re-post your statements. Anyone that regularly reads the board will come to that conclusion.
 
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sameolvol said:
Just whimper that malarky to Drill Instructor McLean. To openly question is oftentimes to complain. I won't bother to waste my time examining your past posts, but I do recognize your moniker as one of a chronic complainer...err...questioner. IE: It's fine to question authority, but in doing so, you danged well better have researched what you're questioning. My old DI would've had you on latrine duty from day one. You would've dropped out just like Hendrix, Helms and Scott. :rtfm:
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LOL@U. This isn't basic training... and as a former CO of a training company with about 20 DI's working for me... The Army does not want people who never question orders. In a line unit, Op Orders specifically have a section called "commander's intent" so that if things go crazy and the leaders become casualties... Private Beetle Bailey can adjust the plan and attempt to accomplish the mission.

We're a nation founded on the premise that authority SHOULD be questioned.... so if you want to broaden the discussion beyond UT football... you still lose.
 
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We fail to realize that even Pat Summit had to adjust to her players. Each one is different. You can yell and cuss at some and not so much with others. A good coach is going to find the best way to motivate each player.
 
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landscapingvol said:
The only thing untrue is your entire statement. You constantly question every move made by the coaching staff. I don't need to re-post your statements. Anyone that regularly reads the board will come to that conclusion.
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The bolded portion is purely false. Unless by "question" you mean look at them and either see them as praiseworthy or questionable. I have no more ability to dictate a "conclusion" to anyone who reads the board than you do to speak for everyone who "regularly reads the board."

I don't even have the means or information to question "every move" made by the staff.

You don't have to go too far to find me DEFENDING their decision on QB. I think they made the right decision with AJ even though that was painful and other coaches would have probably found a way around it.
 
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VOODOOVOL said:
Again, didn't he come back and say "don't believe everything you read"?
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He did. But neither of us know what he might have been talking about unless you've seen a context that I haven't. He bluntly said that he didn't like the way he was talked to and that it got worse. He could have been trying to walk that back or he may have had something else in mind.

Do you have the complete context or has he explained specifically what he was talking about?


FWIW, from what I have heard of Mizzou's staff, I hope he's not planning on going there and being coddled.
 
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sjt18 said:
The bolded portion is purely false. Unless by "question" you mean look at them and either see them as praiseworthy or questionable. I have no more ability to dictate a "conclusion" to anyone who reads the board than you do to speak for everyone who "regularly reads the board."

I don't even have the means or information to question "every move" made by the staff.

You don't have to go too far to find me DEFENDING their decision on QB. I think they made the right decision with AJ even though that was painful and other coaches would have probably found a way around it.
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You are either a compulsive liar or don't realize how whiny you come across, either answer means little to me. You are correct you don't have the "means" to question every move made by the staff but that hasn't stopped you yet.
 
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landscapingvol said:
You are either a compulsive liar or don't realize how whiny you come across, either answer means little to me.
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So... your perception of what someone writes and how makes them whiney or a compulsive liar? If I were inclined to... I could accuse those of you who deflect from the coaches at all costs of being (fill in the blank).

What specifically have I "lied" about? Disagreeing with YOU or the majority or whatever is NOT evidence of "lying".

You come much closer to lying by making an accusation and then proclaiming that you have no intentions of actually making sure it is true... which you did just a few posts ago.

You are correct you don't have the "means" to question every move made by the staff but that hasn't stopped you yet.
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And... that IS another lie. I HAVE NOT questioned every move made by the staff. I HAVE questioned everything I have heard... and most of the time APPROVED of what they did.

The apparent difference between us is that I don't approve BEFORE questioning or giving some thought.
 
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sjt18 said:
He did. But neither of us know what he might have been talking about unless you've seen a context that I haven't. He bluntly said that he didn't like the way he was talked to and that it got worse. He could have been trying to walk that back or he may have had something else in mind.

Do you have the complete context or has he explained specifically what he was talking about?


FWIW, from what I have heard of Mizzou's staff, I hope he's not planning on going there and being coddled.
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Do not know specifically. I don't know how he was talked to in private, but I do know I never heard any inordinate amount of cussing or any belittling during practice.
You played, I think, high school ball. DB? You had to have heard some cussing.
 
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sjt18 said:
So... your perception of what someone writes and how makes them whiney or a compulsive liar? If I were inclined to... I could accuse those of you who deflect from the coaches at all costs of being (fill in the blank).

What specifically have I "lied" about? Disagreeing with YOU or the majority or whatever is NOT evidence of "lying".

You come much closer to lying by making an accusation and then proclaiming that you have no intentions of actually making sure it is true... which you did just a few posts ago.


move made by the staff. I HAVE questioned everything I have heard... and most of the time APPROVED of what they did.

The apparent difference between us is that I don't approve BEFORE questioning or giving some thought.
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Your silly banter games are amusing. If you can't see the constant negativity and complaining in your posts, it is on you not anyone else to prove your intentions. Again, I will state this for you in pretty simple terms, you continually criticize and complain about coaching decisions or actions within the program. Simply because you see things differently and question decisions doesn't somehow make those views accurate or legitimate in any way. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, quite frankly yours sucks on 99.9% of all things UT. No the difference between you and me is that I have and currently am a coach, and give them the benefit of the doubt until given a reason not to support them.
 
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VOODOOVOL said:
Do not know specifically. I don't know how he was talked to in private, but I do know I never heard any inordinate amount of cussing or any belittling during practice.
You played, I think, high school ball. DB? You had to have heard some cussing.
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Still do. There is a difference between cursing and cursing at someone.

My HS coaches didn't curse much. They yelled a lot but seldom cursed. I was a TE... which in our O was basically a tackle with a number that started with 8.

One of the things I absolutely LOVE about Jones is his philosophy on "execution". Not many have said anything or possibly even noticed but he has said on more than a few occasions that execution was the key regardless of what system you run. My HS coach was the same way. We might not run a big playbook but we would run every play we ran very well... and consistently.

Sort of funny story. Our coach played and was an asst at our biggest rival. We ran the same O and even used the same names for plays. When we played them, he would often just yell the play in from the sideline. He didn't care if they knew what we were running... he was confident that we would out execute them. We almost always did.

The thing that I find most encouraging about Jones is the emphasis of execution over "scheme" or complexity. More like Cut and less like Fulmer. Instead of "throwing it all at them and seeing what sticks", Jones builds plays on top of foundational plays. If a base play is a inside zone then you add a PA off of that then a quick pass then a screen then a reverse then a bend back then a QB dive...

We ran the veer option (the school still does many years later). The base play was a FB, 3 gap, dive play. Then there was an option pitch off of that. Then there was a quick pass off of that. Then there were reverses and a drop back off of it.

FTR... you can feel free to use this as a justification for why it might take Jones longer to get great production or install his system when you think I've asked for too much too soon.:salute: But if I am right then there should be a big leap forward once system knowledge and execution really began to approach the goal.
 
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Smokeybluetick said:
Hard A$$ Coaches

Papa Bear Halis(sp)
Bear Bryant
Mike Ditka
Vince Lombardy
Barry Switzer
Nick Saban

all the good ones were hard a$$es , same with the players! I want the players that growl at the coach that "dog cusses"them and then goes and makes a play! Helm is homesick and has said nothing (Wolf) Scott knows he's been recruited over (Kamara) Hendricks is the only one with his feelings hurt (Barnett/Butcher). Sorry he didn't enjoy his time on the hill, I looked forward to seeing him develop. Best for him to decide now then after 2-3 years as a backup. Wish him well and hope Butch continues to give them hell! GO VOLS
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You can be an a-hole coach...if you can win. If you can't, you're Derek Dooley.

Let's see if the players stick behind these coaches if we lose to both Oklahoma and Florida early next year.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Your silly banter games are amusing.
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I agree. I enjoy it. That's why I do it.

If you can't see the constant negativity and complaining in your posts, it is on you not anyone else to prove your intentions.
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No. If you are going to make a (false) allegation then it is on YOU to prove it. I have demonstrated that your allegation was false and rather than at least being honest enough to drop it... you continue to push it.

Again, I will state this for you in pretty simple terms, you continually criticize and complain about coaching decisions or actions within the program.
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And you are still WRONG. I state displeasure at the things that are bad and pleasure at the things taht are good... what a novel concept, huh? But you and people like you only care about my pointing out the unpleasant things you can't seem to deal with... because you might, just might have to admit that the coaches bear blame.

Simply because you see things differently and question decisions doesn't somehow make those views accurate or legitimate in any way.
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Oh, do you own a mirror?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, quite frankly yours sucks on 99.9% of all things UT.
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Wait... so you really meant everyone except for me, right?

No the difference between you and me is that I have and currently am a coach, and give them the benefit of the doubt until given a reason not to support them.
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I don't care if you are the king of Persia.... that doesn't make you right. I hope that you, Coach, don't think that you cannot 100% support someone while criticizing them when they do something poorly.... If so, you are in NO position to question whether these kids leaving were too "soft".
 
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sjt18 said:
Still do. There is a difference between cursing and cursing at someone.

My HS coaches didn't curse much. They yelled a lot but seldom cursed. I was a TE... which in our O was basically a tackle with a number that started with 8.

One of the things I absolutely LOVE about Jones is his philosophy on "execution". Not many have said anything or possibly even noticed but he has said on more than a few occasions that execution was the key regardless of what system you run. My HS coach was the same way. We might not run a big playbook but we would run every play we ran very well... and consistently.

Sort of funny story. Our coach played and was an asst at our biggest rival. We ran the same O and even used the same names for plays. When we played them, he would often just yell the play in from the sideline. He didn't care if they knew what we were running... he was confident that we would out execute them. We almost always did.

The thing that I find most encouraging about Jones is the emphasis of execution over "scheme" or complexity. More like Cut and less like Fulmer. Instead of "throwing it all at them and seeing what sticks", Jones builds plays on top of foundational plays. If a base play is a inside zone then you add a PA off of that then a quick pass then a screen then a reverse then a bend back then a QB dive...

We ran the veer option (the school still does many years later). The base play was a FB, 3 gap, dive play. Then there was an option pitch off of that. Then there was a quick pass off of that. Then there were reverses and a drop back off of it.

FTR... you can feel free to use this as a justification for why it might take Jones longer to get great production or install his system when you think I've asked for too much too soon.:salute: But if I am right then there should be a big leap forward once system knowledge and execution really began to approach the goal.
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Never heard any cussing at players, other than get your ass in gear.
I keep hearing about him cussing over the microphone. It's not like Haslam Field is out in the country. Some reporter would have written it by now.
 
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SGMVols said:
You can be an a-hole coach...if you can win. If you can't, you're Derek Dooley.

Let's see if the players stick behind these coaches if we lose to both Oklahoma and Florida early next year.
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He didn't say a- hole coaches, he said hard ass coaches.
Big difference.
 
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sjt18 said:
LOL@U. This isn't basic training... and as a former CO of a training company with about 20 DI's working for me... The Army does not want people who never question orders. In a line unit, Op Orders specifically have a section called "commander's intent" so that if things go crazy and the leaders become casualties... Private Beetle Bailey can adjust the plan and attempt to accomplish the mission.

We're a nation founded on the premise that authority SHOULD be questioned.... so if you want to broaden the discussion beyond UT football... you still lose.
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Your statements connote dishonesty regarding your military experience. Unless you were just deballed through marriage, you're simply full of crap. The DI's I knew, and the ones who I still know at Ft. Jackson would laugh so hard at you, you'd be crying like a little girl. In basic training you don't question your DI! Afterward, you maintain the chain of command to question your superior officers. Twittering that crybaby drivel drove Hendrix's validity over the proverbial cliff. Had these three been as valuable to CBJ as is Pig or Marlin, he'd work at keeping them in the fold, and I promise you they'd still be there. They don't want to earn that big ol' orange T, then bye bye. Now, referring to football: As a Kingston Yellowjacket, I was part of three state championship football programs. Coach Plemmons was as hard on players, certainly me, as any coach I've seen, but we all knew who could handle the pressure and who would whimper and whine when true fortitude was needed. crying is always crying, faux brass. Commanded DI's...right.:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
so when UT players transfers, they are quitters who suck.


but when you all are begging for UAB and Nebraska transfers, you love them all

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And 95% have never played a down of football or been in the military and wouldn't have a clue as to what it takes. Yet here we are passing judgement on something that few have any real experience at. Walk a mile, walk a mile.
 
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